Our QB Situation

[djm]

 

[Birds4life81]

I would have liked to see Bradford play through that injury. Other qbs have, Matt Stafford comes to mind.

He looked the best he has in any 1st quarter yesterday. He made a play out side the pocket for a touchdown early in the game. Every week he does something else to show that's he's a bit more recovered from that injury and a bit more comfortable in the offense.

I hope he's not out long. Watching a game from the sideline might even help him ala Nick Foles in 2013.

Play through a grade 2 AC joint sprain and concussion?

 

[L.Freamon]

I think enut has a concussion.

 

[eaglesnut]

Play through a grade 2 AC joint sprain and concussion?

It was his non throwing shoulder. I'll dig a little and see if I can find what Matt Stafford played through when he led his team to a comeback victory with one arm. I think Luck did something similar too. Bradford is playing for a pay day and needs to make believers out of his teammates. That's a way to do it. Missed opportunity to take another step. He was looking good before the injury.

 

[Rey]

It looks like the Rams are done with Foles, but are still on the hook for his 2016 base Salary of 1.75 unless they can find a trade partner. How about he take him back in trade and save them the 1.75 if they give us back our 2nd rounder?

 

[old duke]

It looks like the Rams are done with Foles, but are still on the hook for his 2016 base Salary of 1.75 unless they can find a trade partner. How about he take him back in trade and save them the 1.75 if they give us back our 2nd rounder?

Wishful thinking Rey. He will probably go to KC and reunite with Andy. The Rams aren't giving us that pick back. The other shame is that we can't get that back, neither the 4th round pick that the Rams would give us if Bradford didn't play 50% of the games.

 

[deerpathdave]

Foles contract paid him a guaranteed $6M this year and another $1.75M guaranteed next year. And if they keep him they have to pay him another $6M early in the league year. So they probably cut him and pay him the $1.75M and he ends up getting $8M for the eight games.

Bradford's contract is a straight $13M for the year. Assuming he misses the next three games and then finishes the year, he will get a Million per game....same as Foles. Seems like financially it may be a wash between these two contracts...unfortunately, so far performance wise its been pretty poor for both although Bradford has not been benched and has a higher QBR by 7 points.

 

[ctc]

Foles contract paid him a guaranteed $6M this year and another $1.75M guaranteed next year. And if they keep him they have to pay him another $6M early in the league year. So they probably cut him and pay him the $1.75M and he ends up getting $8M for the eight games.

Bradford's contract is a straight $13M for the year. Assuming he misses the next three games and then finishes the year, he will get a Million per game....same as Foles. Seems like financially it may be a wash between these two contracts...unfortunately, so far performance wise its been pretty poor for both although Bradford has not been benched and has a higher QBR by 7 points.

Bradford's the 29th rated QB in the league whoooppie! In a QB friendly system! We gave up a second-rounder for that 'improvement'.

What was Foles worst rating in the system?

We've got the 30th ranked offence in the league. For a supposed offensive innovator that is beyond embarrassing. What happened to all the offensive talent on the team?

 

[deerpathdave]

Bradford's the 29th rated QB in the league whoooppie! In a QB friendly system! We gave up a second-rounder for that 'improvement'.

What was Foles worst rating in the system?

Foles 2014 QB rating was 81.4. Bradford's this year so far is 82.4. A difference so small as to be pretty much irrelevant, but it is slightly better. And Foles had a Maclin to work with. And Bradford was never benched in St. Louis, so it does seem fair to say that the Eagles got the better QB out of the deal. Enough to warrant the 2nd Round pick? At this point no, but let's review that at the end of the season. And what is really magical about a 2nd round pick? Most of them turn out to be nothing special anyways.

 

[ctc]

Foles 2014 QB rating was 81.4. Bradford's this year so far is 82.4. A difference so small as to be pretty much irrelevant, but it is slightly better. And Foles had a Maclin to work with. And Bradford was never benched in St. Louis, so it does seem fair to say that the Eagles got the better QB out of the deal. Enough to warrant the 2nd Round pick? At this point no, but let's review that at the end of the season. And what is really magical about a 2nd round pick? Most of them turn out to be nothing special anyways.

bradford's record says we didn't get the better of the deal. His record is worse than foles's.

