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[Stymietee]

We should have, but one think that's needed to stay a fan is HOPE. So, to hold onto that hope, we needed to believe that Snyder finally realized he needed a good GM in order to become a contender. I think that's why DGF has posted about making a decision on whether or not to stay a Skins fan. We almost have to stay delusional to stay Skins fans. Kinda like being a Trump fan.

I'm an old fella who's learned that investing something as valuable as hope is a waste of energy and I absolutely refuse to lie to myself, the chief ingredient of the delusional.

I have been a fan of this team since 1960, and have personally taken an all business approach in my support of this team. That approach, bereft of both hope and delusion began just prior to the second Gibbs stint. Not that I wanted to do it that way, but after getting tapped on the frontal lobes for long periods of time that shit has got to eventually hurt. My response seems so natural to me now, however, I do kinda feel for those who are too young to have never experienced what a well run organization and "real" sustained winning is like here in D.C.

To be sure, there's great value in taking a business approach. First, you get to see things as they are and not as you wish or hope them to be. There's the absence of the emotional roller coaster that comes with that old refrain...."This time it will be different!" There are NO attachments to parts (players or staff) so when they leave as they all eventually do, Bye!....I sleep better because game time, drafts and free agency anticipation/ expectations don't exist. Of course if I had a wish, it would be a consecutive string of SB's victories until my dirt nap begins, but as you now know, I don't fuck around with fantasy either.

 

[Ruzious]

Interesting. I'm not sure I understand that approach, but I certainly won't say it has any less merit than the "traditional fandom approach"... if there is such a thing as the "traditional fandom approach". I was about 10 years after you - about a year before the Garo Yapremian to Mike Bass completion. My biggest Skins regret is that my only memory of watching Sonny was when he dropped back to pass and fell - tearing his achilles tendon.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Yeah I don't go back as far a Sonny, my earliest memories are of being a Colts fan until George Allen came to town and made the Redskins relevant and I joined that bandwagon. But I hear what Stymie is saying. Age changes you as as much as I still follow the team you just aren't as invested emotionally as you get into your late 40's. Suddenly you notice the losses just don't matter that much.

But there is a difference between detaching yourself emotionally and making the gut wrenching decision to remove support altogether. I'm still not over this, I feel like a scorned lover and right now I hope Snyder and Allen lose every game by 40. I can't see myself going so far as to turning them on and rooting for the Cowboys, no I'm planning on watching other games this fall and seeing the scores of the Redskins game. Slowly I'll start to follow the Ravens, I've already started in the last few years.

 

[Kevin12773]

I usually find it's better to tune out from Feb to July. I don't give a shit

 

[Stymietee]

Interesting. I'm not sure I understand that approach, but I certainly won't say it has any less merit than the "traditional fandom approach"... if there is such a thing as the "traditional fandom approach". I was about 10 years after you - about a year before the Garo Yapremian to Mike Bass completion. My biggest Skins regret is that my only memory of watching Sonny was when he dropped back to pass and fell - tearing his achilles tendon.

To be honest, it's pretty easy to do, just think about all of the angst that this organization has caused you over the years and what you can do to stop them from f'ing with you that way. To me they're going to do whatever the hell it is that they will, I honestly have no control over that. What we all have is control over how we act and react in response to their crap. Take control of their ability to elicit an visceral response from you and you immune yourself from their shit.

BTW: I know to this minute that if Sonny had played in that game two things would have happened, 1. we win that SB....and.....2. Miami doesn't go undefeated.

 

[Ruzious]

I wish I could root for the Ravens, but they stole my Cleveland Browns - the real Cleveland Browns. And they used my tax dollars to help pay for it.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I wish I could root for the Ravens, but they stole my Cleveland Browns - the real Cleveland Browns. And they used my tax dollars to help pay for it.

I know right? I hated the Ravens when they came for this reason, and the fact that Baltimore rejected the Redskins while Washington adopted the O's under similar circumstances. But gradually I softened, I would root for them in the playoffs when they played the top AFC teams. Then about a year ago I became a Ravens Sympathizer, I found myself kind of rooting for them in random games. And since they kind of stink now I feel I can slowly climb onboard without the feel of a bandwagon fan.

But this goes against everything I stand for. You pick a team at 8, you have one and only one team in each sport, and that's your team for life. Daniel Snyder has made me compromise my morals. Damn you Daniel Snyder.

