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[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

Roman Reigns needs to work on those lines.

 

[sooner78wakeboard]

Yep but overall Roman Reigns looks like he has got some upside and talent.

It's old Fit Finley!!

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

JBL is right, "they are standing" that's all that matters.

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

Yep but overall Roman Reigns looks like he has got some upside and talent.

It's old Fit Finley!!

I like Reigns but lot of doubts about him.

 

[futballiscool]

Reigns is still a work in progress...

but if they're grooming him as the top guy he has to get more aggressive on the mic.

these are basically the first solo promos of his career so I'll give him a pass for now

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

LOL @ Cole thinking they put staples in your skull

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

Reigns is still a work in progress...

but if they're grooming him as the top guy he has to get more aggressive on the mic.

these are basically the first solo promos of his career so I'll give him a pass for now

He's got the worst mic & ring skills of the former Shield IMO. Only thing he's got is size it seems.

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

Great match by Ambrose & Orton.

 

[futballiscool]

He's got the worst mic & ring skills of the former Shield IMO. Only thing he's got is size it seems.

He's got the traits. Size, athleticism, ring presence...

he needs more experience though

 

[futballiscool]

Ambrose has a late 90s ECW feel. he'd be a good Heyman guy

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

He's got the traits. Size, athleticism, ring presence...

he needs more experience though

True true

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

Ambrose has a late 90s ECW feel. he'd be a good Heyman guy

 

[sooner78wakeboard]

Ambrose has a late 90s ECW feel. he'd be a good Heyman guy

 

[iowajerms]

I always thought that how long the title was held by each wrassler is a better gauge than number of title runs.

15 time winner also means 14 time loser.

How bout how long the title was held. That would be interesting to combine all the 15 Cena title runs and 16 Flair runs to Sanmartino's 8 year run.

In # of days. That is how we should judge the title holders all time.

And also, before the two belts in one company should be a factor as well. With all these modern guys they count the WWE championship wins as well as WOrld Heavyweight championship wins.

I don't think the longevity one held the belt only would work for the last 15-20 years. If you include that, the owner of the promoter only gave the belt to who he trusted, which was probably no more than a handful of people. In AWA, the 2 Ganges and Buckwinkle are basically the only guys who had the AWA belt for long period of time. Memphis trusted Lawler. NWA trusted Flair. WCCW trusted Von Erichs. WWWF trusted Sanmartino.

There wasn't really one major promotion that overruled the others like it is today. Talent easily left one promotion and went to another, and they didn't want the belt to go with them. It wasn't until the early-mid 90s until WWF really took off and the others quit fighting until WCW. Now, TNA is the closest to compete and it's not even close.

 

[Steelboy84]

Management has Cole pushing the Network pretty hard tonight. Gotta make those shareholders happy.

 

[futballiscool]

Bret!

 

[iowajerms]

Management has Cole pushing the Network pretty hard tonight. Gotta make those shareholders happy.

6-month commitment for most people is coming to an end soon. Most people didn't get it until Wrestlemania month.

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

Hahaha Sandow!

 

[futballiscool]

Haha...

Sandow!

 

[WhiteMamba]

The title has been watered down so much over the past 20 years,

Rick Rude, Piper, Jake the Snake, Mr Perfect, Million Dollar Man (technically on MDM as he did buy the belt once) were never heavyweight champion in the wwf. Now they'd each have 10 title reigns if they were in their prime now

So true. After watching Wrasslin through the hogan / Flair era and a little bit after, I got back into WWe in Monday night wars and attitude era.

I was amazed at how the titles jumped around.