A second round pick isn't really worth much? You're not worth taking seriously are you.

 

[old duke]

The Eagles have traditionally picked some good players in the 2nd, ala Jordan Matthews, DeSean Jackson,etc.
Don't remind me of Jaicquan(sp?) Jarrett though. Ugh!

 

[Rey]

Bradford's play was not worth the trade ... heck, he's not likely to even be here next season. Draft picks are the easiest way to make your team better. Sure some may not pan out, but they are valuable, especially early rounders. I do get taking the chance on making the trade ... Chip was proven correct that Foles was vastly over rated, but Bradford hasn't shown any better and we're down the draft pick ... so it was us who got the crap end of the stick on the deal ... at least till now; still some season left for Bradford to turn it around. I'm just not holding my breath.

 

[Iggloo]

It was a gamble that failed. The odds of it working were never good.

 

[deerpathdave]

bradford's record says we didn't get the better of the deal. His record is worse than foles's.

A second round pick isn't really worth much? You're not worth taking seriously are you.

Huh? Both teams are 4-5 this year.

Go look at an old NFL Draft and the players taken in the 2nd round. You may recognize about one quarter of the names as turning into anything other than journeyman players. Bradford looks like a missed bet at this point, but its not like they gave up alot for him. Reasonable risk.

 

[ctc]

Huh? Both teams are 4-5 this year.

Go look at an old NFL Draft and the players taken in the 2nd round. You may recognize about one quarter of the names as turning into anything other than journeyman players. Bradford looks like a missed bet at this point, but its not like they gave up alot for him. Reasonable risk.

Foles record in the offense is miles better than bradford.

Given the lack of depth in this team they need every pick they can get. Or we could sign a few more journeyman FA to play OL for the next qb. Let him get smoked too.

 

[deerpathdave]

Foles record in the offense is miles better than bradford.

Given the lack of depth in this team they need every pick they can get. Or we could sign a few more journeyman FA to play OL for the next qb. Let him get smoked too.

So you contradict yourself. First you say they play in the same offense...then you say the OL is worse. So by your own admission it makes no sense to make this comparison. Foles was only better in this offense two years ago when they started the same OL for all 16 games.

 

[ctc]

So you contradict yourself. First you say they play in the same offense...then you say the OL is worse. So by your own admission it makes no sense to make this comparison. Foles was only better in this offense two years ago when they started the same OL for all 16 games.

That you think the offence is different because the quality of the oline is different? You'll want to get a new dictionary.
Here's a little help.
2.assertion of the contrary or opposite; denial.
3.a statement or proposition that contradicts or denies another or itselfand is logically incongruous.
4.direct opposition between things compared; inconsistency.



The offensive line is worse you say? But you were telling us that Barbre and Tobin were better than Herreman and Mathis. That would be a contradiction.

 

[deerpathdave]

That you think the offence is different because the quality of the oline is different? You'll want to get a new dictionary.
Here's a little help.
2.assertion of the contrary or opposite; denial.
3.a statement or proposition that contradicts or denies another or itselfand is logically incongruous.
4.direct opposition between things compared; inconsistency.



The offensive line is worse you say? But you were telling us that Barbre and Tobin were better than Herreman and Mathis. That would be a contradiction.

The 2013 year was clearly a banner year because the line stayed healthy and together all year. Again you want to compare apples and oranges. The 2015 versions of Mathis and Herremans don't measure up at all to the 2015 versions.

 

[L.Freamon]

And what is really magical about a 2nd round pick? Most of them turn out to be nothing special anyways.

Holy shit that is a dumb statement.

 

[djm]

[QUOTE="deerpathdave, post: 7571000, member: 8527 And what is really magical about a 2nd round pick? Most of them turn out to be nothing special anyways.[/QUOTE]

Brian Dawkins!