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OT: Malaysian Airline Shot Down in Ukraine

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I hate to damper all the pessimism here, but the world is not going to hell, people don't suck and things are not universally awful. Just look at all the recent things that have taken place lately - the WC was fantastic, the Olympics went off just fine, everyday life for most people goes along just fine - I could go on and on but there isn't enough space. I know it's hard not to think the world is going to hell by what the media reports, but honestly if things were as bad as some have expressed here we would all be dead by now. Bad things are always going to happen, but for every bad event there are thousands of good things that happen every day. In the big picture we are far better off today than we were even a hundred years ago, not to mention a thousand or more years ago.

Rant over.

Really good valid message, I would disagree on the Olympics and WC as examples of good things. Yes we got excitement over them but they came at such cost to the people in those areas. They are so corrupt but we turn a blind eye to that part as we feel and find a false sense of pride in what they now represent and not what they used to represent. Your point however is heard loud and clear. There is good in this world worth fighting for. I'm going to go find some today
 

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Is that the flight plan *for* yesterday? That is exactly where this plane went. I understood the regular flight pattern to go further south than that link and go over Romania and across the Black and Caspian seas.

I think the diverting further south into Syria and Iraq with ISIS activity would be a greater concern. They aren't over Iran long, and mostly low population mountainous region. Going through Syria and Iraq sends them pretty much right through the center of Iran.

I guess technically the US and Britain are "done" in Afghanistan...

That was the path the flight took on Wednesday, so I'm assuming that is the path the flight was following yesterday prior to its crashing.
 

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That was the path the flight took on Wednesday, so I'm assuming that is the path the flight was following yesterday prior to its crashing.

I was listening to BBC news and they said that there were 3 other planes on the same corridor and within 100 KM of this one at the time of the incident. A KLM plane was less than 10 km away going the other way.

So not all that unusual apparently.


Oh, and this. A friend of mine just made this his facebook banner. I found it quite apropos with all the news of the last few days.
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True

I guess I forgot to include the fall of man, that one big flood, multiple plagues, the destruction of Sodom, etc...

Glad we are capable of intelligent discussion on this topic on our board. That's why I love this place ::grouphug:

If we wanna get all biblical: can you imagine just how bad Sodom was? That God, you know...just destroyed it? Or how bad it was that there was basically one redeemable man on the Earth?
 

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That is unbelievable. The odds on that are so ridiculous.

Makes me think of that terrible movie Final Destination though. I'd be freaked out if I were him.

If I were him I would never, ever, ever fly on a plane ever again, especially the Malaysia airplanes
 

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Good points made on both sides of the pessimism/optimism outlook, but there is one line that really hits home with me and summarizes nicely most if not all of the strife and conflict in this world...past, present, and (wishfully not) future:

We are crumbling as a society all over this planet and we hide behind religion, politics, race and finance.
...and Facebook and Twitter.
 

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Good points made on both sides of the pessimism/optimism outlook, but there is one line that really hits home with me and summarizes nicely most if not all of the strife and conflict in this world...past, present, and (wishfully not) future:


...and Facebook and Twitter.

You know, people have differing beliefs. But I think one belief everyone holds is when they wake up in the morning, they'd like to be able to lay their head back down on their pillow at night having not gotten blown up, shot, set on fire or kidnapped and massacred because they were in the wrong place when some fucking idiot decided to act up.

Maybe someday, we - all the people of the world - will stand up and say 'enough is enough'.
 

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Good points made on both sides of the pessimism/optimism outlook, but there is one line that really hits home with me and summarizes nicely most if not all of the strife and conflict in this world...past, present, and (wishfully not) future:


...and Facebook and Twitter.

social media really has become its own form of conflict hasnt it
 

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social media really has become its own form of conflict hasnt it
Social media is a microcosm of society and a magnet and magnifying glass that exposes the true nature of humanity hidden in anonymity, which has shown just how anti-social society has become.
 

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Social media is a microcosm of society and a magnet and magnifying glass that exposes the true nature of humanity hidden in anonymity, which has shown just how anti-social society has become.

its the devil
 

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You know, people have differing beliefs. But I think one belief everyone holds is when they wake up in the morning, they'd like to be able to lay their head back down on their pillow at night having not gotten blown up, shot, set on fire or kidnapped and massacred because they were in the wrong place when some fucking idiot decided to act up.

Maybe someday, we - all the people of the world - will stand up and say 'enough is enough'.
It simply comes down to following the golden rule. The person next to you wants to lay their head down on their pillow at night unscathed just as much as you do (unless they are chasing 30 virgins in the afterlife).

Now the mindset is too much of "I don't care as long as it isn't me."
 
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