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If they trade him or let him go, he's a $49M dead cap hit, with this being his final year of his present contract.
What are the chances of anyone picking up that sour pickle?
 

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Everyone is trying to steal all the attention from the Super Bowl......................................

Would you trade a two for the 29 year old??

 

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Im not hell bent on Samuel, would rather have Higgins or no WR at all
Samuel offers a bit more than your typical WR. His size and speed allows him to do the reverse a bit quicker and get beyond the line of scrimmage at a deeper angle. That and he's what 6'3"? He's bigger and faster than anyone presently on the Patriots except Pop, speed-wise. I'd take him over Bourne and Polk in a heartbeat. I wouldn't give up anything more than a fourth round pick.
 

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Everyone is trying to steal all the attention from the Super Bowl......................................

Would you trade a two for the 29 year old??
Sure, here you go.


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Samuel offers a bit more than your typical WR. His size and speed allows him to do the reverse a bit quicker and get beyond the line of scrimmage at a deeper angle. That and he's what 6'3"? He's bigger and faster than anyone presently on the Patriots except Pop, speed-wise. I'd take him over Bourne and Polk in a heartbeat. I wouldn't give up anything more than a fourth round pick.
Yeah all that being said, I still have no interest. And he is 6' where did you get 6'3"? There is a reason his 2024 numbers were subpar, what that reason is who knows?
"Samuel has spent his entire six-season career with the 49ers. Despite missing only two games due to injury in 2024, he was beginning to have a down year in terms of production. He secured 670 receiving yards, three touchdowns, 136 rushing yards, and one touchdown in 2024.

This production is a significant drop for Samuel, who secured 892 receiving yards, seven touchdowns, 225 rushing yards, and five touchdowns."
 

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"Samuel has spent his entire six-season career with the 49ers. Despite missing only two games due to injury in 2024, he was beginning to have a down year in terms of production. He secured 670 receiving yards, three touchdowns, 136 rushing yards, and one touchdown in 2024.

This production is a significant drop for Samuel, who secured 892 receiving yards, seven touchdowns, 225 rushing yards, and five touchdowns."
Not trying to start an argument..............................."Who on the Patriots equaled his production?"
 

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Not trying to start an argument..............................."Who on the Patriots equaled his production?"
The Patriots problems are bigger than Debo Samuel, which is why in part I am averse to signing him.

1. Repair the O line. This goes a long way in the success of both the run game and the pass game.

2. As I said there is a reason he fell of in SF.

3. If he's cheap and we give up no more than a 4th, I would be okay with it, I just do not think he needs to be anywhere near our highest priority.
 

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The Patriots problems are bigger than Debo Samuel, which is why in part I am averse to signing him.

1. Repair the O line. This goes a long way in the success of both the run game and the pass game.

2. As I said there is a reason he fell of in SF.

3. If he's cheap and we give up no more than a 4th, I would be okay with it, I just do not think he needs to be anywhere near our highest priority.
I don't disagree. BUT, trading a fourth for him might help the Patriots in securing a very good OL in free agency and the draft.

Right now, the Patriots don't have a strong argument to convince better than average players to come to Foxboro. We've discussed all of the negatives from an older stadium, taxes and undesirable weather, but they will have hard time selling Maye as an answer. Vrabel may be a similar draw like BB. He does have a bunch of guys that played for him in Tenn. that have said that they hope he looks their way.

Free Agency is where we will see what the players in the NFL think of Vrabel and the Patriots. If they think it's great new start and want to be onboard, we all might be very surprised. If they think it will suck, we'll be bitching because they couldn't get a right guard with six knee surgeries to sign.
 
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