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Great catch, you pass the class. The only Philip I know with one L is Philip Rivers, but I am sure there are more.

Just thought of another Philip Donaldson.

Phillip McCrack
 

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While the topic is upon us.


Let’s all practice Philip Lindsay’s last name.

Lindsay

“a” between s and y, not an E.

That’s it for today! :dhd::dhd:


I think Phlip Linsy is going to do great with McMarlin Gorvinn taking some of the load off of him.
 

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Are we second guessing Lindsays ability to carry the load? He didn’t really show any typical signs of slowing down. He carried the load in college. He is also similar size to portis when he came out and he turned out to be the whole offense. Maybe he could?
 

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Are we second guessing Lindsays ability to carry the load? He didn’t really show any typical signs of slowing down. He carried the load in college. He is also similar size to portis when he came out and he turned out to be the whole offense. Maybe he could?

Much different carrying the load from college to NFL level. Pac 12 vs NFL defenses.

Reason Lindsay doesn’t break down is because we have been smart with his workload by not giving him too much.

Lindsay can have an occasional heavy workload but you don’t want him carrying the ball 20-25 times every game.

I think some people are just way too sensitive about the Gordon signing. They find it defensive because they think it means a lack of respect for Lindsey and what he can do. I think people need to start looking at it from a team basis. We want to run the ball as effective as we can. We need two good running backs to do that. This opens up our pass game and controlling the clock, this is what Fangio wants to build with a good defense.

People need to stop focusing on the individual aspect of this move and more about how it makes us a much better team and lines up with what we want to do on offense. Need to start looking at this in terms of how it will help Lindsay and the Broncos offense.

Portis was 5’11” 210 coming out?

Lindsay 5’8” / 190?


The Redskins wore Portis down.
 

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Are we second guessing Lindsays ability to carry the load? He didn’t really show any typical signs of slowing down. He carried the load in college. He is also similar size to portis when he came out and he turned out to be the whole offense. Maybe he could?

Lindsay got overused and beat up by CU's use of him (same thing happened to Laviska Shenault) - which his why is dynamism didn't show up until he got on the Broncos.
 

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Much different carrying the load from college to NFL level. Pac 12 vs NFL defenses.

Reason Lindsay doesn’t break down is because we have been smart with his workload by not giving him too much.

Lindsay can have an occasional heavy workload but you don’t want him carrying the ball 20-25 times every game.

I think some people are just way too sensitive about the Gordon signing. They find it defensive because they think it means a lack of respect for Lindsey and what he can do. I think people need to start looking at it from a team basis. We want to run the ball as effective as we can. We need two good running backs to do that. This opens up our pass game and controlling the clock, this is what Fangio wants to build with a good defense.

People need to stop focusing on the individual aspect of this move and more about how it makes us a much better team and lines up with what we want to do on offense. Need to start looking at this in terms of how it will help Lindsay and the Broncos offense.

Portis was 5’11” 210 coming out?

Lindsay 5’8” / 190?


The Redskins wore Portis down.

My issue with the Gordon signing is the contract, when we could have drafted a guy to be in the same role as Melvin with a far smaller contract.

At this point it is water under the bridge, and Gordon does bring a skill that Lindsay is not the best at, catching passes. Lindsay is not the worst in RB at catching passes, but he has room for improvement. I sure hope we see Gordon and Lindsay on the field at the same time.
 

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My issue with the Gordon signing is the contract, when we could have drafted a guy to be in the same role as Melvin with a far smaller contract.

At this point it is water under the bridge, and Gordon does bring a skill that Lindsay is not the best at, catching passes. Lindsay is not the worst in RB at catching passes, but he has room for improvement. I sure hope we see Gordon and Lindsay on the field at the same time.

This and I really don't like his running stats what so ever.
 

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Lindsay got overused and beat up by CU's use of him (same thing happened to Laviska Shenault) - which his why is dynamism didn't show up until he got on the Broncos.


THIS.
 

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My issue with the Gordon signing is the contract, when we could have drafted a guy to be in the same role as Melvin with a far smaller contract.

At this point it is water under the bridge, and Gordon does bring a skill that Lindsay is not the best at, catching passes. Lindsay is not the worst in RB at catching passes, but he has room for improvement. I sure hope we see Gordon and Lindsay on the field at the same time.

We also drafted Paxton Lynch to be our next QB, it doesn't mean that turned out as planned. Pretty evident the coaching staff isn't as high on Freeman as they were when we drafted him.

I still have yet to see someone give me a reason why Melvin Gordon is a bad signing from a on the field standpoint. Other then one person trying to act lke his 4.0 career YPC is a bad thing. It's like some people haven't seen him play since he entered the NFL.

