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Series Thread: NBA championship: Celtics vs Mavs

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Agree, keep this team together and they can win multiple titles
May take some finesse, they are currently over the 2nd apron, approx $186M for 8 players plus the #30 pick. Another $2.5M for Brissett's player option and more cap holds for empty roster spots. Hauser and Queta have team options and Walsh is non-guaranteed, but they could add another $6M+ together.
 

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OK 4 out of 30 poorly run teams not trying...not that bad really

It also makes it harder for teams to sell off when you squeeze out their buyers market

Can’t sell off guys for picks when large portions of the real contenders can’t bid
 

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May take some finesse, they are currently over the 2nd apron, approx $186M for 8 players plus the #30 pick. Another $2.5M for Brissett's player option and more cap holds for empty roster spots. Hauser and Queta have team options and Walsh is non-guaranteed, but they could add another $6M+ together.

Yeah Brissett is bad

My guess is they trade down from 30 for multipe 2s, especially after the bad trade for Springer

Js be surprised if Walsh or queta isn’t on the team next year

They will likely resign at least one of Tillman and Kornet

And extend white

They’ll be over for a while
 

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Bulls and hawks right now, very happy to be medicore and not sell off or buy

Most teams will dip into the tax and then run back out shortly

I get not paying the tax to be bad but all this does is squeeze out the mid market guys
Bulls kind of tried - though it didn't work - making their deal for Vuc when they did, signing Ball in FA, etc. They strike me as a team that IF they could win they'd try pretty hard to do it. Might be wrong.
 

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It also makes it harder for teams to sell off when you squeeze out their buyers market

Can’t sell off guys for picks when large portions of the real contenders can’t bid
Thus, no superteams like so many fans bitched about
 

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And yet the ratings say…



…we want super teams
Maybe those fans should stop bitching next time one emerges and stop ragging on guys who join up to form them.

Ratings seem to be driven by certain names still like LeBron and Curry. It will evolve, I'm not too worried about the NBA's financial situation.
 

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It's all Durant's fault. If he could've just manned up and led his own team instead of coattail riding, are we in this place now?
 

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Well now the hot takes come out. They 'can' do that but multiple titles only really happen with superteams. People I'm sure said the same thing about Denver last year. I know I had them as strong contenders this year. And maybe they win another but you see how it goes, the other teams in the league aren't that far back of the ones who win titles now that there aren't superteams.

This does get back to what I said earlier though, the Celtics are not one but they are super-ish. They are stacked 1 through 6. Other teams have some work to do to catch up next year, so we'll see. I just don't think in this era of parity multiple titles will happen that often. Maybe Philly gets a 3rd star. Maybe OKC brings in a veteran piece and wins their title next year, or Minnesota. Lots will change.
Sure, they can bc they have the talent but it doesn't mean they will. One star moves to a contender and it changes things + Boston had a lot of luck with teams getting injured. They were the favorite regardless but 4-5 games series are a lot less wear and tear then tough 6-7 games series. It makes a huge difference. I don't expect them to win multiple but like I said, they have the talent. They had the talent in previous years too though but sometimes all it takes is winning that first to breakout. Definitely will be interesting with a handful of other young teams
 

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Sure, they can bc they have the talent but it doesn't mean they will. One star moves to a contender and it changes things + Boston had a lot of luck with teams getting injured. They were the favorite regardless but 4-5 games series are a lot less wear and tear then tough 6-7 games series. It makes a huge difference. I don't expect them to win multiple but like I said, they have the talent. They had the talent in previous years too though but sometimes all it takes is winning that first to breakout. Definitely will be interesting with a handful of other young teams

They have basically a 3 year window starting this year to do it

After that guys start to fall off and become more expensive again
 

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LOL, That dog doesn't know shit.
That last one didn't make it into a basket before the second try, so Dallas wins game 7 in overtime.
 

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It's all Durant's fault. If he could've just manned up and led his own team instead of coattail riding, are we in this place now?
We have seen that he probably isn't capable of leading his own team to a title. He did the right thing, he got 2 FMVPs (and would have had 3 without the injuries) and we got to see one of the 4 best teams ever assembled.

And isn't 'this place' now better? No more superteams for you guys to bitch about. Parity, teams taking turns winning a title.
 

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Sure, they can bc they have the talent but it doesn't mean they will. One star moves to a contender and it changes things + Boston had a lot of luck with teams getting injured. They were the favorite regardless but 4-5 games series are a lot less wear and tear then tough 6-7 games series. It makes a huge difference. I don't expect them to win multiple but like I said, they have the talent. They had the talent in previous years too though but sometimes all it takes is winning that first to breakout. Definitely will be interesting with a handful of other young teams
Sure, they are better than Denver last year and the Warriors the year before, they have a shot. But in the new era I think it's unlikely
 

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We have seen that he probably isn't capable of leading his own team to a title. He did the right thing, he got 2 FMVPs (and would have had 3 without the injuries) and we got to see one of the 4 best teams ever assembled.

And isn't 'this place' now better? No more superteams for you guys to bitch about. Parity, teams taking turns winning a title.

I hate it

I want a superteam
 

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I hate it

I want a superteam
I quite enjoyed when my team was the most recent one

And I'm enough of a fan of the NBA to appreciate the next one even if it's not the Ws. Seeing a basketball team playing at the highest possible level is fun, you didn't have to be a Bulls fan or Lakers fan or Celtics fan or Warriors fan to enjoy their superteams.
 

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I quite enjoyed when my team was the most recent one

And I'm enough of a fan of the NBA to appreciate the next one even if it's not the Ws. Seeing a basketball team playing at the highest possible level is fun, you didn't have to be a Bulls fan or Lakers fan or Celtics fan or Warriors fan to enjoy their superteams.

That is a good thing for me.

Because the Wizards aren’t getting there in my lifetime.
 

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We have seen that he probably isn't capable of leading his own team to a title. He did the right thing, he got 2 FMVPs (and would have had 3 without the injuries) and we got to see one of the 4 best teams ever assembled.

And isn't 'this place' now better? No more superteams for you guys to bitch about. Parity, teams taking turns winning a title.

You're talking to a Lakers fan. Super teams have been their go-to, really. Not to the Warriors extent, but still...
 

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That is a good thing for me.

Because the Wizards aren’t getting there in my lifetime.
Yeah anyone who's a Wizards or Hornets fan needs to be a fan of the NBA in general to tune in
 
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