NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[fightinfunbags]

Now do this again for Miami...

Not sure why a Bills fan would be talking this shit. They have the same issue. The only good team they’ve beaten is the Dolphins. I guess somebody had to win that game.

 

[bksballer89]

Easy to say, but when you're down 21-7, game plans shift.

Josh Allen is the Bills offense, you're never going to see them go really run heavy. They've leaned harder on the short passing game (RBs and Kincaid mostly).

That said, I think OC Ken Dorsey's seat has to be getting warm. Not in season, but I could see them making a change for 2024.

You make a lot of excuses for your team lol. Down 2 tds at half doesn't mean you say fuck the run. The bills do not like running the ball and they will never win a superbowl with this staff until that changes.

Down 21-10 in the 3rd

First drive- 10 passes and 1 cook run
Second drive- 3 passes and 0 runs
Third drive- 5 passes, 3 josh allen runs, and 1 run to cook

so while down 21-10 in the 2nd half before they needed to score quickly, they passed 18 times and gave cook 2 carries

 

[shopson67]

Never said he was going to have a big role....LOL.

He's a practice squad player. Without a rash of injuries, he's not active. He has familiarity with the system, so at least there's some validity as an emergency player.

 

[fightinfunbags]

You make a lot of excuses for your team lol. Down 2 tds at half doesn't mean you say fuck the run. The bills do not like running the ball and they will never win a superbowl with this staff until that changes.

Down 21-10 in the 3rd

First drive- 10 passes and 1 cook run
Second drive- 3 passes and 0 runs
Third drive- 5 passes, 3 josh allen runs, and 1 run to cook

so while down 21-10 in the 2nd half before they needed to score quickly, they passed 18 times and gave cook 2 carries

Yep. It’s unsustainable. The best teams need to present a balance. I’m not talking 50/50. I’m talking about presenting stuff in both the run and pass game that teams have to worry about. The Bills feel so uncomfortable running the ball that when they’re on the road vs the 28th ranked run D in the league, they can’t even take advantage of that matchup.

 

[shopson67]

Not sure why a Bills fan would be talking this shit. They have the same issue. The only good team they’ve beaten is the Dolphins. I guess somebody had to win that game.

48-20 is not a "someone had to win that game" score. I don't think the Bills are close to elite right now, which is abundantly clear.

The Dolphins have yet to beat a team with more than 3 wins (maybe the Chargers can change that tonight) though 8/9 weeks. At least the Bills beat these mighty Dolphins handily.

 

[trojanfan12]

You make a lot of excuses for your team lol. Down 2 tds at half doesn't mean you say fuck the run. The bills do not like running the ball and they will never win a superbowl with this staff until that changes.

Down 21-10 in the 3rd

First drive- 10 passes and 1 cook run
Second drive- 3 passes and 0 runs
Third drive- 5 passes, 3 josh allen runs, and 1 run to cook

so while down 21-10 in the 2nd half before they needed to score quickly, they passed 18 times and gave cook 2 carries

Yeah, the running game doesn't have to be the main focus of an offense. They just have to run the ball enough to keep the defense honest. Pass rushes get a lot easier when the defense can ignore the run.

 

[bksballer89]

Yeah, the running game doesn't have to be the main focus of an offense. They just have to run the ball enough to keep the defense honest. Pass rushes get a lot easier when the defense can ignore the run.

Running backs vs cincy this yr

Chubb-106
Ravens 178 as a committee
They shut down the rams
Henry- 122
Cards- 2 backs had 91 yards on 16 carries. Ran for 142 as a team on 22 carries
Seahawks- Contained Walker
49ers- 113 on 23 carries

 

[shopson67]

You make a lot of excuses for your team lol. Down 2 tds at half doesn't mean you say fuck the run. The bills do not like running the ball and they will never win a superbowl with this staff until that changes.

Down 21-10 in the 3rd

First drive- 10 passes and 1 cook run
Second drive- 3 passes and 0 runs
Third drive- 5 passes, 3 josh allen runs, and 1 run to cook

so while down 21-10 in the 2nd half before they needed to score quickly, they passed 18 times and gave cook 2 carries

Not excuses, reasons. They have had many games where they ran more (35 times vs Vegas, 33 vs the Commies, 29 vs Miami, 29 vs the Giants, 24 vs the Pats, 26 vs the Bucs). You're basing the whole season on the most recent game. Tough to run on the Jets. The two other games they didn't were in London vs the Jags and last night. They're 12th in the league in ypc and they're never going to be a run leaning team, but they've made it a point this year to run when they have a lead to shorten the game. Versus the Jags and Bengals the OC didn't feel comfortable shortening the game in what at least started as a potentially high scoring games and with early deficits.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Never said he was going to have a big role....LOL.

