PAC 12 Thread v6.0

[mrwallace2ku]

Stanford plays in Seattle this year and the Huskies have a new OC (thank god).

your fucking disgusting.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

your fucking disgusting.

Canzano: Hawaii remains miffed at Oregon State over recruiting snafu

 

[socaljim242]

UCLA was killing it in recruiting for awhile. I don't know why they didn't get more wins ... that one is on Mora.

Well they would get studs but they wouldnt be distributed right. They wouldnt have a dominant D line but they would have one great lineman and one linebacker and a safety that were NFL caliber. Then the drop off was huge with the others so with a team like Washington where the other players might be pretty good and these would put them over the top with UCLA they wouldn't have the really good 3 star players playing great together. The same on Offense. They had two QBs go to the NFL (Hundly and Rosen) and wasted them. They would have one good back and one great O lineman and one WR and maybe a TE then trash everywhere else.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Well they would get studs but they wouldnt be distributed right. They wouldnt have a dominant D line but they would have one great lineman and one linebacker and a safety that were NFL caliber. Then the drop off was huge with the others so with a team like Washington where the other players might be pretty good and these would put them over the top with UCLA they wouldn't have the really good 3 star players playing great together. The same on Offense. They had two QBs go to the NFL (Hundly and Rosen) and wasted them. They would have one good back and one great O lineman and one WR and maybe a TE then trash everywhere else.

In Mora's first season they beat Nebraska at home. I was thinking after watching that game that they'd tear it up with Mora there. Apparently UCLA thought the same thing because they handed him a big fat contract extension.

 

[trojanfan12]

Ya but they aren't Chris Petersen .... the man who does the most with the least.

Until other schools have Stanfords admission requirements...Shaw does the most with the least.

 

[trojanfan12]

In Mora's first season they beat Nebraska at home. I was thinking after watching that game that they'd tear it up with Mora there. Apparently UCLA thought the same thing because they handed him a big fat contract extension.

Not sure what it is with them. Even when they make waht looks to be a good hire, it ends up not being a good hire after all.

I thought with Mora they at least had Pete Carroll lite.

Maybe Kelly will be different for them? I hope not. But maybe he will?

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Until other schools have Stanfords admission requirements...Shaw does the most with the least.

Stanford uses the NCAA minimum requirements for its athletes... no different from any other PAC school.

NCAA Academic Eligibility Requirements | Stanford Undergrad

 

[socaljim242]

Stanford uses the NCAA minimum requirements for its athletes... no different from any other PAC school.

NCAA Academic Eligibility Requirements | Stanford Undergrad

That's once you have been accepted to Stanford. Getting accepted is the hard part. I've personally known a few athletes who wanted to go to Stanford and they could have gone almost anywhere and they couldn't get into Stanford. There have been players who didn't qualify to get into USC but were able to get into Arizona. Maintaining a certain average at Stanford is harder than maintaining it at other PAC schools because you're taking big boy classes and you need more of a GPA in HS to get into Stanford. You have to be at a certain level academically for them to even offer you. Most schools offer a player and figure out if he can get in later.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

That's once you have been accepted to Stanford. Getting accepted is the hard part. I've personally known a few athletes who wanted to go to Stanford and they could have gone almost anywhere and they couldn't get into Stanford. There have been players who didn't qualify to get into USC but were able to get into Arizona. Maintaining a certain average at Stanford is harder than maintaining it at other PAC schools because you're taking big boy classes and you need more of a GPA in HS to get into Stanford. You have to be at a certain level academically for them to even offer you. Most schools offer a player and figure out if he can get in later.

I'm talking about the football players Shaw and his staff recruit. They don't have any different academic requirements than any other PAC school.

 

[socaljim242]

Stanford uses the NCAA minimum requirements for its athletes... no different from any other PAC school.

NCAA Academic Eligibility Requirements | Stanford Undergrad

From a blog -Question- Are Stanford athletic recruits smart?

Answer -
11-24-2007 at 9:50 am
I'm an athletic recruit and I'm valedictorian of my class. I know that to even get recruited any student needs to be OK'd by Stanford Admissions first. If the student has any C's, ACT's below 27, or any other unsatisfactory scores the coaches can't pursue that student as a recruit.

Also, if a student does get accepted to Stanford, they can still get their acceptance revoked. I know a football player who was a great student and third quarter he had a C in AP Calculus. Stanford sent him a letter saying that if that wasn't a B by the end of the year his acceptance would be rescinded.

