PAC 12 Thread v6.0

[CorpRebel]

The Swann thing has multiple factors involved.

Yes, it's got a lot to do with USCs struggles with its FB program, but it also has to do with the ridiculous "payola for admission to the school" scandal via fake athletic scholarships to get rich kids admitted that occurred under his watch.

So it's another full house cleaning for the USC athletic dept.

Helton is done for sure now no matter what their final record and bowl is.

The AD job should be filled by next month and a final list of coach candidates vetted and ready to go by Nov. They'll have to get it done before the early LOI in Dec. to give him some time to attempt some flips.

Now there has been a lot of rumors that Urban will end up at USC, but I'm not entirely buying that and call it mostly wishful thinking from the national media that slobs on USCs knob 24/7 and egomaniac rich boosters. If USC hires Meyer, it would be one of the worst sell your soul moments in modern NCAA history for USC.

I'm sure the new AD will be looking for a bigtime hire and who will immediately attempt a raid on the top PAC classes to get the dick swinging power party started.

Oregon has probably benefitted the most the past couple years from the dysfunction at UCLA and USC when it comes to west coast recruiting. UW has landed some as well.

Whoever USC brings in will be under orders to stop the recruiting bleeding as priority 1 which means they be bringing in NFL and NCAA guys who can get it done with recruiting.

Generally, I tend to agree with your assessment. I took one of your paragraphs out and bolded the last sentence:

"Now there has been a lot of rumors that Urban will end up at USC, but I'm not entirely buying that and call it mostly wishful thinking from the national media that slobs on USCs knob 24/7 and egomaniac rich boosters. If USC hires Meyer, it would be one of the worst sell your soul moments in modern NCAA history for USC."

"Sell Your Soul", indeed! As a USC grad (1979), it bothers me that they would even consider Urban Meyer. USC does NOT need anymore distractions... they have enough on their plate as it is. SHEESH!

 

[socaljim242]

The Swann thing has multiple factors involved.

Yes, it's got a lot to do with USCs struggles with its FB program, but it also has to do with the ridiculous "payola for admission to the school" scandal via fake athletic scholarships to get rich kids admitted that occurred under his watch.

So it's another full house cleaning for the USC athletic dept.

Helton is done for sure now no matter what their final record and bowl is.

The AD job should be filled by next month and a final list of coach candidates vetted and ready to go by Nov. They'll have to get it done before the early LOI in Dec. to give him some time to attempt some flips.

Now there has been a lot of rumors that Urban will end up at USC, but I'm not entirely buying that and call it mostly wishful thinking from the national media that slobs on USCs knob 24/7 and egomaniac rich boosters. If USC hires Meyer, it would be one of the worst sell your soul moments in modern NCAA history for USC.

I'm sure the new AD will be looking for a bigtime hire and who will immediately attempt a raid on the top PAC classes to get the dick swinging power party started.

Oregon has probably benefitted the most the past couple years from the dysfunction at UCLA and USC when it comes to west coast recruiting. UW has landed some as well.

Whoever USC brings in will be under orders to stop the recruiting bleeding as priority 1 which means they be bringing in NFL and NCAA guys who can get it done with recruiting.

The new President has been making changes for months now. She's just getting around to the athletic Dept. It doesn't have as much to do with the admissions scandal as you guys are thinking. It didn't help but he was going to be gone even if that never happened. It took sometime to get the main donors on board and to buy out Swan to where he would go quietly. While he's had his shortcomings as a coach Clay Helton has done nothing wrong to embarrass the school and he's someone everyone likes as a person. Now he might not be the next Ads choice to head the football program but it wont be because of any shady business.

 

[wazzu31]

"Sell Your Soul", indeed! As a USC grad (1979), it bothers me that they would even consider Urban Meyer. USC does NOT need anymore distractions... they have enough on their plate as it is. SHEESH!

But souls are for losers.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

UCLA apparently offering season ticket holders free tickets

 

[AlaskaGuy]

SportsPac12: week-3-power-rankings

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Pac-12 power rankings 9/10: big changes just two weeks into the season

 

[Shaggy]

@Shaggy

Since Auburn owns the PAC we are claiming this thread as our new team bd. I'm going to need mod powers to manage the riff raff.

Thank you

Pfff, sure Wild, sure!

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Picking the Pac, Week 3

 

[socaljim242]

Overreaction Monday: Kedon Slovis Will Lead USC To Pac-12 Title

 

[AlaskaGuy]

USC WR Devon Williams enters NCAA Transfer Portal

 

[PSUTE]

Picking the Pac, Week 3

Idaho State @ Utah, Utah -36.5
Idaho State isn’t typically one of the stronger teams in the Big Sky conference. They lost by 22 last year to a poor Cal team. The question is whether Utah has enough gas in the offensive tank to beat anybody by more than 5 TDs. Here’s guessing they do.

Utah 48 - Idaho State 7

This is where knowing history helps. Idaho State was Whittingham's first coaching job. He'll put in the cheerleaders before rolling up the score...

 

[socaljim242]

USC WR Devon Williams enters NCAA Transfer Portal

Hit on the depth chart but they have 5 star freshmen WRs redshirting
59 team pass completions in two games and Devon Williams has one reception.
Vaughns-16
Amon-Ra- 13
Pittman- 12

 

[AlaskaGuy]

NCAA threatens to boot the whole state of California if bill becomes law - FootballScoop

 

[Ickey Shuffle]

Picking the Pac, Week 3

Hawaii @ Washington, UW -21.5
Perhaps Cal exposed a bit of a weak spot in UW’s run defense. If that’s the case, Hawaii is not well-equipped to take advantage of it. Every week makes it clearer that the Husky receiver corps can dominate less physical secondaries and struggles against more physical ones; this game should present the former. Hawaii deserves credit for putting two wins in the books against Pac-12 teams, but they were against the two weakest opponents, and they’ll be getting a motivated version of one of the better teams in the conference this week.