Well then why did you announce his signing like it was something special. He's just a benchwarmer

 

[bksballer89]

Not excuses, reasons. They have had many games where they ran more (35 times vs Vegas, 33 vs the Commies, 29 vs Miami, 29 vs the Giants, 24 vs the Pats, 26 vs the Bucs). You're basing the whole season on the most recent game. Tough to run on the Jets. The two other games they didn't were in London vs the Jags and last night. They're 12th in the league in ypc and they're never going to be a run leaning team, but they've made it a point this year to run when they have a lead to shorten the game. Versus the Jags and Bengals the OC didn't feel comfortable shortening the game in what at least started as a potentially high scoring games and with early deficits.

Not reading the whole essay but all I'll say 4 of the 5 games you mentioned were wins with 3 being blowouts. So yes they run when shit going nice and smooth but soon as things get rocky and if they dare fall behind 2 possessions then its f the run. In the pats game that you mentioned, the backs had 18 carries to allen 41 passes.

I actually really like the bills and hope them or the ravens win the superbowl assuming the saints dont but the lack of commitment to the run is a major problem

 

[Shanemansj13]

Running backs vs cincy this yr

Chubb-106
Ravens 178 as a committee
They shut down the rams
Henry- 122
Cards- 2 backs had 91 yards on 16 carries. Ran for 142 as a team on 22 carries
Seahawks- Contained Walker
49ers- 113 on 23 carries

You need to run the ball against Cincy to keep the ball out of Burrow's hands. If you can't run the ball against Cincy they are extremely difficult to beat

 

[shopson67]

Not reading the whole essay but all I'll say 4 of the 5 games you mentioned were wins with 3 being blowouts. So yes they run when shit going nice and smooth but soon as things get rocky and if they dare fall behind 2 possessions then its f the run. In the pats game that you mentioned, the backs had 18 carries to allen 41 passes.

I actually really like the bills and hope them or the ravens win the superbowl assuming the saints dont but the lack of commitment to the run is a major problem

So you won't read a few sentences, but you'll essentially rewrite what I said lol.

Josh's runs count, they are a key part of the rushing game via the RPO.

I also said that their OC is getting some deserved fire. However, a blanket "they don't run enough" is a flawed statement, clearly.

 

[shopson67]

You need to run the ball against Cincy to keep the ball out of Burrow's hands. If you can't run the ball against Cincy they are extremely difficult to beat

Without that fumble by Kincaid deep in Bengals territory, are we even discussing this today?

 

[DJ Fieri]

Well then why did you announce his signing like it was something special. He's just a benchwarmer

I made a comment he signed. Please point out where I said it was special.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Without that fumble by Kincaid deep in Bengals territory, are we even discussing this today?

No guarantee Buffalo wins

 

[shopson67]

No guarantee Buffalo wins

No guarantee they don't

 

[bksballer89]

So you won't read a few sentences, but you'll essentially rewrite what I said lol.

Josh's runs count, they are a key part of the rushing game via the RPO.

I also said that their OC is getting some deserved fire. However, a blanket "they don't run enough" is a flawed statement, clearly.

Lol im at work so try to not read essays.

They dont know how to stay committed to the run in losses

Jets-41 passes to 16 runs
Jags-40 passes to 10 runs
Pats- 41 passes to 17 runs
Cincy- 38 passes to 8 runs

Im only including the runs to the actual backs because i dont watch enough bills games to differentiate with the josh attempts to know how many are designed runs and how many are qb scrambles

 

[shopson67]

Lol im at work so try to not read essays.

They dont know how to stay committed to the run in losses

Jets-41 passes to 16 runs
Jags-40 passes to 10 runs
Pats- 41 passes to 17 runs
Cincy- 38 passes to 8 runs

Im only including the runs to the actual backs because i dont watch enough bills games to differentiate with the josh attempts to know how many are designed runs and how many are qb scrambles

Scrambles count via the PRO. The threat of that run changes the coverage. Otherwise, you're just leaning into your bias on this.

As I noted, Jets are tough to run on and that was week 1. Jags game was a mess all around. Their recent history vs Cinci is to fall behind quick and struggle to keep up, so they didn't run enough.

If 4 sentences is an essay, I'm guessing you didn't do well in your English classes growing up.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Looking forward to this Chargers vs Jets game tonight.

 

[bksballer89]

Scrambles count via the PRO. The threat of that run changes the coverage. Otherwise, you're just leaning into your bias on this.

As I noted, Jets are tough to run on and that was week 1. Jags game was a mess all around. Their recent history vs Cinci is to fall behind quick and struggle to keep up, so they didn't run enough.

If 4 sentences is an essay, I'm guessing you didn't do well in your English classes growing up.

I failed all of them