Official 2025 Draft Talk Thread

[flyerhawk]

Brugler's strengths and weaknesses for Immanwori..

1. Impressive size/speed athlete — easy to see why he is a “Freaks List” alum
2. Explosive range from depth and underneath, stringing runs to the sideline with his wheels
3. Productive as a robber and has a knack for undercutting routes
4. Movement skills to match up with backs and tight ends in coverage (didn’t allow a touchdown in 2024)
5. Looks natural playing the football and makes quarterbacks pay for poor decisions
6. Playmaker with ball in his hands (returned three of four interceptions 20 yards or more for touchdowns in 2024, though one was called back by penalty)
7. Just as comfortable running alley as he is filling run from the box
8. Love his physical mentality — he’d be competing in UFC if not for football
9. Feel for balancing wrap-tackle technique, as well as being able to send a message
10. Used from variety of angles as a blitzer
11. Being youngest of five boys developed toughness and competitive mentality at a young age
12. Voted a team captain and missed just one game over three seasons in Columbia

Weaknesses​

1. Inconsistent read anticipation as a post player
2. Overaggressive angles raise difficulty level of some tackle attempts (also two facemask penalties on 2024 tapes studied)
3. Body tightness shows when trying to redirect with shifty runners in space
4. Has grabby tendencies in coverage, which will make him attractive target for officials
5. Had some unnecessary penalties on 2024 tape (late hit versus Vanderbilt; unsportsmanlike conduct versus Kentucky)
6. Played on punt coverage as freshman (two tackles) but doesn’t have robust special teams experience
7. Missed one game as sophomore because of hamstring injury (Sept. 2023)

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

I mean it's fairly obvious what Mac and Schneider are doing.

All 4 picks are just athletic FREAKS. Emmanwori's RAS is the highest of any safety in NFL history. Zabel had a 37.5" vertical (that's just not normal for someone 315 lbs), Arroyo has capability to be a NIGHTMARE for defenses and was the best athletic TE in the draft.. And then Milroe, I mean CLEARLY the best athlete. I wouldn't say he's a better RUNNER than Jackson, but he's faster. And his arm strength is insane.

Seattle just took a bunch of freak athletes. I mean with exception of Milroe they can all play right away. Emmanwori has some character issues but I think Mac can deal with that and he's coming into a room with D Law, Reed, and Love... he wont be able to stir shit with that crew. Arroyo will need to learn to block and hopefully the knee isn't an issue anymore, but it was a steal in the mid 2nd. I thought he'd go early 2nd/late 1st.

On Milroe:
I would've preferred Wilson in round 3.... but whatever. If John/Klint/Mike think they can develop Milroe, whatever. And if you get Taysom Hill out of if for a 3rd rounder? Fine, whatever. If he doesn't work out? It's a 3rd rounder. Haynes in the 3rd was the safest right guard in the draft (like Wilson as Center) and he was inactive in some games last year, lol.

And people saying, "He's Justin Fields." Well, not really. Milroe actually has high character and a strong work ethic. Fields does not. He's also only 22 (just turned) so in 2 years you could have something there. And he's the type of guy if you say, "Hey you're riding the pine for 2 years, but we'll get you in some packages... but work hard and you may have a shot" it'll be met with "Yes sir!" Not: "BUT I WANT TO START NOW!!! And if I don't get my ice cream I'm going to sit on the sideline with a towel over my head!" Kubiak did good things with Purdy and Cousins, so there COULD be something there. I'm giving it a < 10% that Milroe will ever start, but if he DOES improve the flaws in his game, I mean you COULD have a star. It's a longshot, but sometimes you have to take those gambles.

That said, I'll stand by my F grade that I said I'd auto give out. lol... but I do get why he was attractive to Seattle. And if Klint just HAD to have his Taysom Hill 2.0, then he got him..

 

[flyerhawk]

On Milroe:
I would've preferred Wilson in round 3.... but whatever. If John/Klint/Mike think they can develop Milroe, whatever. And if you get Taysom Hill out of if for a 3rd rounder? Fine, whatever. If he doesn't work out? It's a 3rd rounder. Haynes in the 3rd was the safest right guard in the draft (like Wilson as Center) and he was inactive in some games last year, lol.

