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Other than Wisconsin is there ANY team in the B10

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Yeah, anyone who thinks Wisconsin's potential down fall lies in their front court doesn't watch them play


For the last two years their weakness has been stopping good guards who can drive the ball.


That's basically it.

We all have our own opinion on this one....I see Wisconsin as weak inside against BIG teams. In the Big 10, they are OK; in big time games, I'm not a fan. I liked Wisconsin a lot better last year. This year not so much.
 

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We all have our own opinion on this one....I see Wisconsin as weak inside against BIG teams. In the Big 10, they are OK; in big time games, I'm not a fan. I liked Wisconsin a lot better last year. This year not so much.

Yeah the key being my opinion is far more substantiated. You are basically just saying things for the sake of saying them...and have no support.

How can you like them better last year? They literally lost 1 player a 3 point specialist?
 

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We all have our own opinion on this one....I see Wisconsin as weak inside against BIG teams. In the Big 10, they are OK; in big time games, I'm not a fan. I liked Wisconsin a lot better last year. This year not so much.

Like Mr. Hockey said, this opinion doesn't make sense. We literally only lost one player off of last year's team, and he was a 6'3 three point specialist. If you liked us inside last year, you have to like us inside this year. If anything, we are much better because of the strides Frank and Nigel Hayes have made.

And FWIW, we are actually #1 in the country in defensive rebounding percentage (or at least we were before the Rutgers game). And I'm not sure what these big games you've seen where our frontcourt has gotten dominated defensively. Our only bad "big game" was against Duke. They scored 80. 24 of those came from forwards or centers. Duke's big guys average almost 45 PPG.

So yeah, I'm a little lost by your comments.
 

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Like Mr. Hockey said, this opinion doesn't make sense. We literally only lost one player off of last year's team, and he was a 6'3 three point specialist. If you liked us inside last year, you have to like us inside this year. If anything, we are much better because of the strides Frank and Nigel Hayes have made.

And FWIW, we are actually #1 in the country in defensive rebounding percentage (or at least we were before the Rutgers game). And I'm not sure what these big games you've seen where our frontcourt has gotten dominated defensively. Our only bad "big game" was against Duke. They scored 80. 24 of those came from forwards or centers. Duke's big guys average almost 45 PPG.

So yeah, I'm a little lost by your comments.

No, GUYS! It's because Frank Kaminsky is like Mike Miller, remember! How would you like it if Mike Miller were your starting center? Well that's what you've got, according to Runeman!
 

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Maryland, but I don't see any other teams even making the S16 as of now (that outlook could change in a week).

If I had to put the remaining B1G in order I'd run with:

3. Michigan State
4. Iowa
5. Ohio State
6. Indiana

(One of teams 3-6, I assume, will make the S16 but I wouldn't put money on any of them...not even sure if they'll all make the Tourney).

7. Purdue
8. Illinois
9. Michigan
10. Nebraska
11. Minnesota

(Just a mess of borderline NIT teams).

12. Penn State
13. Northwestern
14. Rutgers

(Just a mess).
 

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No, GUYS! It's because Frank Kaminsky is like Mike Miller, remember! How would you like it if Mike Miller were your starting center? Well that's what you've got, according to Runeman!


I also knew Arizona was not a top 10 team as well as you continued to tell the world how great they were...How did that turn out?

Kaminsky, like Miller will NOT be drafted as a center. He will go as a strong forward and not too strong as well. Kaminski does not have the strength or the quickness to deal with the bigger inside guys...Kaminski also can shoot from outside...same as Miller....dumb ass.
 

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I also knew Arizona was not a top 10 team as well as you continued to tell the world how great they were...How did that turn out?

Kaminsky, like Miller will NOT be drafted as a center. He will go as a strong forward and not too strong as well. Kaminski does not have the strength or the quickness to deal with the bigger inside guys...Kaminski also can shoot from outside...same as Miller....dumb ass.

:wtf:

Arizona will be making a deep run; E8-F4. When firing on all 8 cylinders that team can play with any team in the land. Zona had a couple close away losses, slips if you will, but I've also seen UK get real fortunate in a few games this year. Zona is legit.

As far as Lurch is concerned, well, there aren't many 7 footers that can both hit 40% from behind the arc and clean-up in the paint as well as he does. I'm not a fan either but credit where credit is due. The guy is an efficient monster.
 

