Official Raw thread

[jeffro151]

Good thing Rock showed up, this has easily been one of the worst Raw's in recent memory without him.

 

[OnlyCrimson]

Good thing Rock showed up, this has easily been one of the worst Raw's in recent memory without him.

I missed the first hour intentionally. I watched The Originals with my girl instead. That's how sad WWE's product is to me.

 

[OnlyCrimson]

So now we know the main event at HIC will not involve the heavyweight champ, lame

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

So now we know the main event at HIC will not involve the heavyweight champ, lame

Get used to it

 

[Ewa PGH Fan]

Get used to it

I may have to get used to it but I still don't like it one bit!

 

[johnson]

Brock isn't showing up the rest of the year??? That's beyond ridiculous. Taking off a PPV here and there seemed a bit much, but come on.

The Rock appearance was one of his best ever. He was on point like the old days. Made the whole show. And they set it up perfectly. Had no idea that was coming.

The rest of the show went from bizarre (Mini Gator v. El Torito was just surreal) to terrible (Emma). I do like Ambrose getting a push and he's making the most of it. Miz/Mizdow continues to be hilarious.

 

[anotheridiot]

is anyone thinking the face push to Wyatt might be against Rusev?

Rusev is gonna go after big shows knees as usual and probably humiliate him too. I doubt Swagger is waiting in the wings to succeed after Mark Henry and the big show fail, someone has to do a better job.

Could you imagine Lana getting mesmerized into taking that suit off?

Lana did pretty well with the rock. Fandango isnt doing much, maybe he can woo her to be his new dance partner.

Rusev spoke english, Rowand and Harper spoke and have both been set free, something must be happening with Bray Wyatt. could he end up being the third with Ambrose and Cena?

 

[iowajerms]

I was waiting for The Rock to ask Lana if she liked Strudel. His return last night was awesome. I hope he is around for a little bit. He and Lana could have awesome mic battles and him and Rusev could have great in-ring matches.

I wasn't a fan of having Ambrose leave. It is more entertaining if he was actually there behind the curtain, messing with other people or Rollins property.

I think I will like the Usos vs the Rhodes. I like how the Usos made fun of the Rhodes.

I like Lesnar, but if he's only going to be an attraction and shows up here and there, he shouldn't have the belt. I don't mind him getting the belt, but he needs to show up when he does have it. The Rock at least showed up when he had it and made sure he gave it back when he left.

 

[anotheridiot]

I like Lesnar, but if he's only going to be an attraction and shows up here and there, he shouldn't have the belt. I don't mind him getting the belt, but he needs to show up when he does have it. The Rock at least showed up when he had it and made sure he gave it back when he left.

But honestly, we wanted to see the Rock. I dont really think anyone needs to see Lesnar every week. I dont mind not listneing to Heyman. If Brock did his own talking it might be different, but he is just not that good in the ring. Cena is awesome in the ring. Look at the lift he gives wrestlers choke slamming him. Thats why Brock was able to suplex him across the ring. You put dead weight against lesnar and its a yawner. Its not even worthy of Goldberg and a `15 second victory.

If they paid Brock to wrestle every week we would see the same tired moves over and over. What they should be doing is giving a better push to the rest of the belts. Should see one of the lesser titles up once a month, but right now its Cena or nobody for Brock. They might have had a shot with Reigns, but that could be months away.

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

I may have to get used to it but I still don't like it one bit!

There's nothing to like, it just is what it is

 

[johnson]

Lana can't leave Rusev! Their whole angle is one of the few that works really well. While being hypnotized by Bray would be interesting, I think it'd be bad in the long run.

 

[dcten]

Brock not being on all the PPVs through the end of the year is a definite head scratcher. He's not needed every week, or even every PPV, but I would have thought he'd at least show up for Survivor Series, which is the last of the previous "Big 4" PPVs of the year. I could see him showing up unadvertised at HIAC, getting a little payback on Rollins.

It really is a wasted opportunity not shining up the secondary titles so that they could co-main event PPVs in the absence of a world title match on the card. They could be doing so much more with the three live hours they have every week.

 

[anotheridiot]

Brock not being on all the PPVs through the end of the year is a definite head scratcher. He's not needed every week, or even every PPV, but I would have thought he'd at least show up for Survivor Series, which is the last of the previous "Big 4" PPVs of the year. I could see him showing up unadvertised at HIAC, getting a little payback on Rollins.

It really is a wasted opportunity not shining up the secondary titles so that they could co-main event PPVs in the absence of a world title match on the card. They could be doing so much more with the three live hours they have every week.

Depends if they are even gonna go back to what the survivor series was, 5 or 6 man teams, each is eliminated and the match goes on until an entire team is eliminated.. They went away from that last year. You build it up where its Ambrose, Cena, Reigns, Wyatt, against Rollins, Kane, Orton and HHH. Rhodes limp wrists and Usos build teams, Miz, sandow and 2 more body doubles or stunt men against 4 guys. any 4 divas with Paige against any 4 divas with AJ.