And people saying, "He's Justin Fields." Well, not really. Milroe actually has high character and a strong work ethic. Fields does not. He's also only 22 (just turned) so in 2 years you could have something there. And he's the type of guy if you say, "Hey you're riding the pine for 2 years, but we'll get you in some packages... but work hard and you may have a shot" it'll be met with "Yes sir!" Not: "BUT I WANT TO START NOW!!! And if I don't get my ice cream I'm going to sit on the sideline with a towel over my head!" Kubiak did good things with Purdy and Cousins, so there COULD be something there. I'm giving it a < 10% that Milroe will ever start, but if he DOES improve the flaws in his game, I mean you COULD have a star. It's a longshot, but sometimes you have to take those gambles.

That said, I'll stand by my F grade that I said I'd auto give out. lol... but I do get why he was attractive to Seattle. And if Klint just HAD to have his Taysom Hill 2.0, then he got him..

ANY QB you draft in the 3rd round is going to have be a project. No way around that. IMO, Milroe was the best option available. He offers the highest ceiling of any of the QBs in this draft other than Ward and Sanders. He also has a high likelihood of never making it beyond trick play QB. But I would rather take a chance on him over Dart or Gabriel or Slough or Sanders or Howard.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

ANY QB you draft in the 3rd round is going to have be a project. No way around that. IMO, Milroe was the best option available. He offers the highest ceiling of any of the QBs in this draft other than Ward and Sanders. He also has a high likelihood of never making it beyond trick play QB. But I would rather take a chance on him over Dart or Gabriel or Slough or Sanders or Howard.

I mean he's the perfect project QB. He has all the physical tools, but has the character/work ethic to accept: "Hey, you are NOT starting anytime soon if ever... work your ass off and we'll try to get you there."

In addition to that, Kubiak and his system will absolutely get Milroe on the field. It's Taysom Hill 2.0 (for now, may always be) which is NOT that bad of a thing.

 

[flyerhawk]

I mean he's the perfect project QB. He has all the physical tools, but has the character/work ethic to accept: "Hey, you are NOT starting anytime soon if ever... work your ass off and we'll try to get you there."

In addition to that, Kubiak and his system will absolutely get Milroe on the field. It's Taysom Hill 2.0 (for now, may always be) which is NOT that bad of a thing.

Exactly. He was the only QB I thought was worth taking a shot at. IMO, great value as he was projected to go in the 2nd.

Let's remember that the last QB we drafted in the 3rd round worked out pretty well for us.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Exactly. He was the only QB I thought was worth taking a shot at. IMO, great value as he was projected to go in the 2nd.

Let's remember that the last QB we drafted in the 3rd round worked out pretty well for us.

Well, the last 3rd round QB we had was a MUCH better passer. I think Wilson fell because nobody wanted a short QB lol.

But I will say Milroe is about as true of a project QB as you get. One with all the tools, no weird mechanics, and the willingness to put the effort in and sit on the bench.

I could say the same for Tebow but that throwing motion was a disaster to begin with, and they rushed him out there starting too fast.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

I don't think you can put too much stock in that last Michigan game. Meaningless bowl games after they missed out on the playoffs don't tell you much.

He could have sat but to his credit he played. Stats weren't great regardless if you think the bowl game is meaningful or not.

 

[MrS]

milroe was a pure luxury pick which i dont think they can really afford right now. still need a LB, a C would have been nice or another G. DL is still a need too.
and WR, we probably need one of those.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

milroe was a pure luxury pick which i dont think they can really afford right now. still need a LB, a C would have been nice or another G. DL is still a need too.
and WR, we probably need one of those.

I can't argue against this... but I kind of get why Seattle did what they did.

Milroe will 100% be used on the offense like Taysom Hill. And this offense does need weapons and playmakers. We're the lowest paid offense in the league. In THAT sense I don't think it was a pure luxury pick. A luxury pick IMO is drafting someone like Jihaad Campbell like the Eagles did (who will probably in all honesty be on IR/PUP for 2025). This does a couple things differently. There is active plays you can make him a part of in 2025 while also developing for a potential starting player at the most position in all of sports.

That said, would I rather have Wilson? Yah. That said, is there a 5% chance Milroe gets development from Kubiak (who worked with Cousins/Purdy) and we get a superstar out of it? Yes.

