NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[tlance]

Outside of Eric Reid, I don't see anything that Gruden said that would've lost the locker room. He didn't exactly pull an Urban there.

I'm not agreeing with Gruden's use of the word "fa**ot" and other things he's said. But let's be real, the NFL is not exactly full of stand up citizens. Some of these guys are accepted into locker rooms, even after domestic charges as well as other morally questionable crimes.

Eric Reid was the deal breaker IMO.

 

[tlance]

Saying stupid shit shouldn't be a fire-able offense. Now, if they can prove that someone was held back, treated differently or didn't get a job because of those statements, now you have an argument. 99% of people could be fired otherwise.

I would love for someone to refuse to apologize for improper remarks. It's about the only thing I respect about Kyrie these days. He's sticking to his guns, even though they don't have firing pins.

It totally depends on the position the person holds.

In many cases, like Gruden’s, the stupid stuff a person says could undermine their ability to lead people in their charge.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Fournette 75 + rush yards +145
Ertz anytime TD +200
Brady 3+TDs and Bucs win + 275
Ertz o 44.5 receiving yards
Bucs -6.5
Bucs team total over 30.5

2-4 on these guys. But made money because I was on the right side of S Alabama and Memphis TT o 34.5

Brady 3 TDs should have hit and if Jalen Hurts wasn’t some mongoloid masquerading as an NFL QB game script would have had me hit the others. I hate it when I’m right. Jalen Hurts is straight trash.

 

[bksballer89]

2-4 on these guys. But made money because I was on the right side of S Alabama and Memphis TT o 34.5

Brady 3 TDs should have hit and if Jalen Hurts wasn’t some mongoloid masquerading as an NFL QB game script would have had me hit the others. I hate it when I’m right. Jalen Hurts is straight trash.

I took the ertz td and playoffs lenny yards on a parlay. Good thoughts

 

[DJ]

Dodgers vs a barely .500 Braves team....

 

[DJ]

Regarding Mayfield and not throwing to OBJ.....3 targets? I understand wanting to spread the ball around, but that's ridiculous.

He's a weapon and that's just unreal.

 

[trojanfan12]

Dodgers vs a barely .500 Braves team....

Dodgers better not buy into that. This team was within 1 win of taking the Dodgers out last year.

 

[trojanfan12]

Regarding Mayfield and not throwing to OBJ.....3 targets? I understand wanting to spread the ball around, but that's ridiculous.

He's a weapon and that's just unreal.

I don't think he's quite the weapon he used to be and Baker needs to throw the ball to whoever is open.

 

[bksballer89]

I don't think he's quite the weapon he used to be and Baker needs to throw the ball to whoever is open.

Exactly. Plus they scored 42 points. When you start insisting you have to get this player such and such targets is when more turnovers likely happen. They only scored 42 points that game so targeting Odell 3x wasn't a problem

 

[trojanfan12]

Exactly. Plus they scored 42 points. When you start insisting you have to get this player such and such targets is when more turnovers likely happen. They only scored 42 points that game so targeting Odell 3x wasn't a problem

Yeah, like I said yesterday, maybe you try to force a couple downfield to him during the 2 minute drill (Baker checked down too many times), but outside of that...get the ball to the open guy.

 

[DJ]

Exactly. Plus they scored 42 points. When you start insisting you have to get this player such and such targets is when more turnovers likely happen. They only scored 42 points that game so targeting Odell 3x wasn't a problem

But, coach Step trusted the defense more than Mayfield and the offense in that game.

 

[DJ]

Regarding Gruden calling the plays for the Raiders.....

"No two coaches will ever call a game the exact same way, but beyond that, the Raiders could dabble in some personnel and formation alterations. Defensive coordinator Gus Bradley praised Olson’s creativity with different personnel groupings, and tight end Darren Waller hinted that the Raiders could simplify things going forward.

“Complex” was the word most associated with Gruden’s system, and though its tenets will remain, Olson could dial the intricacies down.

“I’m excited with who we’ve got,” Waller said. “I believe in Olly. I believe he gives us a chance to win.”

Subtle changes could be in store as Olson replaces Gruden as Raiders’ play-caller

Outside uncertainty has existed for the last four seasons on the exact role of Raiders assistant Greg Olson. He held the traditional offensive coordinator title but did so without holding the job’s usual top responsibility, play-calling, as now former coach Jon Gruden handled those duties...

lasvegassun.com

 

[DJ]

I don't think he's quite the weapon he used to be and Baker needs to throw the ball to whoever is open.

Oh, I agree.....and I'm not saying he needs to target him 10-12 times a game.

But, 3 freaking targets is basically utilizing him as a decoy.....6-7 at least IMO.

3 players got twice as many targets and Higgins got 5 targets.

Chargers 47-42 Browns (Oct 10, 2021) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Los Angeles Chargers vs. Cleveland Browns NFL game from October 10, 2021 on ESPN. Includes all passing, rushing and receiving stats.

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[DJ]

Zach Ertz traded to the Cards for a 5th rounder.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Exactly. Plus they scored 42 points. When you start insisting you have to get this player such and such targets is when more turnovers likely happen. They only scored 42 points that game so targeting Odell 3x wasn't a problem

If Odell averages 3 targets were game and they score 42/game I am perfectly fine with him being a decoy. Baker-Odell wasn't the problem, it was their defense and fucking Joe Woods

 

[Shanemansj13]

Oh, I agree.....and I'm not saying he needs to target him 10-12 times a game.

But, 3 freaking targets is basically utilizing him as a decoy.....6-7 at least IMO.

3 players got twice as many targets and Higgins got 5 targets.

Chargers 47-42 Browns (Oct 10, 2021) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Los Angeles Chargers vs. Cleveland Browns NFL game from October 10, 2021 on ESPN. Includes all passing, rushing and receiving stats.

www.espn.com

Plain and simple, they shouldn't have to score 50 to win the game. The defense struggling but they got screwed by the refs on a couple plays where they would have gotten stops, sucks but it's just the way things go sometimes. Ultimately, they need to be way more consistent and Joe Woods cannot scheme against dual-threat QB's with stellar offenses, too many examples of struggles. The least of my worries is the Browns' offense.

 

[dtgold88]

lol

SAS is an idiot.

I think Mayfield may be trying to pass a little less to Odell, but it's what he should be doing. It seems like he was at his worst when he was trying to force the ball to OBJ.

Mayfield needs to get the ball to the guy who's open and not check down so much in 2 minute drills. So far, it seems like, more often than not, it's Jarvis Landry that's open, not OBJ. Maybe you try to force a couple to OBJ during a 2 minute drill rather than just check down. But for the rest of the game, if OBJ wants the ball, he should get open. Not saying OBJ is complaining, just that Baker needs to hit the open receiver.

Force to OBJ and his critics rip him. don't throw to him (and still score 42) and critics rip him.

 

[dtgold88]

This is the problem, Mayfiekd feels pressure to throw the ball to this dumbass. They better trade him, and soon.

He does? Even though he targeted him barely a handful of times the last couple games?

 

[dtgold88]

Regarding Mayfield and not throwing to OBJ.....3 targets? I understand wanting to spread the ball around, but that's ridiculous.

He's a weapon and that's just unreal.

I mean, they scored 42 points, he had 300+ yards and a 122 rating.

 

[Wamu]

I mean, they scored 42 points, he had 300+ yards and a 122 rating.

For some out there Mayfield can't even tie his shoes right. He could go 25-26 for 299 & 4 TD's and some would complain that he didn't complete all his passes and didn't throw for 300 yards.

My opinion of him is slowly changing. He's definitely not the complete jackass he was a few years ago.