Ongoing NHL thread - Part III

[BGDave]

Doubt they want a prospect at the Centre of any deal. They need to make the postseason or big guys might be out of a job. I'm sure they want an NHL lefty.

I read somewhere they want a Left D with a similar skill level.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I read somewhere they want a Left D with a similar skill level.

Which they should be able to get.

Much as the Leafs could use a guy like Trouba I'm hoping they sit this one out. Don't want to sacrifice Gardiner or Rielly for an RD unless his name's Subban or Pietrangelo or Doughty etc.

 

[forty_three]

well now...




@FriedgeHNIC 7m7 minutes ago
Jets have yet to comment. Trouba stressed this is not about the city or team, but his desire to play right side. More to come.

Just learned that Kurt Overhardt is Trouba's agent.

Now it's all coming together.

 

[forty_three]

So, the Blue Jackets split squad double vs St Louis ended in an aggregate 12-3 loss for the Jackets. 7-3 and 5-0.

Jackets goals scored by Hartsy (2) and Gagner (1). They were on the same line with Atkinson.


Mid season form! One line, relying on a guy who's gonna get hurt, a guy who will be a villain (and eventually railroaded out of town) and a guy who is at least 2 feet shorter than the league average.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

and a guy who is at least 2 feet shorter than the league average.

Which, as we know, doesn't matter at all.

 

[pixburgher66]

Intriguing thought seen on the internet: Maatta, Fehr, for Trouba. Not gonna happen, but an interesting thought regardless. Pens could use a RD, Maatta and Trouba are comparable, Fehr for salary relief.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Intriguing thought seen on the internet: Maatta, Fehr, for Trouba. Not gonna happen, but an interesting thought regardless. Pens could use a RD, Maatta and Trouba are comparable, Fehr for salary relief.

I agree that Maatta and Trouba are somewhat comparable (although handedness aside I'd probably prefer Maatta) but given the fact that handedness is an issue here I don't know why the Jets would take money back unless there was something like a 1st round pick or decent prospect involved.

 

[pixburgher66]

I agree that Maatta and Trouba are somewhat comparable (although handedness aside I'd probably prefer Maatta) but given the fact that handedness is an issue here I don't know why the Jets would take money back unless there was something like a 1st round pick or decent prospect involved.

Because the Pens would need it to make the deal work money-wise, and it's only one more year, position of weakness, yadda yadda. And I'm not sure that I'd necessarily do it, but the Pens have a RD shortage. I honestly don't see it happening, but it's an interesting idea if you could pair it up as Dumolin-Letang, Pouliot-Trouba. I think the Pens love Maatta too much for this to ever happen, but when you consider his health issues, it's an interesting concept.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Because the Pens would need it to make the deal work money-wise, and it's only one more year, position of weakness, yadda yadda. And I'm not sure that I'd necessarily do it, but the Pens have a RD shortage. I honestly don't see it happening, but it's an interesting idea if you could pair it up as Dumolin-Letang, Pouliot-Trouba. I think the Pens love Maatta too much for this to ever happen, but when you consider his health issues, it's an interesting concept.

I don't think the Jets have much leverage in this situation but I still don't see them making a deal where they're giving up the guy with a higher value and taking money to make it work. You only get so many Phil Kessel deals.

 

[pixburgher66]

I don't think the Jets have much leverage in this situation but I still don't see them making a deal where they're giving up the guy with a higher value and taking money to make it work. You only get so many Phil Kessel deals.

They'd also be getting a comparable player at $4M/6 years.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

They'd also be getting a comparable player at $4M/6 years.

I know but what's the kicker lol. What's enticing the Jets to make that move if they believe (correctly) they have the more valuable trade chip? An overpaid 4th liner?

 

[pixburgher66]

Marchand signs extension in Boston. Just over $6M per, 8 years.

 

[dash]

Marchand signs extension in Boston. Just over $6M per, 8 years.

Well, that's step 1 , now all the B's need to do is to get Crosby.

 

[forty_three]

Well, that's step 1 , now all the B's need to do is to get Crosby.

And Dubinsky.




AND DOAN

 

[esls79]

Kunitz, Jultz and a first to Boston for B rad.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

6 shmill per will buy alot of douche

 

[forty_three]

Trouba wanted to address the media in Winnipeg, but his agent said no way.

So, how many people in the league do you suppose would love the opportunity to drive a bullet train over Kurt's scrotum?

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Trouba wanted to address the media in Winnipeg, but his agent said no way.

So, how many people in the league do you suppose would love the opportunity to drive a bullet train over Kurt's scrotum?

I think agents get a bad rap. GM's negotiate just as ruthlessly but fans seem to give them a pass by and large.

The only difference between the two is agents negotiate on behalf of the guys fans actually pay money to see whereas GM's negotiate on the behalf of billionaire owners.

 

[forty_three]

I think agents get a bad rap. GM's negotiate just as ruthlessly but fans seem to give them a pass by and large.

The only difference between the two is agents negotiate on behalf of the guys fans actually pay money to see whereas GM's negotiate on the behalf of billionaire owners.

Wait until he convinces Kerby Rychel that he should be getting at least as much as Marian Gaborik year after next.

He used Toews as a "comparable" for Johansen and started that mess a couple years ago. And he's a major factor in why Dubinsky makes 5.85. He's probably telling Trouba he is every bit as good as Doughty. I'll let a Vancouver fan chime in on the Kesler thing.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Wait until he convinces Kerby Rychel that he should be getting at least as much as Marian Gaborik year after next.

He used Toews as a "comparable" for Johansen and started that mess a couple years ago. And he's a major factor in why Dubinsky makes 5.85. He's probably telling Trouba he is every bit as good as Doughty. I'll let a Vancouver fan chime in on the Kesler thing.

Who's to say he isn't, though? Who's to say there isn't another GM that would pay that?

I don't think the agents are out of line, I think the RFA system in general is broken to begin with and in a league where the player is restricted pretty much through to the end of their prime why the hell would I blame an agent for maximising what a player gets? I think if we were allowing players to compete for money in a system wherein it makes more sense to negotiate for more money in their younger years we would see fewer long-term big-money contracts for guys in their 30s that they will never ever ever live up to and everyone benefits from that.