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:wtf:

Arizona will be making a deep run; E8-F4. When firing on all 8 cylinders that team can play with any team in the land. Zona had a couple close away losses, slips if you will, but I've also seen UK get real fortunate in a few games this year. Zona is legit.

As far as Lurch is concerned, well, there aren't many 7 footers that can both hit 40% from behind the arc and clean-up in the paint as well as he does. I'm not a fan either but credit where credit is due. The guy is an efficient monster.

I agree that this year's Arizona's team is a contender; was not a believer all last year much to the dismay of the Zona fans. I like Kaminski as a player; just think the stronger guys will shove him around inside...same with Decker. That said, his ability to hit the short jumpers as well as the 3's make him a good choice for strong forward.
 

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I also knew Arizona was not a top 10 team as well as you continued to tell the world how great they were...How did that turn out?

Kaminsky, like Miller will NOT be drafted as a center. He will go as a strong forward and not too strong as well. Kaminski does not have the strength or the quickness to deal with the bigger inside guys...Kaminski also can shoot from outside...same as Miller....dumb ass.

WTF are you talking about? Are you an idiot? Mike Miller is a shooting GUARD, Frank Kaminsky is a 7 foot C/PF who can stretch and hit the 3. I can't believe a Florida fan would compare these players. Wow.

Just because they can both hit 3 pointers doesn't mean they are the same player, they don't even play the same position.
 

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WTF are you talking about? Are you an idiot? Mike Miller is a shooting GUARD, Frank Kaminsky is a 7 foot C/PF who can stretch and hit the 3. I can't believe a Florida fan would compare these players. Wow.

Just because they can both hit 3 pointers doesn't mean they are the same player, they don't even play the same position.

Hey...dumb fuck...check below...Small forward as listed from Cleveland's roster. Kaminsky is a tall(listed...not really 7") skinny guy who will be shooting 3's from the strong forward position. Anyone who thinks this guy can bang inside with the bigs is just kidding themselves.




18Miller, MikeSF346-82182/19/1980Florida
 

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Hey...dumb fuck...check below...Small forward as listed from Cleveland's roster. Kaminsky is a tall(listed...not really 7") skinny guy who will be shooting 3's from the strong forward position. Anyone who thinks this guy can bang inside with the bigs is just kidding themselves.




18Miller, MikeSF346-82182/19/1980Florida

Yeah and ESPN has him listed as a shooting guard.

Mike Miller Stats, News, Videos, Highlights, Pictures, Bio - Cleveland Cavaliers - ESPN

Either way you're doing mike Miller a great disservice by comparing him to Kaminsky. Miller is a better athlete, better ball handler, much quicker and better defensively guarding similar like players. I never said Kaminsky could bang down low, but he sure as hell is going to have to do that. Good luck having Kaminsky guard a 2/3 at the next level like Miller has done his ENTIRE career.
 

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I also knew Arizona was not a top 10 team as well as you continued to tell the world how great they were...How did that turn out?

Kaminsky, like Miller will NOT be drafted as a center. He will go as a strong forward and not too strong as well. Kaminski does not have the strength or the quickness to deal with the bigger inside guys...Kaminski also can shoot from outside...same as Miller....dumb ass.

We weren't a top 10 team? We were 1 point away from the Final Four without our starting POWER forward (see what I did there? I called it the correct position, instead of sounding like a moron who doesn't know anything about basketball by saying "strong" forward).

So we weren't a top 10 team last year, gotcha. And Frank Kaminsky plays basketball just like Mike Miller, gotcha again. You just know so much about basketball I can't stand it.
 

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We weren't a top 10 team? We were 1 point away from the Final Four without our starting POWER forward (see what I did there? I called it the correct position, instead of sounding like a moron who doesn't know anything about basketball by saying "strong" forward).

So we weren't a top 10 team last year, gotcha. And Frank Kaminsky plays basketball just like Mike Miller, gotcha again. You just know so much about basketball I can't stand it.


That';s why I finished at the top of last year's pick-em and you were almost the last place finisher. You are the person who doesn't know shit.....Anyone who's wife makes all the money and brags about it on here isn't much of a man. Maybe let your wife pick the games; obviously he has all the smarts; except in picking men. You are stupid and Arrogant. Go get a decent paying job and grow the fuck up.
 

