Opener strategy

[MilkSpiller22]

It's not an advantage.

Pitching is not a sprint. Erratic rotations kills the rest of the bullpen, because you have to rely on limits, not production...and if you try to rely on production, your limits go to fuck, and your strategy implodes...hence you risk your bullpen.

And again....all for no advantage.
Most teams have four capable starters. The fifth can be managed. There is a "long man" in most bull pens.

This is creating a problem with no solution, for an at best, equal outcome.

any strategy can backfire... a SP can come in and get blown away in the first too... so failure is just bad execution... it is not proof of bad strategy...

so you have to assume that we are talking about the same pitchers to be pitching in a game... A SP, that will not go more than 6 innings no matter what... does it really matter which innings he pitches in?? I don't think so...


and if you have a weak starter the chances are you are going to have a bullpen game anyway...

Basically the whole strategy is about maximizing the chances for bullpen success... there is no better inning for that than the first... since you can prepare for it...


this strategy will never be used when the SP is one of your top ones... If anything this strategy is going to be used to help out your 5th starter(if you have a weak 5th), or give all your SPs a rest...

This strategy is not intended to revolutionize baseball...

 

[molsaniceman]

The Orioles are considering using openers this season, GM Mike Elias said Tuesday.
Dylan Bundy and Alex Cobb are probably the two Orioles starters who would be immune from such a scheme. Andrew Cashner is currently the only other lock for the Baltimore rotation. Nate Karns, David Hess, Josh Rogers, Luis Ortiz and Yefry Ramirez are candidates for the other two spots, though the possibility exists that the Orioles will add another cheap veteran or two.

 

[JohnU]

any strategy can backfire... a SP can come in and get blown away in the first too... so failure is just bad execution... it is not proof of bad strategy...

so you have to assume that we are talking about the same pitchers to be pitching in a game... A SP, that will not go more than 6 innings no matter what... does it really matter which innings he pitches in?? I don't think so...


and if you have a weak starter the chances are you are going to have a bullpen game anyway...

Basically the whole strategy is about maximizing the chances for bullpen success... there is no better inning for that than the first... since you can prepare for it...


this strategy will never be used when the SP is one of your top ones... If anything this strategy is going to be used to help out your 5th starter(if you have a weak 5th), or give all your SPs a rest...

This strategy is not intended to revolutionize baseball...

To be honest, I always believed that your ace (if you have one) should win 2 out of 3, your No. 2 ans 3 guy should win 2 out of 4, and your 4-5 guys should be just good enough so that you can reasonably try to win a series.

Those aren't data, just notions. I reiterate, the 'opener' isn't evil if you need to win a series, or give your weary staff a break or just modify the rhythm and screw with the upcoming opponent.

The attack-by-committee approach isn't happening because only the weaker teams who can't afford a blockbuster staff will use it and ... yeah, they are already losing 3 out of 5.

 

[wazzu31]

It’s a gimmick that is used for teams that don’t have a good enough staff or a bullpen.