I get the money part, if that is your issue, fine. If you want to wear Lindsay down then whateves.. If you wanted to draft another RB early, fine... If you were content with Freeman, then fine. But nobody should be hiding the fact that Melvin Gordon has been a very good RB in the NFL thus far. I get it's the money part from you JD.

Again. No RB has broken more tackles then Melvin Gordon in a 3 year span, throw that in with a solid 4.0 YPC, a good rec out of the backfield and a guy with great vision who can find the EZ. I see a lot of complaining but no breakdown other then someone hating him for no reason other then taking carries away from our beloved Phillip Linsday. (with an "A") ;)

Also, remember.. This is a 2 year contract, not a 5 year. We aren't locked in long term.
 

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Either way back to Lock.

I love his leadership skills and our players rally around him. We haven’t had a quarterback players have believed in since Manning.
 

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Look DC you are right most of the time. you may be right this time. All the same, we overpaid!

IMO Freeman would have worked 10 to 15 pounds lighter. and drafted an RB.

If we gave incentives contract that worked up to 6 mill I might not be pissed but I still don't like his stats what so ever
We also drafted Paxton Lynch to be our next QB, it doesn't mean that turned out as planned. Pretty evident the coaching staff isn't as high on Freeman as they were when we drafted him.

I still have yet to see someone give me a reason why Melvin Gordon is a bad signing from a on the field standpoint. Other then one person trying to act lke his 4.0 career YPC is a bad thing. It's like some people haven't seen him play since he entered the NFL.

I get the money part, if that is your issue, fine. If you want to wear Lindsay down then whateves.. If you wanted to draft another RB early, fine... If you were content with Freeman, then fine. But nobody should be hiding the fact that Melvin Gordon has been a very good RB in the NFL thus far. I get it's the money part from you JD.

Again. No RB has broken more tackles then Melvin Gordon in a 3 year span, throw that in with a solid 4.0 YPC, a good rec out of the backfield and a guy with great vision who can find the EZ. I see a lot of complaining but no breakdown other then someone hating him for no reason other then taking carries away from our beloved Phillip Linsday. (with an "A") ;)

Also, remember.. This is a 2 year contract, not a 5 year. We aren't locked in long term.

4.0 :pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:
 

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There is a consensus - it appears - that the Gordon contract was too rich. I like the move and I am a very big Lindsay fan.
 

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It is what it is Crash.

I like it- You don’t.

The only thing that I hate to see is you rooting for a player from your own team to fail and get cut in camp which won’t happen unless he does something stupid.
Just hate to see a fan root for his own team to fail.
 

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It is what it is Crash.

I like it- You don’t.

The only thing that I hate to see is you rooting for a player from your own team to fail and get cut in camp which won’t happen unless he does something stupid.
Just hate to see a fan root for his own team to fail.

I am rooting for Freeman to show up 215 and tiger eye that will be 28 pounds lighter And dominate so we don't have to pay 3.8 yards a carry $8 million a year! he is not worth half of that contract!

LA was smart to send that poser down the road! everyone made fun of him when he held out . He got shown up by a bum.:L
 

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Either way back to Lock.

I love his leadership skills and our players rally around him. We haven’t had a quarterback players have believed in since Manning.
The newer offense should help delay the printing of the “book” on Lock other teams will be looking at. The big test will be how he adapts when defenses finally get a good feel for how he plays.
 

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Gordon does avg 4.0 YPC in his career though. That is a fact. Not sure how many times I have to tell you that. Your only reason for not wanting to sign Gordon is because he held out and because he averaged an incorrect career YPC.

Why not just admit that you wanted Phillip Lindsay and Royce Freeman in the backfield and save money at RB like Jess does? There is nothing wrong with that opinion. Instead you attack a guy like he is some worthless criminal and name call him. (scarecrow)

Shown up by a bum? Are you calling Austin Ekeler a bum or what is the meaning behind that comment?

The Chargers didn’t send Gordon anywhere. He was an UFA.

A lot of people agreed with Gordon’s decision to hold out, many teammates supported him. He only sat out 4 games. Le’Veon Bell sat out a season. You might be surprised at how much teammates support each other during holdouts because they all understand from a personal level. I am mot saying he was smart or dumb to holdout but I do understand it. Gordon himself said he wish he hadn’t. I respect a player who isn’t afraid to admit that he wasn’t happy with his decision after the fact. Most people wouldn’t admit that. Gordon has always been classy.

I respect the not wanting to pay him 8m aspect if that is the route you wanna go but I do have a hard time with the name calling and untrue facts as the reason for not wanting to sign him. That is all I want to say about that.

I am rooting for Royce Freeman as well.
 
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