If they go back to real survivor series format, there is not really a place for a world title match. Not gonna find 4 guys to team with Brock in that kind of match.

 

[dcten]

Depends if they are even gonna go back to what the survivor series was, 5 or 6 man teams, each is eliminated and the match goes on until an entire team is eliminated.. They went away from that last year. You build it up where its Ambrose, Cena, Reigns, Wyatt, against Rollins, Kane, Orton and HHH. Rhodes limp wrists and Usos build teams, Miz, sandow and 2 more body doubles or stunt men against 4 guys. any 4 divas with Paige against any 4 divas with AJ.

If they go back to real survivor series format, there is not really a place for a world title match. Not gonna find 4 guys to team with Brock in that kind of match.

I didn't mean to suggest that Brock be part of a team in a traditional Survivor Series match (though, if there were enough Paul Heyman guys on the roster, that would be something), just that since Survivor Series is their last big PPV of the year, I thought he would at least have a match on that. What they could do is have a traditional Survivor Series match open the show, and the winner(s) would get to face Brock for the title. You could do Ambrose/Cena/Ziggler/Sheamus/Big Show vs. Rollins/Orton/Miz/Cesaro/Rusev. I wouldn't mind seeing an NXT team (Zayn/Steen/KENTA/Neville/Breeze) on the show as well.

 

[anotheridiot]

I didn't mean to suggest that Brock be part of a team in a traditional Survivor Series match (though, if there were enough Paul Heyman guys on the roster, that would be something), just that since Survivor Series is their last big PPV of the year, I thought he would at least have a match on that. What they could do is have a traditional Survivor Series match open the show, and the winner(s) would get to face Brock for the title. You could do Ambrose/Cena/Ziggler/Sheamus/Big Show vs. Rollins/Orton/Miz/Cesaro/Rusev. I wouldn't mind seeing an NXT team (Zayn/Steen/KENTA/Neville/Breeze) on the show as well.

I was just pointing out that they didnt run survivor series last year like they did in the past. There were only two matches. Years past I thought all the matches were the survivor variety.

WWE Champion Randy Orton def. Big Show
(RESULTS | PHOTOS)

CM Punk & Daniel Bryan def. Luke Harper & Erick Rowan
(RESULTS | PUNK & BRYAN EXCLUSIVE | PHOTOS)

World Heavyweight Champion John Cena def. Alberto Del Rio
(RESULTS | PHOTOS)

Mark Henry def. Ryback
(RESULTS | HENRY EXCLUSIVE | PHOTOS)

Natalya, The Bella Twins, The Funkadactyls, JoJo & Eva Marie def. Divas Champion AJ Lee, Tamina Snuka, Kaitlyn, Summer Rae, Aksana, Alicia Fox & Rosa Mendes (Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Tag Team Match)
(RESULTS | NATALYA & BELLA TWINS EXCLUSIVE | PHOTOS)

Intercontinental Champion Big E Langston def. Curtis Axel
(RESULTS | AXEL EXCLUSIVE | PHOTOS)

The Shield & The Real Americans def. Rey Mysterio, WWE Tag Team Champions Cody Rhodes & Goldust and The Usos (Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Tag Team Match)
(RESULTS | SHIELD EXCLUSIVE | PHOTOS).

 

[johnson]

Survivor Series is weird now because unlike Royal Rumble, Steel Cage matches, etc, that will stand the test of time...I think the concept has lost it's appeal. Look at the two big tag matches from last year...did anyone care at all what happened?

You need bigger, legit factions to make it work.

 

[dcten]

Survivor Series is weird now because unlike Royal Rumble, Steel Cage matches, etc, that will stand the test of time...I think the concept has lost it's appeal. Look at the two big tag matches from last year...did anyone care at all what happened?

You need bigger, legit factions to make it work.

You bring up a good point. One reason is that nobody cares about the undercard these days period, so when you just throw together teams of guys who are generally ignored on TV, nobody is going to care that they are part of a team.

The other thing about these kinds of matches is that when they first came up with the concept, you didn't really see big stars tagging together often. Now, they basically give these kinds of matches away every week. There''s no novelty factor any more.

 

[futballiscool]

They're making Raw about wrestling tonight. good show so far

 

[Inimical]

Wow wtf kind of ending was that. They had some great matches and to end it with everyone staring at each other. John making a fist, Randy looking disheveled on the ring apron. Seth leaving, then coming back for some reason to point angrily.

Things Seth Rollins has been wondering.


Wtf do i still carry this briefcase for?
Where is the WWE champion?
Am i going to hold this thing longer then anyone in history?

They ruined that main event. .....ugh.

 

[Inimical]

Like seriously Seth needs to find out where brock lives and hit him with a chair when hes going to take his kids to school in the morning. This really is ridiculous they have completely nullified the MOB with this nonsense.