Ongoing NHL thread - Part III

[Comeds]

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I wish Wideman was here to lay me out cold.

 

[dash]

I guess Henderson just got concussed from all the extra concussion floating around Wideman, huh?

Caman BBB, you're a better poster than the above, that's HFboards material. Is Wideman responsible for Henderson's concusion? Absolutely. Did he pay a harsh penalty? Well, he missed 19 games and ended up losing over 250 grand. I'd say that's a harsh penalty. I also think the vilification of Wideman in the media has been extreme.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Only evidence I have is the fact that I've had five. And while I won't say that it will make you inherently angry or violent, I can tell you with 100% certainty that you really don't have much of an idea what is going on around you at first.

Worst one I had was a face first landing on a halfpipe ramp. I was actually out and when my friends woke me up, I had zero idea what the fuck was happening around me. 15 minutes later, I hopped on my bike and rode 5 miles home. Where I lost consciousness again (but that was more due to blood loss) and wound up in an ambulance and found out I had a broken jaw too once I got to the hospital.

Look at Indy Car. Driver Will Power had a heavy wreck in practice on Friday. Went out and qualified the car on pole on Saturday and then got out of the car and started puking. Missed the race Sunday and was diagnosed with a concussion late Sunday night.

Every other one I've had was similar. Kinda stunned at first, very disorienting. Then you level off. Then, the next day or later that same day is when it starts to hurt to high heaven. I mean everything hurts. Every noise goes right through your head. Every light hits you like a hammer.



All that said, I think that Wideman has responsibility and needed some kind of punishment. Not pre-deciding to hit someone doesn't change the fact that you did. 20 games is stupid and to paint him as the evil ref hating killer is just stupid. I would have been cool with 10 games as a warning to everyone. The way it dragged out is pathetic.

I got concussed once with a broken jaw too - except I got sucker-punched in the face by a pro boxer trying to hit someone else lol.

I know the feeling but I just don't recall getting up and not being able to stop myself from steamrolling the human beings in front of me. It was more just like "fuck my head hurts".

I just think we've been watching athletes get concussed for long enough and I can't recall an instance of a player suffering a concussion then suffering "concussion rage".

 

[Comeds]

I wish Wideman was here to lay me out cold.

I do not want to join in any argument so I am going to change this to something no one has ever argued about.

I wish Bertuzzi was here to lay me out cold.

Either way, oh joy.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Caman BBB, you're a better poster than the above, that's HFboards material. Is Wideman responsible for Henderson's concusion? Absolutely. Did he pay a harsh penalty? Well, he missed 19 games and ended up losing over 250 grand. I'd say that's a harsh penalty. I also think the vilification of Wideman in the media has been extreme.

The vilification comes only from the fact the court of public opinion has very ample evidence that doesn't do Wideman any favours in his pleas for innocence. The guy bowled over a referee. The defences I've seen for him read like the Warren Report if that report were published despite the Zapruder Film being shot in Rogers 4K.

If we go into it enough, there's a good case to be made here to abolish on-ice referees and linesmen forever because they are pretty much obsolete as it is, but so long as they're there I don't really blame them for pulling out the few stops they have available to them to protect themselves.

Anyway, this horse has been beaten like an American goalie in a medal-round game.

 

[dash]

Anyway, this horse has been beaten like an American goalie in a medal-round game.

Agreed - Until we tangle again.

 

[DragonfromTO]

I got concussed once with a broken jaw too - except I got sucker-punched in the face by a pro boxer trying to hit someone else lol.

I know the feeling but I just don't recall getting up and not being able to stop myself from steamrolling the human beings in front of me. It was more just like "fuck my head hurts".

I just think we've been watching athletes get concussed for long enough and I can't recall an instance of a player suffering a concussion then suffering "concussion rage".

Did your incident happen in a context where "steamrolling" people is a common occurrence though? I guess if I were concussed I think I'd be way more likely to instinctively run someone over in the immediate aftermath if it happened during a full contact hockey game than if it happened while getting something from the cupboards in my kitchen.

 

[forty_three]

Agreed - Until we tangle again.

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I liked that because you were at 1999 likes.


only reason.

 

[DragonfromTO]

The vilification comes only from the fact the court of public opinion has very ample evidence that doesn't do Wideman any favours in his pleas for innocence. The guy bowled over a referee. The defences I've seen for him read like the Warren Report if that report were published despite the Zapruder Film being shot in Rogers 4K.

If we go into it enough, there's a good case to be made here to abolish on-ice referees and linesmen forever because they are pretty much obsolete as it is, but so long as they're there I don't really blame them for pulling out the few stops they have available to them to protect themselves.

Anyway, this horse has been beaten like an American goalie in a medal-round game.

Speaking of American goalies, here's someone I haven't thought about in a long time... Jack Campbell. How many Vezina trophies was he supposed to have by now?

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Did your incident happen in a context where "steamrolling" people is a common occurrence though? I guess if I were concussed I think I'd be way more likely to instinctively run someone over in the immediate aftermath if it happened during a full contact hockey game than if it happened while getting something from the cupboards in my kitchen.

I was at a bar, so yes?

 

[higgyfan4]

Wings/Flyers tonight. Fly Guys 3 points behind Wings for final wild card. Anthony Mantha, the Other 'Next Crosby', has been called up.

How long into the game before Gudas tries to murder him, just so the DoPS can NOT suspend him yet again???

 

[dare2be]

I liked that because you were at 1999 likes.


only reason.

And I liked it because "2001: A Post Odyssey"

 

[dash]

I liked that because you were at 1999 likes.


only reason.

Thanks buddy, it was either a threatening Lucic in a handshake line or a cat gif. The coin flip landed "heads".

 

[dare2be]

Thanks buddy, it was either a threatening Lucic in a handshake line or a cat gif. The coin flip landed "headcase".

FIFY

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

The coin flip landed "future Canuck".

I like this one, too.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Wings/Flyers tonight. Fly Guys 3 points behind Wings for final wild card. Anthony Mantha, the Other 'Next Crosby', has been called up.

How long into the game before Gudas tries to murder him, just so the DoPS can NOT suspend him yet again???

I think he should be "FRENCH CROSBY". Plus Mantha is already 21 so he's basically on the downside of his career already anyway. He'll be up for the HHOF in a few years.

 

[DragonfromTO]

I was at a bar, so yes?

I guess that you just live a very different life than I do then. I mean, I've run over someone in almost every full contact hockey game I've ever played but I can't recall ever doing something similar in a bar and/or it being standard (let alone permitted) fare at any bar I've visited.

 

[higgyfan4]

Plus Mantha is already 21 so he's basically on the downside of his career already anyway.

Thanks for ruining my dreams...

 

[dash]

And I liked it because "2001: A Post Odyssey"

Dare, I'm confused, I don't feel well.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I guess that you just live a very different life than I do then. I mean, I've run over someone in almost every full contact hockey game I've ever played but I can't recall ever doing something similar in a bar and/or it being standard (let alone permitted) fare at any bar I've visited.

Well shit I was 21. Not like I was at the god damned Cactus Club now was I.