PAC 12 Thread v6.0

[fredsdeadfriend]

That individual team in the playoffs does represent the conference.

Not really. Especially when it's the only team in the conference even ranked.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

You set the rules I didn’t. You said the Big Ten West and their 75 division titles are better than the Pac 12. Am I suppose to take that remark as you are speaking of the West versus Arizona and Colorado not the entire Pac 12?

That's not what I said. So hard debating you when you either can't or refuse to follow along with what's actually being argued.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Minnesota fans think the Cheez-It Bowl is the playoff.

It is a step up from the Mayo Bowl

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

BigTen - Haven't had a winning decade vs. the PAC in 60+ years.

PAC ranks as the worst P5 conf over last 7 years, hands down.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Not really. Especially when it's the only team in the conference even ranked.

Would you consider the B10 better than the Pac 12 cause of bowl record?

 

[wazzu31]

The only reason it would have been nice to have Fleck in the PAC is to rack up easy wins against his hapless program.

Pretending a contract extension at a mid tier school means that coach is staying if given a job offer. This whole debate started with Franklin possibly leaving Penn State for SC. There isn’t a debate that Penn State is a more attractive job than Minnesota.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Would you consider the B10 better than the Pac 12 cause of bowl record?

No. Bowls are a dumb measurement

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

No. Bowls are a dumb measurement

So how do you measure who's a better conference?

 

[tabascojet]

So how do you measure who's a better conference?

History books....haven't you been paying attention

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Pretending a contract extension at a mid tier school means that coach is staying if given a job offer. This whole debate started with Franklin possibly leaving Penn State for SC. There isn’t a debate that Penn State is a more attractive job than Minnesota.

Minnesota's not mid tier

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

So how do you measure who's a better conference?

Well, since conferences are made up of several teams, best way would involve some kind of measurement that rates/ranks several teams.

 

[wazzu31]

Minnesota's not mid tier

Remember, this is a football thread not hockey.

 

[wazzu31]

History books....haven't you been paying attention

Army, Navy, Notre Dame and Nebraska in the final 4 this year..book it. I’d say Michigan but no one likes Michigan.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

History books....haven't you been paying attention

History is frowned on

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Well, since conferences are made up of several teams, best way would involve some kind of measurement that rates/ranks several teams.

Why just several and not the entire conference? Cherry picking a couple teams doesn't measure an entire conference.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Why just several and not the entire conference? Cherry picking a couple teams doesn't measure an entire conference.

I'd prefer a rating system that measures entire conferences. But at the same time very few care whether Rutgers rates better than Arizona or Vandy.

So for people like that, measuring how many Top 25 teams a conference produces seems best.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

I'd prefer a rating system that measures entire conferences. But at the same time very few care whether Rutgers rates better than Arizona or Vandy.

So for people like that, measuring how many Top 25 teams a conference produces seems best.

The bottom of the top 25 no one really cares about. You could probably take the 35th ranked team and the 25th ranked team and there's really no difference. Bowl victories and championships tells us more about a conference.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

PAC ranks as the worst P5 conf over last 7 years, hands down.

If the PAC is the worst conference, but the B1G has a losing record to them in every decade, what does that make the B1G?

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

If the PAC is the worst conference, but the B1G has a losing record to them in every decade, what does that make the B1G?

If Oregon only wins 25% of it's games vs the Gophers, what does that say about them?

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

The bottom of the top 25 no one really cares about. You could probably take the 35th ranked team and the 25th ranked team and there's really no difference. Bowl victories and championships tells us more about a conference.

So bottom half of the Top 25 means nothing yet bowl records that teams with losing records can play in does? LOL