 

[Stymietee]

I know right? I hated the Ravens when they came for this reason, and the fact that Baltimore rejected the Redskins while Washington adopted the O's under similar circumstances. But gradually I softened, I would root for them in the playoffs when they played the top AFC teams. Then about a year ago I became a Ravens Sympathizer, I found myself kind of rooting for them in random games. And since they kind of stink now I feel I can slowly climb onboard without the feel of a bandwagon fan.

But this goes against everything I stand for. You pick a team at 8, you have one and only one team in each sport, and that's your team for life. Daniel Snyder has made me compromise my morals. Damn you Daniel Snyder.

As you've stated there's no love lost between D.C. and B'mo, but for me to root for the Ravens I can't see it. All that farkin' purple and a need to get my passport stamped every time I crossed the border is just too much!

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Maybe because I live in the Baltimore TV market that I have softened. Or maybe my owner is such an evil person who is impossible to root for that I have been forced to make compromises.

 

[skinsdad62]

how many people on this board had RJF as a cut do to salary before all this ? if you are going to say something about a man in public then you better be able to put your name to it or simply shut the f up

RJF could very well have been cut because of what he said . but many on this board had him as being cut long before this

 

[Sportster 72]

I am about Sty's age and I guess I still have the emotional attachment but it is to the team and not the players. Sure you have your favorites but not like when you are young. Sonny and Larry Brown where it for me. Hell I wore Larry's number in HS.

At this age guys just become guys and you want guys who can play. The other thing at this age is you hoping for one more good run. LOL

I do think it is hard being a fan under this owner. He makes it hard. But still I root for the uniform. Times have changed, I see so many people wearing so many different teams colors. You never saw that when I was young .... except for Cowboy fans. I miss the days when the Skins were good and most of the city were pulling for them.

 

[duke1861]

I am about Sty's age and I guess I still have the emotional attachment but it is to the team and not the players. Sure you have your favorites but not like when you are young. Sonny and Larry Brown where it for me. Hell I wore Larry's number in HS.

At this age guys just become guys and you want guys who can play. The other thing at this age is you hoping for one more good run. LOL

I do think it is hard being a fan under this owner. He makes it hard. But still I root for the uniform. Times have changed, I see so many people wearing so many different teams colors. You never saw that when I was young .... except for Cowboy fans. I miss the days when the Skins were good and most of the city were pulling for them.

If Snyder were a real fan he would realize that he needs to but out of the affairs of the team or just sell the team. Surely he knows that his regime has been a disaster.

 

[Sportster 72]

Not saying it is a good thing but the league is full of bad owners.

 

[duke1861]

Not saying it is a good thing but the league is full of bad owners.

Agreed. I just want them to be the owners of other teams...not mine.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

how many people on this board had RJF as a cut do to salary before all this ? if you are going to say something about a man in public then you better be able to put your name to it or simply shut the f up

RJF could very well have been cut because of what he said . but many on this board had him as being cut long before this

Message board posters do not make roster moves. As you just said he may have been cut for what he said, which is why it makes your earlier line that "you better be able to put your name to it" a compete contradiction to what you said in the next paragraph.

Not sure why you can't admit this but it's a fact: when you speak out you leave yourself vulnerable to this possibility.. That is why people make anonymous comments and that does not mean unnamed sources should be instantly dismissed. It's really a very simple thing to understand.

 

[skinsdad62]

Message board posters do not make roster moves. As you just said he may have been cut for what he said, which is why it makes your earlier line that "you better be able to put your name to it" a compete contradiction to what you said in the next paragraph.

Not sure why you can't admit this but it's a fact: when you speak out you leave yourself vulnerable to this possibility.. That is why people make anonymous comments and that does not mean unnamed sources should be instantly dismissed. It's really a very simple thing to understand.

Then simply be quiet or accept the consequences really simple to understand

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Then simply be quiet or accept the consequences really simple to understand

Or let the story out but protect your identity. The concept of "protect your sources" is as old as journalism, a concept that apparently everyone but you understands. This is amazing to me that you still don't get it, has anyone agreed with your position? Anyone?

 

[skinsdad62]

And I have the right to question UN named sources and their. Motives period I won't changed

 

[Krusheasy]

i placed a @SportsHoopla Bookie bet on the over 140 for the MTSU vs Butler game

Score was 74 to 65 ... 20 seconds left.

All i needed was them to foul, go to the line, and knock down two shots.

But no ... they let them dribble out the clock

 

[Krusheasy]