Ongoing NHL Thread Part V minutes for fighting

[sabresfaninthesouth]

Since this wasn't exactly a banner year for first time eligibility, I thought this would be the year Mogilny got the call.

If he hadn't had so many injury problems, I don't think it'd even be a discussion. But on-ice stats and being a Triple Gold aside, I don't think he's getting enough credit for being the first Soviet player to defect and for later being - albeit briefly - the first Russian-born captain.

 

[BGDave]

Vinny will never get in because of the steroids thing.

Pretty obvious when you look at his stats that he was juicing. Never had more than 98 PIMs in a season, then all of a sudden he hits 158 PIMs in 95-96. Roid rage is the only way to explain that kind of one season spike on the "old time hockey" meter.

Totally juicing


For all you Burrows fans out there

 

[forty_three]

Since this wasn't exactly a banner year for first time eligibility, I thought this would be the year Mogilny got the call.

If he hadn't had so many injury problems, I don't think it'd even be a discussion. But on-ice stats and being a Triple Gold aside, I don't think he's getting enough credit for being the first Soviet player to defect and for later being - albeit briefly - the first Russian-born captain.

Mogilny's story alone is something that should be told in the Hall for all time. It's ridiculous how much risk he took to come over here. And how many doors he opened.

Not to mention how great he was on the ice.

 

[thedddd]

Since this wasn't exactly a banner year for first time eligibility, I thought this would be the year Mogilny got the call.

If he hadn't had so many injury problems, I don't think it'd even be a discussion. But on-ice stats and being a Triple Gold aside, I don't think he's getting enough credit for being the first Soviet player to defect and for later being - albeit briefly - the first Russian-born captain.

Also until 2018-19 had the single best season (pts) for any Russian born player with 127.

Added he was a point per game player with over 900 games played.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

Totally juicing


For all you Burrows fans out there

Well, I was referring to Vinny Damphousse but I'll allow this because it includes a Bellows beat down.

 

[puckhead]

Also until 2018-19 had the single best season (pts) for any Russian born player with 127.

Added he was a point per game player with over 900 games played.

he also went a calendar year scoring more than a goal per game.
dude was ridiculous.

but he's no kevin lowe.

 

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he also went a calendar year scoring more than a goal per game.
dude was ridiculous.

but he's no kevin lowe.

I mean, if you said Paul Reinhart should be in the Hall of Fame, you'd be crazy, but he blows away the numbers Kevin Lowe put up in about 600 less games. Just because a guy is along for the ride and winning Stanley Cups doesn't mean he's a Hall of Famer.

/yeah, it still bothers me

 

[KennyBanyeah]

I mean, if you said Paul Reinhart should be in the Hall of Fame, you'd be crazy, but he blows away the numbers Kevin Lowe put in about 600 less games. Just because a guy is along for the ride and winning Stanley Cups doesn't mean he's a Hall of Famer.

/yeah, it still bothers me

Me too buddy.

Adjusting for era I'd put Chris Phillips as a better overall player than Kevin Lowe. If the Sens had somehow won 5 Cups during Phillips career I'd:

1. Be happier than a pig in shit.

2. Never in a million years suggest that Chris Phillips should be in the HHOF.


It's just such a bad choice. I think among the NHL players eligible this year he'd have been last on my ballot.

 

[puckhead]

It's just such a bad choice. I think among the NHL players eligible this year he'd have been last on my ballot.

the guy in my hockey group chat's last retort was "yeah well there's the GM and builder stuff for Lowe too"

I didn't bother responding because I already had a headache.

 

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the guy in my hockey group chat's last retort was "yeah well there's the GM and builder stuff for Lowe too"

I didn't bother responding because I already had a headache.

I can understand the headache, but I wish you would have asked him he thought the GM and builder stuff strengthened or weakened Lowe's chances.

 

[DragonfromTO]

sounds like riveting television




(of course, my family has been watching game shows from the 1970's lately)

If Kathryn is handling the balls I will probably watch, I won't even care that there's three of them

 

[KennyBanyeah]

If Kathryn is handling the balls I will probably watch, I won't even care that there's three of them

#You'vebeenHiggied

 

[dash]

If Kathryn is handling the balls I will probably watch, I won't even care that there's three of them

Jeremy Roenick likes this.

 

[puckhead]

I can understand the headache, but I wish you would have asked him he thought the GM and builder stuff strengthened or weakened Lowe's chances.

someone else in the chat picked up the torch, but it kind of fizzled

 

[BGDave]

Well, I was referring to Vinny Damphousse but I'll allow this because it includes a Bellows beat down.

another Senior moment lol

 

[thedddd]

I mean, if you said Paul Reinhart should be in the Hall of Fame, you'd be crazy, but he blows away the numbers Kevin Lowe put up in about 600 less games. Just because a guy is along for the ride and winning Stanley Cups doesn't mean he's a Hall of Famer.

/yeah, it still bothers me

On that note from more modern day does this mean Chris Kunitz a HOF'er? You know asking for a friend who thinks so.

 

[puckhead]

Mogilny's story alone is something that should be told in the Hall for all time. It's ridiculous how much risk he took to come over here. And how many doors he opened.

Not to mention how great he was on the ice.

https://SportsHoopla.com/y9a7v7q6 (sportsnet: Mogilny snubs becoming laughable)

“He deserves that honour (of being in the HHOF),” Fedorov said when he was inducted in 2015. “Alex was faster than all of us and Alex was a machine. He was built like a machine. Plus on top of all the crazy skill he had, he’s better than all of us. He’s amazing.”

I heard Pavel Bure say the same thing.

 

[thedddd]

And with Mogilny if they used the fact about never playing a whole season couldn't the same have been said about Lemieux?

Really nonsensical that he isn't in and no clue what any legit excuse they would have.

 

[forty_three]

On that note from more modern day does this mean Chris Kunitz a HOF'er? You know asking for a friend who thinks so.

You really can't be surrounding yourself with that kind of negativity.

 

[dash]

No surprise that Flames - Canucks game are spirited affairs...