My Top 68 as of right now

[rmilia1]

1. Kentucky
2. Virginia
3. Duke
4. Gonzaga
5. Wisconsin
6. Villanova
7. Arizona
8. Kansas
9. Iowa State
10. Notre Dame
11. Oklahoma
12. Northern Iowa
13. Utah
14. North Carloina
15. Maryland
16. Louisville
17. Baylor
18. Wichita State
19. VCU
20. Arkansas
21. WVU
22. Butler
23. Georgetown
24. SMU
25. Providence
26. OK State
27. Indiana
28. San Diego State
29. ichigan State
30. Xavier
31. Ohio State
32. Ole Miss
33. Dayton
34. Temple
35. Texas
36. Iowa
37. Colorado State
38. St Johns
39. Cincinnati
40. LSU
41. Georgia
42. Purdue
43. Texas A&M
44. NC State
45. Oregon
46. Illinois
47. Harvard
48. Tulsa
49. Valpo
50. Wofford
51. Stephen F Austin
52. Murray State'
53. Iona
54. La Tech
55. Toledo
56. Eastern Washington
57. Georgia State
58. UC Davis
59. William & Nary
60. South Dakota State
61. Fla Gulf Coast
62. High Point
63. NC Central
64. New Mexico State
65. Albany
66. Bucknell
67. TX Southern
68. St Francis ( NY )

 

[dcZONAfan]

No Colgate?!?

Go fuck yourself rmilla you bastard!

 

[rmilia1]

Alas Colgate is 69. Always a bridesmaid

 

[The Derski]

I'd put UA over the Zags.

 

[Jim Rome is Flaming]

Alas Colgate is 69. Always a bridesmaid

 

[KansasSooner]

If the Big 12 does as poorly in the Big Dance as it does in the bowls they just need to stop ranking them...

 

[uncfan103]

This is really small and basically irrelevant but I don't see anyway the SoCon champ can be seeded that highly. I know Wofford beat NC State but they've got really bad losses also. I just don't see it. It's a really good list though

 

[BoiseMike19]

Hey, where is BSU? We'll sneak in for our 1 game and out trip.

 

[rmilia1]

Actually I have Boise just outside the tourney right now but they are certainly in contention. I probably would have had them in up til Sunday when Oregon beat Utah

 

[tducey]

Neat, thanks for sharing and the effort put into this.

 

[SJ76]

Cincy has lost 3 out of their last 4 - Tulane was one and they lost to East Carolina. Weak schedule and bad losses.

Georgia has beatin absolutely no one and has lost 4 out of their last 7. A&M hasn't really beatin anyone either and also has had a weak schedule. Aside from Kentucky, the SEC is pretty bad IMO. Ole Miss just beat Tennessee by 2 at home.

Cincy, Georgia should definitely be BEHIND Illinois. Illinois has no bad losses and played a difficult schedule. Baylor, Miami, Villanova, Oregon - non-conference. Go look at A&M and Georgia's non-conference schedules.

Other than that it looks pretty good.

 

[TrollyMcTroller]

Cincy has lost 3 out of their last 4

That explains why kramer hasn't been around much.

 

[ericd7633]

This is really small and basically irrelevant but I don't see anyway the SoCon champ can be seeded that highly. I know Wofford beat NC State but they've got really bad losses also. I just don't see it. It's a really good list though

Wofford has an RPI of 53. Out of the 1 bid leagues that is fantastic. They really only have one truly bad loss. They also have two top 50 RPI wins. The committee isn't seeding the conference, it's seeding the AQ from that conference. If Wofford wins the league they will be in that 12/13 range. I'd be stunned if they were on the 14 line. If Chattanooga wins the league I could see them possibly being a 14. Everybody else would more than likely be a 16.

 

[ericd7633]

Cincy has lost 3 out of their last 4 - Tulane was one and they lost to East Carolina. Weak schedule and bad losses.

Georgia has beatin absolutely no one and has lost 4 out of their last 7. A&M hasn't really beatin anyone either and also has had a weak schedule. Aside from Kentucky, the SEC is pretty bad IMO. Ole Miss just beat Tennessee by 2 at home.

Cincy, Georgia should definitely be BEHIND Illinois. Illinois has no bad losses and played a difficult schedule. Baylor, Miami, Villanova, Oregon - non-conference. Go look at A&M and Georgia's non-conference schedules.

Other than that it looks pretty good.

