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He's deff not an all star. If he plays harden type defense

I had kyrie at #26 when I did my top 50. Which is plenty commiserate with being a 2 time al star at age 22[/QUOTE]

He's not the 26th best player barely in the top 40IMO
 

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Couldn't happen, because they use the same balls for the next set of numbers.


Its behind closed doors, but there are a lot of people there who all have a personal interest to make sure it is done fairly and/or witness to make sure it is.

I agree and even if the NBA was somehow fixing the draft lottery, there's a saying that "2 people can keep a secret if one of them is dead". If the NBA was fixing the draft, someone who was in on it would have said something by now.
 

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Is that all there is to an nba player is shooting? :L

I would be worried if he can stsy healthy first, one slip up and he could be done for his career. They should start him out with less minutes IMO
 

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He's not the 26th best player barely in the top 40IMO

Yeah kyrie at best is in the 36-40 range.

Don't know what you two are smoking. If, in his clearly unbiased opinion, Wiggy has Kyrie as the 26th best player in the NBA, then it's obvious that he is. Wiggy has never been known to overvalue Cavs players.


This is the make shit up thread, right?

Wait!! It isn't? Oops, wrong thread. Sorry.
 

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Believe me I'm not taking a crap on him. There's more to a game than crossovers and some decent shooting

Decent shooting :laugh3:

It looks like that when you have to create your own tough shots and don't have much to work with. Like I said everyone is shitting on Kyrie (not saying you were). He can play especially with great teammates around him. This kid can go off for 30 no problem, just play a little better defense and he will be fine.
 

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The east isn't really wide open imo. Cleveland is the new Miami. The only team who can prevent Cleveland from making the finals is a healthy Chicago bulls squad. The others doesn't stand a chance. The east will have better teams than they had last yr but as always only 2 teams can make the finals

Washington is also very good.
 

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No one wants to come to cleveland right dj?



Only lebron and love who told minne to deal him here

Or mike miller taking half the salary. And Marion is next for the bench.


Where is your big plate of crow for lunch dj?

I've been wrong before just like you have.

4 seed last postseason?

72 wins and best team ever with James?



































Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
 

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I've been wrong before just like you have.

4 seed last postseason?

72 wins and best team ever with James?


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

A team that wins 70+, which basically never has almost perfect chemistry and has played for some time together.

I could see 60 wins, but 70 I think that is pretty damn tough. As long as they win the East
 

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And the Browns just had a major blow with dumb ass Gordon.

GOOD LUCK...
 

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A team that wins 70+, which basically never has almost perfect chemistry and has played for some time together.

I could see 60 wins, but 70 I think that is pretty damn tough. As long as they win the East

Russ is a notorious Cavs homer, he said they may challenge the Bulls record if James returned home.

Honestly, the Cavs had major improvement but I don't see more than 50-55 wins for them....Chicago and Washington are better overall imo.
 

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I have the Cavs at 48-51 wins this season. next season after some chemistry, I can see them at the 55-60 range.
 

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The Heat won 58 that 1st year with the Big 3. About 54 or 55 seems about right, but if they click sooner they could get 60.
 

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Don't know what you two are smoking. If, in his clearly unbiased opinion, Wiggy has Kyrie as the 26th best player in the NBA, then it's obvious that he is. Wiggy has never been known to overvalue Cavs players.


This is the make shit up thread, right?

Wait!! It isn't? Oops, wrong thread. Sorry.

Not making it up. 35-40 is fair for a guy that's bad in defense and doesn't make his teamates better. Wall is better right now
 

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No one wants to come to cleveland right dj?



Only lebron and love who told minne to deal him here

Or mike miller taking half the salary. And Marion is next for the bench.


Where is your big plate of crow for lunch dj?





Not speaking for DJ,

But who in a million years would have guessed that Dan Gilbert would essentially give total control of his team to the person he attempted to humiliate in his hate letter?

As far as veterans taking less to ring chase, it's nothing new.
Maybe James will throw them a bone somehow down the road.
 

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The Heat won 58 that 1st year with the Big 3. About 54 or 55 seems about right, but if they click sooner they could get 60.



You are in for a rude awakening IMO.
You might go further then the Bulls in the playoffs, but if they stay healthy they are winning the
division.
 

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This is why defense is so underrated still. Bulls probably have arguably the best defensive team in basketball. Probably are now with George going down. With golden state maybe being 2nd.. We will see
 
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