So, yes. Stanford cares a lot about academics. The coaches were complaining to me when I was out there that it is a lot harder to recruit athletes for Stanford than it is to any of the Ivys. Kids who Stanford Admissions would not accept are getting recruited at Princeton and Harvard. One of the Stanford coaches, who used to work at Colombia, said that kids he used to recruit there would never meet the academic requirements here

 

[socaljim242]

I'm talking about the football players Shaw and his staff recruit. They don't have any different academic requirements than any other PAC school.

Yes they do. To get into Stanford is a whole different animal than getting into every other PAC school. The requirements you listed are for once you're in Stanford not to get into Stanford.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

From a blog -Question- Are Stanford athletic recruits smart?

Answer -
11-24-2007 at 9:50 am
I'm an athletic recruit and I'm valedictorian of my class. I know that to even get recruited any student needs to be OK'd by Stanford Admissions first. If the student has any C's, ACT's below 27, or any other unsatisfactory scores the coaches can't pursue that student as a recruit.

Also, if a student does get accepted to Stanford, they can still get their acceptance revoked. I know a football player who was a great student and third quarter he had a C in AP Calculus. Stanford sent him a letter saying that if that wasn't a B by the end of the year his acceptance would be rescinded.

So, yes. Stanford cares a lot about academics. The coaches were complaining to me when I was out there that it is a lot harder to recruit athletes for Stanford than it is to any of the Ivys. Kids who Stanford Admissions would not accept are getting recruited at Princeton and Harvard. One of the Stanford coaches, who used to work at Colombia, said that kids he used to recruit there would never meet the academic requirements here

Find me a player Shaw and his staff recruited that didn't meet the NCAA minimum academic requirements ... because that's all that's needed.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

NCAA Academic Eligibility Requirements | Stanford Undergrad

To be eligible to represent Stanford University in intercollegiate athletics competition, Stanford student-athletes must meet NCAA academic requirements and maintain satisfactory progress towards degrees as detailed below.

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE REQUIREMENTS AS A PDF

ALL STUDENTS - AT ALL TIMES*
*Requirements for Coterm Student-Athletes and Baseball/Football/Basketball Student-Athletes Below

• You must be enrolled in at least 12 units at all times – be sure to add classes before you drop
• Do not withdraw from a class or change the grading option without checking with your AARC advisor first
• Check with your AARC advisor when planning to repeat a class
• EACH quarter: you must pass 6 degree-applicable units
• CUMULATIVELY during the Fall, Winter, and Spring quarters: you must pass 27 degree-applicable units

What are degree-applicable units?

• Frosh & Sophomores: All units are degree-applicable
• Juniors & Seniors: degree-applicable units are a combination of GER, major, and elective classes. Contact your AARC advisor if you are not registered for at least 6 GER and major units. For other exceptions, please contact your AARC advisor.

REQUIRED PROGRESS BY YEAR
Note: Unit totals outlined below are "degree-applicable" units:

By the START of Sophomore Year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 1.8
• have completed 36 units

By the END of Sophomore Year you must:

• declare a major

By the START of Junior Year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 1.9
• have completed 72 units (40% of your total degree requirements)

By the START of Senior Year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 2.0
• have completed 108 units (60% of your degree requirements)

By the START of a 5th Year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 2.0
• have completed 144 units (80% of your degree requirements)

COTERMS - REQUIRED PROGRESS BY YEAR
In addition to the standard Sophomore year requirements listed above:

By the START of Junior Year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 1.9
• have completed 33% of your degree requirements

By the START of Senior Year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 2.0
• have completed 50% of your degree requirements

By the START of your Coterm year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 2.0
• have completed 67% of your degree requirements

SPORT-SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS
BASEBALL
Must be eligible in the Fall Quarter in order to be eligible in the Winter and Spring Quarters

FOOTBALL
Must pass 8 degree-applicable units in the Fall Quarter to be eligible for the next season (Fall Quarter of the following year)

MEN & WOMEN'S BASKETBALL
In order to participate in summer practices, must be enrolled in summer courses at Stanford or be on 4-year academic plan (25% of total degree requirements by the start of sophomore year, 50% total degree requirements by the start of junior year, 75% of total degree requirements by the start of senior year)

 

[socaljim242]

Find me a player Shaw and his staff recruited that didn't meet the NCAA minimum academic requirements ... because that's all that's needed.

