NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[tlance]

Those were not my definitions, FYI

Huh? Thinking that playoff game was a big game. We were missing our #1 WR. The #2 guy did not even get a target last game. #3 guy is gone (and didn't catch a pass). #4 guy was a 6th round rookie. 2 starting O-lineman were out AND their replacements. Moved the ball up and down the field.

By that definition, when has Mahomes ever shown he's any more than a game manager? You thinking Hill and Kelce would not be good without Mahomes? FYI, these are not my beliefs but should be yours if you think #3 is true.

Baker is so much more Favre than, say, Alex Smith or Aikman. If anything you could say he’s been too much of a risk taker, and he’s had to be coached to balance that with playing within a scheme and cutting down on turnovers (exact opposite of game manager). I know you can't take away the INT at the end, but if you just watched that game and evaluated Baker up to that point, he was elite, like top 3-5 or better elite QB good and made some throws that only big time guys can make.

None of my comments in this discussion are meant to say Baker is great/elite yet. But calling him a game manager just doesn't fit.

You are all over the place man.

I know those weren’t your definitions.

When has Mahomes shown he was more than a game manager? Have you ever watched football?

The only thing we disagree on (aside from your usual inflation of any Cleveland player) is the definition of game manager.

And I don’t care to discuss that anymore.

 

[Wamu]

I heard yesterday, that in a poll of NFL execs, they had Carr ranked ahead of Baker. They didn't say how far apart they had them, just that Carr was ranked ahead of him.

I would never say something just to get some shit started. Mayfield has a better winning % (.500) than Carr (.432).

 

[DJ Fieri]

Tony Reali had some deep thoughts on Around the Horn about the girls molested by Nassar.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I would never say something just to get some shit started. Mayfield has a better winning % (.500) than Carr (.432).

He's also had a better defense.....LOL.

Carr has had bottom 10 defenses since playing for the Raiders.

 

[Black Adam]

it helps the volume of your comebacks when you are always losing

lol, pay that clown no mind, Deej. Look how long it took the asswipe to "come back" after the Chiefs beat the Browns last Sunday...

 

[Shanemansj13]

He's also had a better defense.....LOL.

Carr has had bottom 10 defenses since playing for the Raiders.

Baker had 21st, 20th and 21st 20 2018-20 and that is being generous. Both have shitty defenses, lets hope that changes this year

 

[Black Adam]

I would never say something just to get some shit started. Mayfield has a better winning % (.500) than Carr (.432).

Never ever...

 

[DJ Fieri]

Baker had 21st, 20th and 21st 20 2018-20 and that is being generous. Both have shitty defenses, lets hope that changes this year

 

[bksballer89]

Why are we acting like Carr is great?

 

[DJ Fieri]

Why are we acting like Carr is great?

Nobody said he's great, but he's very good and most likely under-rated.

He's a top 10 QB IMO.

 

[bksballer89]

It is a legit debate about who is better. Carr isn't hands down the better qb

 

[Black Adam]

Why are we acting like Carr is great?

I'm not...

#happywithmyquarterback

 

[DJ Fieri]

I heard yesterday, that in a poll of NFL execs, they had Carr ranked ahead of Baker. They didn't say how far apart they had them, just that Carr was ranked ahead of him.

NFL execs @bksballer89

 

[bksballer89]

Also stats isn't everything. Raiders had a 3 game homestand late last season to basically lock down a playoffs spot and they went 0-3. Granted Carr played in only 2 of those games but a top 10 qb not going 0-2

 

[bksballer89]

NFL execs @bksballer89

You should know by now idc. I form my own opinion on things when it comes to sports i love

 

[DJ Fieri]

You should know by now idc. I form my own opinion on things when it comes to sports i love

So you know more than NFC execs.....got it.

Mooooooooooooooooooving on.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Also stats isn't everything. Raiders had a 3 game homestand late last season to basically lock down a playoffs spot and they went 0-3. Granted Carr played in only 2 of those games but a top 10 qb not going 0-2

DEFENSE.

 

[bksballer89]

DEFENSE.

Colts game yeah but the Miami game? Nope

Can't complain about defense allowing 26 points if you're allegedly a top 10 qb.

 

[bksballer89]

So you know more than NFC execs.....got it.

Mooooooooooooooooooving on.

I said i form my own opinion.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I said i form my own opinion.

And you probably think Winston is a better QB than Carr.....based off 1 game but his career INT % is almost double Carr's.