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Never count out Izzo, especially if his Spartans make it to the NCAA tourney.
 

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That';s why I finished at the top of last year's pick-em and you were almost the last place finisher. You are the person who doesn't know shit.....Anyone who's wife makes all the money and brags about it on here isn't much of a man. Maybe let your wife pick the games; obviously he has all the smarts; except in picking men. You are stupid and Arrogant. Go get a decent paying job and grow the fuck up.

Haha, you are as hilariously predictable as I am, except you talk about the fact that my wife makes more money than me as if it's a bad thing. Literally every person on here would be happy if their wife's salary increased so that she made more than them. Know why? MORE MONEY, WAHOOO!!!! Anyone who would be upset about that is a misogynist like you. But keep bragging about that, big guy! Man, it's easy to tell you are from Florida.

Notice how nobody ever agrees with you about the thing we talk about in here, basketball? Maybe you should think about that before you try to claim that I know nothing.

Mike Miller is a center, right? Because he's tall? I think that's it, yea, we'll go with that!
 

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That';s why I finished at the top of last year's pick-em and you were almost the last place finisher. You are the person who doesn't know shit.....Anyone who's wife makes all the money and brags about it on here isn't much of a man. Maybe let your wife pick the games; obviously he has all the smarts; except in picking men. You are stupid and Arrogant. Go get a decent paying job and grow the fuck up.

You are dumb as fuck - that's why everyone is on you and no one is supporting any one of your claims, be it 1) Wisconsin has a weak front line, 2) Wisconsin is worse than last year, 3) Frank Kaminsky = Mike Miller, or 4) We never landed on the moon. Not sure which of the above is the most ridiculous, only that they are all painfully clueless.
 

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Wisconsin does have a weak front line; Neither Decker or Kaminsky can bang inside. If Kaminsky is going to make it as a pro, it will be from the strong forward position. Again; no way he handles NBA centers. If you and DZon can't understand that, maybe pick another sport because you don't know anything about basketball....sorry; I'm not looking for support as I can think for myself and have my own opinions...sorry I'm sooooo deep into your childish heads; you both freak out over any and all of my posts. Take 2 aspirin and have a nap....you both need it.
 

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Wisconsin does have a weak front line; Neither Decker or Kaminsky can bang inside. If Kaminsky is going to make it as a pro, it will be from the strong forward position. Again; no way he handles NBA centers. If you and DZon can't understand that, maybe pick another sport because you don't know anything about basketball....sorry; I'm not looking for support as I can think for myself and have my own opinions...sorry I'm sooooo deep into your childish heads; you both freak out over any and all of my posts. Take 2 aspirin and have a nap....you both need it.

Actually I'm starting to think you know little about basketball. You think Wisconsin has a weak frontcourt? That is laughable. They EASILY have a top 5 frontcourt in college basketball. After Kentucky's you can argue they have the best. Every team was ranked prior to the season, guess who was ranked as the 2nd best, that would be Wisconsin.

2014-15 College Basketball Preview: Top 10 frontcourts
 

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Wisconsin does have a weak front line; Neither Decker or Kaminsky can bang inside. If Kaminsky is going to make it as a pro, it will be from the strong forward position. Again; no way he handles NBA centers. If you and DZon can't understand that, maybe pick another sport because you don't know anything about basketball....sorry; I'm not looking for support as I can think for myself and have my own opinions...sorry I'm sooooo deep into your childish heads; you both freak out over any and all of my posts. Take 2 aspirin and have a nap....you both need it.

Also, FYI Dekker won't have to bang inside. And also how many true centers are there in the NBA these days like 5? Its not like every team has Shaq on it.
 

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Actually I'm starting to think you know little about basketball. You think Wisconsin has a weak frontcourt? That is laughable. They EASILY have a top 5 frontcourt in college basketball. After Kentucky's you can argue they have the best. Every team was ranked prior to the season, guess who was ranked as the 2nd best, that would be Wisconsin.

2014-15 College Basketball Preview: Top 10 frontcourts

You're only realizing this now??? You didn't see this last year??? Rune is simply a clueless fan who wishes he knew anything about basketball. As I stated last year, there's nothing wrong with being clueless, it's not his fault his father raised him wrong. But to try and sound like you know something is just over-doing it.
 
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