UW 45 – Hawaii 17

Hahahahahahahahaha.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

UW 45 – Hawaii 17

 

[Ickey Shuffle]

I know that's a homer site, but yikes.

 

[RegentDenali]

Not really. The Hawaii defense is going to get blasted this game. While the run and shoot is hard to game plan for, the huskies are probably one of the most adaptable defenses in the PAC with all the exotic looks they can throw at offenses. I watched the Hawaii Beavs game in person and way too many times, Cole McDonald was like a statue back there waiting for a receiver to get open. He's gonna get pressured into way to many bad throws and the INT potential will be high.

I wouldn't flat out say the huskies beat the spread, but I think we win this one comfortably. Like 14 to 17+ points at least.

 

[RegentDenali]

UW DC and DB coach Lake on the issues trying to game plan against Hawaii's run and shoot offense:

Hawaii's run and shoot. It's usually played with four receivers, but the unique part of the offense is the way the receivers adjust on the fly to what they see from the defense.

Run and Shoot vs Leach style Air Raid

"This offense is completely unique. We haven't seen it since we've been here. This is the old-school run-and-shoot offense, the Houston Oilers, Warren Moon, back in the day...this is an explosive offense. They've played two Pac-12 teams and scored a bunch of points. The quarterback's got a big arm, they have receivers that come off the line fast. This is a completely different animal that we have not faced, and it's going to be an extreme challenge for our defense."

How to prep for it:

"The challenge these guys present is that they also run the football. If you think you're just going to drop everybody and take away all their deep shots, then they are going to run the ball. They've run the ball very, very well those first two games. This is a completely different scheme that we're seeing this week. Obviously it works. 2-0 against the Pac-12 right now. We have a difficult task at hand."

If receivers are making reads on the offense, how does the DBs deal with it:

"They route-adjust, they will play opposite of what you're doing. You're playing inside? They'll break outside. It's not just a designed route and they have to run the route right into the coverage. You play deep? They're going to go short. You play short, they're going deep. It's going to be a back-and-forth of us disguising things and trying to trick them a little bit. At the same time we've got to make plays and they've got to try and make plays. It's going to be a fun matchup to watch."

 

[AlaskaGuy]

UW DC and DB coach Lake on the issues trying to game plan against Hawaii's run and shoot offense:

Hawaii's run and shoot. It's usually played with four receivers, but the unique part of the offense is the way the receivers adjust on the fly to what they see from the defense.

Run and Shoot vs Leach style Air Raid

"This offense is completely unique. We haven't seen it since we've been here. This is the old-school run-and-shoot offense, the Houston Oilers, Warren Moon, back in the day...this is an explosive offense. They've played two Pac-12 teams and scored a bunch of points. The quarterback's got a big arm, they have receivers that come off the line fast. This is a completely different animal that we have not faced, and it's going to be an extreme challenge for our defense."

How to prep for it:

"The challenge these guys present is that they also run the football. If you think you're just going to drop everybody and take away all their deep shots, then they are going to run the ball. They've run the ball very, very well those first two games. This is a completely different scheme that we're seeing this week. Obviously it works. 2-0 against the Pac-12 right now. We have a difficult task at hand."

If receivers are making reads on the offense, how does the DBs deal with it:

"They route-adjust, they will play opposite of what you're doing. You're playing inside? They'll break outside. It's not just a designed route and they have to run the route right into the coverage. You play deep? They're going to go short. You play short, they're going deep. It's going to be a back-and-forth of us disguising things and trying to trick them a little bit. At the same time we've got to make plays and they've got to try and make plays. It's going to be a fun matchup to watch."

Zona managed to get four picks off the Hawaii QB so hopefully UW can do the same.

 

[trojanfan12]

UW DC and DB coach Lake on the issues trying to game plan against Hawaii's run and shoot offense:

Hawaii's run and shoot. It's usually played with four receivers, but the unique part of the offense is the way the receivers adjust on the fly to what they see from the defense.

Run and Shoot vs Leach style Air Raid

"This offense is completely unique. We haven't seen it since we've been here. This is the old-school run-and-shoot offense, the Houston Oilers, Warren Moon, back in the day...this is an explosive offense. They've played two Pac-12 teams and scored a bunch of points. The quarterback's got a big arm, they have receivers that come off the line fast. This is a completely different animal that we have not faced, and it's going to be an extreme challenge for our defense."

How to prep for it:

"The challenge these guys present is that they also run the football. If you think you're just going to drop everybody and take away all their deep shots, then they are going to run the ball. They've run the ball very, very well those first two games. This is a completely different scheme that we're seeing this week. Obviously it works. 2-0 against the Pac-12 right now. We have a difficult task at hand."

If receivers are making reads on the offense, how does the DBs deal with it:

"They route-adjust, they will play opposite of what you're doing. You're playing inside? They'll break outside. It's not just a designed route and they have to run the route right into the coverage. You play deep? They're going to go short. You play short, they're going deep. It's going to be a back-and-forth of us disguising things and trying to trick them a little bit. At the same time we've got to make plays and they've got to try and make plays. It's going to be a fun matchup to watch."

That's what gives teams that run these kinds of offenses a chance against far more talented teams.

It's like playing Army. You have to prepare for an offense that your players have likely never seen in their lives (and even some of the coaches) and will likely never see again. You have to play a completely different style of defense and have a week to prepare.

It'll likely be a fairly close game for awhile, but your Huskies should eventually win fairly comfortably.