Series Thread: NBA Finals: Toronto Raptors vs Golden State Warriors

[shopson67]

Feel free You’re reaching @Montalban levels of wanting to be right though. It’s a slippery slope.

At least dt doesn't consider himself a Warriors fan while pissing down that slope.

 

[msgkings322]

Mostly just messing with those who seem sure Kerr is among the best.......but as pointed out, GS has now played 8 Finals' games where they were not clearly the most talented team and they are 3-5.

How does that matter when judging a coach?

We've already heard you say Kerr is a good coach, and other than Pop you can't name another good one, so Kerr is indeed one of the best active coaches

 

[msgkings322]

There's NEVER an asterisk in any title. Every title is valid no matter how injured your opponent is. You still have to win 4 series. Injuries matter, but they do not mean "asterisks". The Warriors have benefited from them, and been hurt by them. That's sports.

 

[dtgold88]

Feel free You’re reaching @Montalban levels of wanting to be right though. It’s a slippery slope.

was tongue-in-cheek.....though it is true.

 

[dtgold88]

How does that matter when judging a coach?

We've already heard you say Kerr is a good coach, and other than Pop you can't name another good one, so Kerr is indeed one of the best active coaches

even though I named Fizdale (and you agreed) and Doc and said most would have done what Kerr did in GS?

How does it matter? The idea in the playoffs Kerr's teams have always been more talented than the opponent doesn't matter?

Guess last night was on him by that logic.

 

[msgkings322]

was tongue-in-cheek.....though it is true.

LOL "I'm just kidding....but I'm totally serious"

 

[dtgold88]

There's NEVER an asterisk in any title. Every title is valid no matter how injured your opponent is. You still have to win 4 series. Injuries matter, but they do not mean "asterisks". The Warriors have benefited from them, and been hurt by them. That's sports.

Agree.....but benefitted a bit more right?

 

[msgkings322]

even though I named Fizdale (and you agreed) and Doc and said most would have done what Kerr did in GS?

How does it matter? The idea in the playoffs Kerr's teams have always been more talented than the opponent doesn't matter?

Guess last night was on him by that logic.

So Kerr is among the best 4 active coaches. Sounds right.

 

[dtgold88]

LOL "I'm just kidding....but I'm totally serious"

statement was true, but made in jest.

Lighten up Francis

 

[dtgold88]

So Kerr is among the best 4 active coaches. Sounds right.

Might be, but hard to know as I also said I think most coaches would have won in his place. Mike Brown did.

 

[dtgold88]

At least dt doesn't consider himself a Warriors fan while pissing down that slope.

So I've got that going for me?

 

[msgkings322]

Might be, but hard to know as I also said I think most coaches would have won in his place. Mike Brown did.

We're back to your belief that coaching hardly matters

 

[dtgold88]

We're back to your belief that coaching hardly matters

Yes, we are. Never went off of it. Belief was enhanced again last night. Or Kerr just got stupid

Maybe hardly matters is too much. Probably 20-30% coaching in NBA IMO. Rest is players.

Better than MLB, at least, where I think 10% coaching might be generous.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Yes, we are. Never went off of it. Belief was enhanced again last night. Or Kerr just got stupid

Maybe hardly matters is too much. Probably 20-30% coaching in NBA IMO. Rest is players.

Better than MLB, at least, where I think 10% coaching might be generous.

I think most would agree coaching is no more than a third. Sometimes that third is a difference between titles and runner ups though.

Or just an uncanny ability to manage egos

 

[msgkings322]

Yes, we are. Never went off of it. Belief was enhanced again last night. Or Kerr just got stupid

Maybe hardly matters is too much. Probably 20-30% coaching in NBA IMO. Rest is players.

Better than MLB, at least, where I think 10% coaching might be generous.

That's fair. 30% is pretty significant. Agree re baseball. Football is probably over 50%

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

From the "you should fucking know better by now" department:

 

[CitySushi]

From the "you should fucking know better by now" department:

What an embarrassment. Dude should be barred from the games, don't matter if he's a team owner or not.

Step further, he shoulda caught the fade from Lowry. Wouldn't have been mad.

 

[shopson67]

So I've got that going for me?

Yeah, since Montalban is actually pissing UP that slope. That never ends well...

 

[CitySushi]

If anything, they were NOT underestimating the competition by assuming they needed Klay back at better than whatever percentage we would've been last night (and a risk for further injury) in order to win. So they took the likely loss and look forward to the next game. His absence defensively was pretty obvious last night.

Kyle Lowry with Klay defending him.

Game 1 - 2/9 - 7 Pts, 9 assists, 6 rebs
Game 2 - 4/11 - 13 pts, 2 assists, 1 reb

Kyle Lowry without Klay.

Game 3 - 8/16, 23 Pts, 9 Assists, 4 rebs


Yeah...not sure if Klay is an elite defender or not. It's all about metrics.

 

[Nightcrawler]

From the "you should fucking know better by now" department:

If I was a player, I wouldn’t let some douchebag in the crowd put his hands on me. Consequences be damned.