New Pr/KR?

[deanpet21]

cartyer avgd 17 offensive snaps per game dean

b/c of injury. dude are you serious?

 

[skinsdad62]

b/c of injury. dude are you serious?

not at the beginning of the year dude

 

[skinsdad62]

dean you just cant admit i was right about carter . it doesnt matter about injuries , what does matter is that when called upon he could contribute on offense . if he couldnt he would have been cut and we would use johnson in that role

same thing comes into play here with erikson , he will have to have the ability to contribute on offense if called upon . now he may not be called upon but he will need to

carter showed that in preseason

 

[deanpet21]

dean you just cant admit i was right about carter . it doesnt matter about injuries , what does matter is that when called upon he could contribute on offense . if he couldnt he would have been cut and we would use johnson in that role

same thing comes into play here with erikson , he will have to have the ability to contribute on offense if called upon . now he may not be called upon but he will need to

carter showed that in preseason

You are not right. Everyone knew Carter was brought here to be a returner. He showed that he was the best returner in camp so he earned a spot. Same thing with Erikson. If he wins the job on returns he will get a spot no matter what kind of WR he is. There are guys on teams just b/c of there special team ability not b/c of the position they play.

Perfect example is Apke. He is on the team b/c he is a good gunner not a good CB\S. They made a spot for him b/c of his special teams ability not position ability.

 

[Stymietee]

I meant they are not going to sign an Odell Beckham to challenge for a top WR spot. I did mention they could bring in a pr/kr who happens to play WR. Its common sense. You think we still need WR help which is false. Erickson only plays WR if there are multiple injuries at the current WR core.

Speaking of common sense...

So, if a player like D. Hopkins got released, absolutely wanted to come here, and Washington absolutely loved the idea of signing him, YOU, are of the mindset that such an upgrade isn't necessary???? Wow I would love to see any stats or other information/ evidence that has you believing that the Commanders WR core is the best in the league, Hell, I'd settle for top 15!!

However, to be fair to you... why exactly do you keep insisting that Washington doesn't need WR help?? ((meaning upgrades)

 

[skinsdad62]

You are not right. Everyone knew Carter was brought here to be a returner. He showed that he was the best returner in camp so he earned a spot. Same thing with Erikson. If he wins the job on returns he will get a spot no matter what kind of WR he is. There are guys on teams just b/c of there special team ability not b/c of the position they play.

Perfect example is Apke. He is on the team b/c he is a good gunner not a good CB\S. They made a spot for him b/c of his special teams ability not position ability.

and he will be replaced as soon as a guy can be found because he cant contribute on defense

 

[skinsdad62]

maybe dean you should open your eyes to current trends in the NFL

trend one is versatility, you have to do multiple things you cant be just a blocker or a gunner or a returner

trend 2 is FB 's are being phased out ., why because the te/hb has taken over because they do multiple things

mlb is being phased out because classic mlbs cant cover todays te's and backs

wr's are at a higher premium and you cant carry wrs who cant produce in an offense

rbs have to do multiple things in the offense

 

[Stymietee]

maybe dean you should open your eyes to current trends in the NFL

trend one is versatility, you have to do multiple things you cant be just a blocker or a gunner or a returner

trend 2 is FB 's are being phased out ., why because the te/hb has taken over because they do multiple things

mlb is being phased out because classic mlbs cant cover todays te's and backs

wr's are at a higher premium and you cant carry wrs who cant produce in an offense

rbs have to do multiple things in the offense

Let me add one other thing... WRs are now getting paid. Subtract this added expenditure to you cap and you're either going to have to pay these players or continue to draft equal or better talent just to keep up!

 

[skinsdad62]

Let me add one other thing... WRs are now getting paid. Subtract this added expenditure to you cap and you're either going to have to pay these players or continue to draft equal or better talent just to keep up!

exactly and guys like brown have to come in and produce and your returner cant just be a returner because of injuries and cap space

 

[deanpet21]

and he will be replaced as soon as a guy can be found because he cant contribute on defense

Nonsense. I just proved my point they kept Apke on the team b/c of his ST ability for years. Same thing with Everett, he was kept on this team b/c of his ST ability for years. Not b/c they were contributing at their positions.

 

[deanpet21]

Speaking of common sense...

So, if a player like D. Hopkins got released, absolutely wanted to come here, and Washington absolutely loved the idea of signing him, YOU, are of the mindset that such an upgrade isn't necessary???? Wow I would love to see any stats or other information/ evidence that has you believing that the Commanders WR core is the best in the league, Hell, I'd settle for top 15!!

However, to be fair to you... why exactly do you keep insisting that Washington doesn't need WR help?? ((meaning upgrades)

Stupid example. We dont need more WR help. You wont see big time WR;s in Fa come here right now, b/c we dont need the help. The team disagrees with you on needed a QB and WR like you always proclaimed. You are a hater. Just admit it. Anything this team does you will take the negative apprach.

