Ongoing NHL Thread - Part Bedards and Ballards

[thedddd]

Oh boy…

Oh joy can’t wait for whatever is going to happen.

 

[puckhead]

Not sure where Strickland is getting his info, but everything else I have seen is that Rantanen and Avs had been heavily involved in extension talks and both sides were willing to talk in-season it was just that Colorado realized it couldn't get there and risked losing him for nothing.

Maybe the timing of it was a surprise but it doesn't sound like Rantanen should have been surprised they couldn't make it work.

What I had read was that rantanen wasn't budging from his 8*$14M ask, and Avs realised that they couldn't do it.

 

[forty_three]

Geez, the top 10 of the 2015 draft is damn good...

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I remember thinking that missing Provorov would hurt and also being kinda annoyed we passed on Rantanen.

10 years in, we got the exact right guy, had him alongside Provorov to show beyond a doubt he was the right choice and we could be in play on Rantanen this summer.

 

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[Bloody Brian Burke]

My thinking was if they had just directly retained on Hall which would have been just about the same money that probably could have netted a second. Instead, they got involved to facilitate a division rival's move and got less.

I've just never seen anyone weaponize cap space against themselves.

Even retaining I don’t think anybody was giving them a 2nd for Hall even retained is my logic - I just don’t see value in him today. They may have gotten a 4th. So a 3rd and they’re just retaining on a different player seems fair IMO.

 

[forty_three]

Elliotte Friedman (Bot) (@notfriedgehnic.bsky.social)

Hearing NYR closing in on a 5x$4.1M extension with newly acquired Will Borgen. He’s been a great fit there

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By this logic and the Avs with Blackwood, that means Rantanen should get 8x16m next Thursday.

 

[thedddd]

Geez, the top 10 of the 2015 draft is damn good...

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That 1st round as a whole was very good. Well except the Bruins.

 

[thedddd]

Shocked I tell you... shocked.

 

[puckhead]

 

[thedddd]

Ozzie Smith liked that.

 

[forty_three]

Ozzie Smith liked that.

The judges would have also accepted Brooks Robinson

 

[forty_three]

So, it seems that Mikko Rantanen spoke to a Finnish newspaper and doesn't seem terribly thrilled how it all went down.

Media speculation suggested that Rantanen’s salary demands were too high for Colorado.

“I don’t think that’s true. I don’t want to talk exact numbers, but I was willing to take a significant cut below my market value. That’s why this trade was such a shock to me,” Rantanen explained.

So the question is was he willing to take less than the 14m it's been reported he wanted to stay in Colorado or is 14m what he believes is below his market value?

 

[BGDave]

So the question is was he willing to take less than the 14m it's been reported he wanted to stay in Colorado or is 14m what he believes is below his market value?

I am guessing both are true. Also, his definition of significant is unknown. It may mean $500,000 to him.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I am guessing both are true. Also, his definition of significant is unknown. It may mean $500,000 to him.

Over 8 years that’s $4 mil so hardly insignificant.

I saw that they were willing to make him the highest paid winger and he passed on that. I think I trade at that point too.

All in all not a deal I would’ve been particularly upset to see the Leafs make with Marner (although Dumbass gave him a full NTC along with his overpay so not gonna happen).