Shaw can't go out and recruit a player unless his scores are good enough to get accepted. So if Shaws making visits and recruiting then that player has been pre approved by Stanford and as long as he stays at his current level he's cleared.

 

[SUBuddha]

Find me a player Shaw and his staff recruited that didn't meet the NCAA minimum academic requirements ... because that's all that's needed.

Are you really implying that any athlete who makes the minimums can get in? That is not even true at UW. Of course the athletes have to make the minimums, but the actual entrance requirements are higher than they NCAA minimums.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Shaw can't go out and recruit a player unless his scores are good enough to get accepted. So if Shaws making visits and recruiting then that player has been pre approved by Stanford and as long as he stays at his current level he's cleared.

Shaw is playing by the same rules as all other PAC schools ... minimum NCAA requirements. UW, Cal, Oregon, Washington St., etc ... all go by the same NCAA requirements.

 

[SUBuddha]

They have to make the minimums and then also clear the hurdle of the actual Stanford admissions. Athletes still have to make the grade, is it the same grade as a random joe, no but it is th same grade as any other person who applies and is considered elite in their field.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Are you really implying that any athlete who makes the minimums can get in? That is not even true at UW. Of course the athletes have to make the minimums, but the actual entrance requirements are higher than they NCAA minimums.

I'm implying what's on the Stanford website ... NCAA academic requirements.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

NCAA Academic Eligibility Requirements | Stanford Undergrad

To be eligible to represent Stanford University in intercollegiate athletics competition, Stanford student-athletes must meet NCAA academic requirements and maintain satisfactory progress towards degrees as detailed below.

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE REQUIREMENTS AS A PDF

ALL STUDENTS - AT ALL TIMES*
*Requirements for Coterm Student-Athletes and Baseball/Football/Basketball Student-Athletes Below

• You must be enrolled in at least 12 units at all times – be sure to add classes before you drop
• Do not withdraw from a class or change the grading option without checking with your AARC advisor first
• Check with your AARC advisor when planning to repeat a class
• EACH quarter: you must pass 6 degree-applicable units
• CUMULATIVELY during the Fall, Winter, and Spring quarters: you must pass 27 degree-applicable units

What are degree-applicable units?

• Frosh & Sophomores: All units are degree-applicable
• Juniors & Seniors: degree-applicable units are a combination of GER, major, and elective classes. Contact your AARC advisor if you are not registered for at least 6 GER and major units. For other exceptions, please contact your AARC advisor.

REQUIRED PROGRESS BY YEAR
Note: Unit totals outlined below are "degree-applicable" units:

By the START of Sophomore Year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 1.8
• have completed 36 units

By the END of Sophomore Year you must:

• declare a major

By the START of Junior Year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 1.9
• have completed 72 units (40% of your total degree requirements)

By the START of Senior Year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 2.0
• have completed 108 units (60% of your degree requirements)

By the START of a 5th Year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 2.0
• have completed 144 units (80% of your degree requirements)

COTERMS - REQUIRED PROGRESS BY YEAR
In addition to the standard Sophomore year requirements listed above:

By the START of Junior Year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 1.9
• have completed 33% of your degree requirements

By the START of Senior Year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 2.0
• have completed 50% of your degree requirements

By the START of your Coterm year you must:

• have a cumulative GPA of 2.0
• have completed 67% of your degree requirements

SPORT-SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS
BASEBALL
Must be eligible in the Fall Quarter in order to be eligible in the Winter and Spring Quarters

FOOTBALL
Must pass 8 degree-applicable units in the Fall Quarter to be eligible for the next season (Fall Quarter of the following year)

MEN & WOMEN'S BASKETBALL
In order to participate in summer practices, must be enrolled in summer courses at Stanford or be on 4-year academic plan (25% of total degree requirements by the start of sophomore year, 50% total degree requirements by the start of junior year, 75% of total degree requirements by the start of senior year)

Can anyone here read English ... because that's in fvcking ENGLISH. If I have to I'll use Google to translate it in Chinese or whatever your first language is.

 

[SUBuddha]

That is what is on their site, that is not what they adhere to. Every school is required to have those minimums, that does not mean that they cannot actually set the bar higher. Do you think UW only adheres to those minimums?