 

[skinsdad62]

Nonsense. I just proved my point they kept Apke on the team b/c of his ST ability for years. Same thing with Everett, he was kept on this team b/c of his ST ability for years. Not b/c they were contributing at their positions.

everrette played in our defense and again the trend in the NFL is being able to contribute on defense or offense and not solely be a specialist

 

[skinsdad62]

Stupid example. We dont need more WR help. You wont see big time WR;s in Fa come here right now, b/c we dont need the help. The team disagrees with you on needed a QB and WR like you always proclaimed. You are a hater. Just admit it. Anything this team does you will take the negative apprach.

you arent walking away from a hopkins or OBJ

 

[deanpet21]

everrette played in our defense and again the trend in the NFL is being able to contribute on defense or offense and not solely be a specialist

They were both kept on the team b/c of the ST ability not positions. I dont care what the trend it. This is what happened to both these players.

 

[deanpet21]

you arent walking away from a hopkins or OBJ

Yes they are b/c of money, suspension and OBj is a headcase.

 

[skinsdad62]

They were both kept on the team b/c of the ST ability not positions. I dont care what the trend it. This is what happened to both these players.

i disagree , they were kept for special teams AND their ability to contribute on defense or offense

 

[skinsdad62]

Yes they are b/c of money, suspension and OBj is a headcase.

no you wouldnt because every time we get a player to you he is the next coming

 

[deanpet21]

i disagree , they were kept for special teams AND their ability to contribute on defense or offense

Mainly there special teams ability. They are not confident at all in Apke at Safety. You are trying to tell me that Carter made the team as a WR not as returner. That is bs. He made the team as a returner who can play WR b/c of injury which exactly happened. Carter wasnt brought in to be a WR for this team. He was an emergency WR. Teams in the draft, draft guys in the late rounds just to be special teams guys. Not b/c of there position status. You never heard that? They didn't make the team b/c they were good at their positions, they made the team b/c they excel on Special Teams.

 

[skinsdad62]

Mainly there special teams ability. They are not confident at all in Apke at Safety. You are trying to tell me that Carter made the team as a WR not as returner. That is bs. He made the team as a returner who can play WR b/c of injury which exactly happened. Carter wasnt brought in to be a WR for this team. He was an emergency WR. Teams in the draft, draft guys in the late rounds just to be special teams guys. Not b/c of there position status. You never heard that? They didn't make the team b/c they were good at their positions, they made the team b/c they excel on Special Teams.

they moved apke to CB . and no i am not telling you he made the team as solely as a wr . so put aside your absolutism aside and try to understand simple things .

he made the team because he could ALSO contribute on offense . in todays NFL kick returns are rare and virtually anyone can do it and even the best rarely avg more then 25 yds per return . he avgd 17 snaps per game on offense BEFORE injuries and regardless if you want to claim it was an EMERGENCY role the fact still remains in preseason they ran plays for him in the OFFENSE

if he couldnt have contributed on OFFENSE AS WELL AS RETURN kicks he would have and should have been cut

apke should have long since been cut but they tried him at CB last year not safety to see if they could get more use out of him . below are his career stats on DEFENSE , something he has to do if he is to stay on an NFL roster

	Games	Def Interceptions	Fumbles		Tackles
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Int	Yds	TD	Lng	PD	FF	Fmb	FR	Yds	TD	Sk	Comb	Solo	Ast	TFL	QBHits	Sfty	AV
2018	23	WAS		30	2	0											0.0	1	1	0	0	0		0
2019	24	WAS		30	15	2	1	33	0	33	2						0.0	26	18	8	2	0		1
2020	25	WAS	FS	30	16	7	0	0	0	0	2						0.0	35	25	10	0	0		4
2021	26	WAS		30	17	0						0	0	1	0	0	0.0	6	5	1	0	0		1
Career				50	9	1	33	0	33	4	0	0	1	0	0	0.0	68	49	19	2	0		6

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[skinsdad62]

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these are deshazor evererttes CAREER DEFENSIVE SNAPS , he contributed on defense even though it wasnt his PRIMARY task

	Games	Def Interceptions	Fumbles		Tackles
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Int	Yds	TD	Lng	PD	FF	Fmb	FR	Yds	TD	Sk	Comb	Solo	Ast	TFL	QBHits	Sfty	AV
2015	23	WAS		22	11	0											0.0	16	12	4	0	0		1
2016	24	WAS		22	16	0	1	0	0	0	1						0.0	12	12	0	0	0		1
2017	25	WAS	SS	22	14	8	0	0	0	0	5	1					0.0	62	41	21	0	1		3
2018	26	WAS		22	16	3	1	24	0	24	1						0.0	26	17	9	2	0		2
2019	27	WAS		22	7	0											0.0	13	9	4	0	0		0
2020	28	WAS	fs	22	11	6	0	0	0	0	4	1					0.0	31	23	8	0	0		3
2021	29	WAS		22	14	0											0.0	10	5	5	0	0		1
Career				89	17	2	24	0	24	11	2	0	0	0	0	0.0	170	119	51