I dunno.. Again I'll give it an F grade. I said I would prior to the draft. The chance something works out with Milroe is so ridiculously low, but if it does, it's a slam dunk. Is that worth a 3rd? Eh... probably? Maybe I'm valuing a 3rd too low? I will disagree with Flyer, this is NOT the same as Wilson.. Wilson was ready to go and just had a size limitation. Milroe is NOT ready to go.

 

[MrS]

I can't argue against this... but I kind of get why Seattle did what they did.

Milroe will 100% be used on the offense like Taysom Hill. And this offense does need weapons and playmakers. We're the lowest paid offense in the league. In THAT sense I don't think it was a pure luxury pick. A luxury pick IMO is drafting someone like Jihaad Campbell like the Eagles did (who will probably in all honesty be on IR/PUP for 2025). This does a couple things differently. There is active plays you can make him a part of in 2025 while also developing for a potential starting player at the most position in all of sports.

That said, would I rather have Wilson? Yah. That said, is there a 5% chance Milroe gets development from Kubiak (who worked with Cousins/Purdy) and we get a superstar out of it? Yes.

I dunno.. Again I'll give it an F grade. I said I would prior to the draft. The chance something works out with Milroe is so ridiculously low, but if it does, it's a slam dunk. Is that worth a 3rd? Eh... probably? Maybe I'm valuing a 3rd too high?

the eagles are entitled to make luxury picks, the seahawks are not.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Well would of rather a QB drafted round 5 but I do think investing at QB is a good idea. Was hoping for more trench players but at least the opening at LG was addressed. I feel Seahawks draft has some potential to be really good and at worse some solid players with a high ceiling.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

the eagles are entitled to make luxury picks, the seahawks are not.

Okay well wait a minute..

The Eagles made a luxury pick (and traded up - as ridiculously funny as it was) in the 1st round.

That's not the same as taking a luxury pick in the 3rd round, at a position that is the most important in sports and can be used in a system that your OC has established can run WC formations..

I'm not sure where you're getting that comparison.

 

[MrS]

Okay well wait a minute..

The Eagles made a luxury pick (and traded up - as ridiculously funny as it was) in the 1st round.

That's not the same as taking a luxury pick in the 3rd round, at a position that is the most important in sports and can be used in a system that your OC has established can run WC formations..

I'm not sure where you're getting that comparison.

they won the superbowl they can basically do no wrong.

Well would of rather a QB drafted round 5 but I do think investing at QB is a good idea. Was hoping for more trench players but at least the opening at LG was addressed. I feel Seahawks draft has some potential to be really good and at worse some solid players with a high ceiling.

i liked the zabel pick, but after that they went back to their tendency to drafting outside in. this team will have the same structural problems it has had for years. the defense was 26th in rushing YPA, i dont see how they have fixed that.
even with zabel, C, RG, RT are all extremely questionable.

 

[blstoker]

i liked the zabel pick, but after that they went back to their tendency to drafting outside in. this team will have the same structural problems it has had for years. the defense was 26th in rushing YPA, i dont see how they have fixed that.
even with zabel, C, RG, RT are all extremely questionable.

After a dozen years + reading your posts, I would've been more shocked had you been happy with the draft.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

they won the superbowl they can basically do no wrong.


i liked the zabel pick, but after that they went back to their tendency to drafting outside in. this team will have the same structural problems it has had for years. the defense was 26th in rushing YPA, i dont see how they have fixed that.
even with zabel, C, RG, RT are all extremely questionable.

A swing tackle for depth is something they should draft. Seems they feel the young players at RG and center can progress and they have hired coaches to do a better job of developing them. The additions of Lawrence and Emmanwori should boost the defense, which was pretty good, still time to draft a run stuffing nose tackle and that swing tackle. It's not a bad draft and could be really good if the players taken first 2 rounds pan out.

 

[blstoker]

Howell to the Vikings

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Cam Jackson my sleeper nose got scooped up by the Panthers. Dang it.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Double early 5s? I mean moving Howell makes 100% sense.

 

[blstoker]

Cam Jackson my sleeper nose got scooped up by the Panthers. Dang it.

Yeah, Jackson was who I wanted.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Seahawks take a DT, I don't know anything about him but nice they addressed the DL.