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[bksballer89]

 

[trojanfan12]

But you said "with few exceptions" not just these 2 times. As to this game they did not know what the score would be "late in the game" at the end of the first half.

Now I can agree with this coach (especially seeing what he did at the end) he truly may have just gone by his "gut" and not any kind of data.

Right, few exceptions. For example, if the Seahawks offense was rolling over the Denver defense, scoring touchdowns and threatening to build or already had a double digit lead, then I'd likely go for the touchdown to try to stay close.

That's not what was happening last night. Last night, points were a bit harder to come by, so they needed to get them when they could.

 

[trojanfan12]

Learn how to read. Never said you didn't. I said it is not a guarantee conversion.

People can hate/disagree with the decision all they want but the kick had the distance so it wasn't a terrible decision. Not like he didnt have the leg for it

4th and 5 isn't easy. Defense line can pin their ears back while the secondary can play the sticks.

All true, but I heard a stat this morning that the chances of hitting the field goal was 14% vs 42% going for it.

Also have to remember who the QB is. This wasn't some rookie. This is a guy who has made a career out of coming through in situations like that.

Situations like that are literally why they got him and gave him a $240 million contract. Then the first time they are in that situation, they opt for a 64 yard field goal.

 

[thunderc]

I guess I’m just too old school for the alternate telecasts, I can’t do it.

 

[bksballer89]

All true, but I heard a stat this morning that the chances of hitting the field goal was 14% vs 42% going for it.

Also have to remember who the QB is. This wasn't some rookie. This is a guy who has made a career out of coming through in situations like that.

Situations like that are literally why they got him and gave him a $240 million contract. Then the first time they are in that situation, they opt for a 64 yard field goal.

Yeah i would have went for it. My main sticking point is 4th and 5 isn't an automatic conversion so we can't just assume they would have gotten the 1st

 

[trojanfan12]

My biggest issue on the play was how indecisive they were and time wasting. The kicker said his target line was the 46 which is where they were at. Needed to move faster just in case of a missed kick since they had all of their timeouts. Could have gotten the ball back with 20 seconds or so

That whole final drive was bizarre. Even before the field goal attempt it was weird. There was no sense of urgency.

 

[bksballer89]

I guess I’m just too old school for the alternate telecasts, I can’t do it.

It is great tv unless your team is playing. I usually go back and forth especially since i like Buck and Aikman

 

[trojanfan12]

Yeah i would have went for it. My main sticking point is 4th and 5 isn't an automatic conversion so we can't just assume they would have gotten the 1st

Agree 100%. The funny thing about it is that the field goal wasn't even the biggest mistake they made on that drive.

 

[trojanfan12]

I guess I’m just too old school for the alternate telecasts, I can’t do it.

It's interesting because you're getting the perspective of one of the all time greats, but it's a lot more talking than a regular broadcast which can be distracting.

Forgot it was on last night...I'd have loved to hear Peyton on that final drive.

 

[bksballer89]

It's interesting because you're getting the perspective of one of the all time greats, but it's a lot more talking than a regular broadcast which can be distracting.

I like it. It is like you and the guys kicking it except the Mannings know much more than us

 

[DJ Fieri]

All true, but I heard a stat this morning that the chances of hitting the field goal was 14% vs 42% going for it.

Also have to remember who the QB is. This wasn't some rookie. This is a guy who has made a career out of coming through in situations like that.

Situations like that are literally why they got him and gave him a $240 million contract. Then the first time they are in that situation, they opt for a 64 yard field goal.

Nailed it.

Russ is Capt Comeback.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I guess I’m just too old school for the alternate telecasts, I can’t do it.

I have watched those guys like for a few minutes 1, maybe 2 times.....

Now that Buck and Aikman are doing MNF......chance I watch them again is slim and none.

 

[fightinfunbags]

It's interesting because you're getting the perspective of one of the all time greats, but it's a lot more talking than a regular broadcast which can be distracting.

Forgot it was on last night...I'd have loved to hear Peyton on that final drive.

His decision making is like sitting next to a dude at the black Jack table who hits on 18 with the dealer showing a 6. How do you handicap dumb decision making? You’re fucked.

 

[WiggyRuss]

A guy hitting a 64 yarder?

i would say less than 10%- especially under that pressure.

I would say the chances of converting 4 and 5 is def. not less than 40% with Russel Wilson.

I cant see how you do not go for it. No way was that guy hitting a 64 yarder. You pay Wilson 200 million and have a mediocre kicker try a 64 yarder? cmon.

 

[WiggyRuss]

dont get me wrong- I am glad- fuck the Broncos .

 

[WiggyRuss]

I really know baseball more than anyone.

Guardians- as streaky as they come.

 

[bksballer89]

I really know baseball more than anyone.

Guardians- as streaky as they come.

Lies

 

[bksballer89]

 

[DJ Fieri]

A guy hitting a 64 yarder?

i would say less than 10%- especially under that pressure.

I would say the chances of converting 4 and 5 is def. not less than 40% with Russel Wilson.

I cant see how you do not go for it. No way was that guy hitting a 64 yarder. You pay Wilson 200 million and have a mediocre kicker try a 64 yarder? cmon.

Right?

 

[bksballer89]

A guy hitting a 64 yarder?

i would say less than 10%- especially under that pressure.

I would say the chances of converting 4 and 5 is def. not less than 40% with Russel Wilson.

I cant see how you do not go for it. No way was that guy hitting a 64 yarder. You pay Wilson 200 million and have a mediocre kicker try a 64 yarder? cmon.

You made solid points here but the Broncos kicker is far from mediocre.

McManus has been one of the best kickers in the league over the last three seasons, having nailed 83-of-99 field goals (83.8%) despite a league-high average distance of 41.7. He benefits from the thin Denver air when playing at home, but note that he's actually been better on the road during the span (85.7% with a 41.5 average distance)