While Cincy has lost 3 of 4, they have 5 top 50 wins. That is very strong for bubble teams. Also, Cincy and Illinois have basically the same SoS, and that's with Cincy playing in a very weak conference. Cincy had a much tougher Non Conf. SoS.

And Illinois has lost to Nebraska and Minnesota, I would constitute those as bad losses.

Honestly, from a resume standpoint, there isn't much separation among the 3. I would have Illinois last among the group of teams you mentioned though.

 

[SJ76]

Let's talk more about weak schedules.

Colorado St. ?? 4th in their conference, cake walk non-conference schedule

And doesn't it seem every other year the Zags beat up on their conference and fairly easy non-conference schedule only to get beat in the 2nd round of the tourney? How they continue to pull off a #1 seed is just beyond me. Sure great record, but man.. Beat somebody not hovering around #25!

 

[SJ76]

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While Cincy has lost 3 of 4, they have 5 top 50 wins. That is very strong for bubble teams. Also, Cincy and Illinois have basically the same SoS, and that's with Cincy playing in a very weak conference. Cincy had a much tougher Non Conf. SoS.

And Illinois has lost to Nebraska and Minnesota, I would constitute those as bad losses.

Honestly, from a resume standpoint, there isn't much separation among the 3. I would have Illinois last among the group of teams you mentioned though.

All but one of Cincy's "top 50" wins have been in that weak conference man. And Cincy lost to Nebraska, which I don't consider a bad loss. East Carolina and Tulane = bad loss. Nebraska at home has been fits for everyone until last weekend. Minny is no slouch at home either.

Cincy has a tougher Non Conf SoS = Nebraska, NC State, SDSU, VCA, and Ole Miss?

Illinois had Baylor, Villanova, Oregon, Mizzou all at neutral sites + @ Miami.

Cincy's was much tougher? Nova has been in the top 10 all year. Mizzou is awful. SDSU is overrated and so is Ole Miss. Much tougher my ass.

 

[ericd7633]

Let's talk more about weak schedules.

Colorado St. ?? 4th in their conference, cake walk non-conference schedule

And doesn't it seem every other year the Zags beat up on their conference and fairly easy non-conference schedule only to get beat in the 2nd round of the tourney? How they continue to pull off a #1 seed is just beyond me. Sure great record, but man.. Beat somebody not hovering around #25!

Gonzaga played a top 20 Non Conf. SOS, I wouldn't call that an easy non-conference SoS.

Two years ago when they were a #1 seed, they played a top 50 non-conference SoS.

They can't help that there conference affiliation isn't the greatest.

 

[SJ76]

Gonzaga played a top 20 Non Conf. SOS, I wouldn't call that an easy non-conference SoS.

Two years ago when they were a #1 seed, they played a top 50 non-conference SoS.

They can't help that there conference affiliation isn't the greatest.

Gonzaga played 1 team in the top 20 and lost. They've beatin a few teams hovering around #25 and their conference schedule.

 

[BoiseMike19]

Actually I have Boise just outside the tourney right now but they are certainly in contention. I probably would have had them in up til Sunday when Oregon beat Utah

I'm with ya. Think we have to win our last 4, one @SDSU, and finish top 3 in the MW tourney to get a serious look.

 

[ericd7633]

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All but one of Cincy's "top 50" wins have been in that weak conference man. And Cincy lost to Nebraska, which I don't consider a bad loss. East Carolina and Tulane = bad loss. Nebraska at home has been fits for everyone until last weekend. Minny is no slouch at home either.

Cincy has a tougher Non Conf SoS = Nebraska, NC State, SDSU, VCA, and Ole Miss?

Illinois had Baylor, Villanova, Oregon, Mizzou all at neutral sites + @ Miami.

Cincy's was much tougher? Nova has been in the top 10 all year. Mizzou is awful. SDSU is overrated and so is Ole Miss. Much tougher my ass.

Yes it is a WEAK conference. SMU(who they swept) is good, top 25ish, and single digit seed good. SDSU is also single digit seed good. They also have beaten Temple, who's IN the field for now, and NC State who's right on the bubble. But that doesn't mean the conference is good, because it isn't.

And yes, they played a significantly better non conference schedule than Illinois did.

Cincy's Non Conf SOS = 20
Illinois' Non Conf SOS = 171

Yes Illinois played Nova, that's a great OOC game. But Oregon is a bubble team, Miami is a little worse than that even. Baylor is a good game OOC as well. Mizzou fucking sucks.

Nebraska is a bad loss, they aren't even going to make the NIT this year. That's bad.