My take on KC's game so far

[skinsdad62]

1) KC does his best work at pre snap . if he knows what the defense is doing to him he can make the right read and get the ball there . however he can also be fooled at pre snap and can predetermine throws

2) knowing our offense , he knows it very well and is able to slide protections avoid sacks and give the offense a fair shot at working . Rg3 cant

3) right now KC has qbing 101 down . he is improving on qbing 102 and he needs to get to 103 to make up for a lack of some "physical " attributes

4 his arm is above avg in strength and ok in accuracy . what i see is a guyy who can make the right reads and get the ball where it needs to go however a great qb will get it to the wr in stride and allow for RAC . KC is inconsistent there he needs wrs to make up for that at this point as opposed to him making the wr like a brady does

5) if things arent going to script he struggles . he isnt a tony romo who can rescue a bad play .

6) KC is starting to be able to play in the clutch .

7) he is a gun slinger and will get picked off

8) he is a stand up guy and will accept blame for his failings

overall i see KC with the potential to be a very good starter in this league if given the time to develop soon he will be allowed to cut loose but that wont happen until the ints are cut down . we arent going deep if djax isnt in the lineup because KC cant make up for the inexperience of ross yet

he wont be a "franchise " qb in my opinion . but he wont be an alex smith either . if we put a good team around him he can take us places

but for that to happen KC must become even more sharp at the cerebral part of the game and learn to cut it loose when he has an open guy

 

[j_y19]

1) KC does his best work at pre snap . if he knows what the defense is doing to him he can make the right read and get the ball there . however he can also be fooled at pre snap and can predetermine throws

2) knowing our offense , he knows it very well and is able to slide protections avoid sacks and give the offense a fair shot at working . Rg3 cant

3) right now KC has qbing 101 down . he is improving on qbing 102 and he needs to get to 103 to make up for a lack of some "physical " attributes

4 his arm is above avg in strength and ok in accuracy . what i see is a guyy who can make the right reads and get the ball where it needs to go however a great qb will get it to the wr in stride and allow for RAC . KC is inconsistent there he needs wrs to make up for that at this point as opposed to him making the wr like a brady does

5) if things arent going to script he struggles . he isnt a tony romo who can rescue a bad play .

6) KC is starting to be able to play in the clutch .

7) he is a gun slinger and will get picked off

8) he is a stand up guy and will accept blame for his failings

overall i see KC with the potential to be a very good starter in this league if given the time to develop soon he will be allowed to cut loose but that wont happen until the ints are cut down . we arent going deep if djax isnt in the lineup because KC cant make up for the inexperience of ross yet

he wont be a "franchise " qb in my opinion . but he wont be an alex smith either . if we put a good team around him he can take us places

but for that to happen KC must become even more sharp at the cerebral part of the game and learn to cut it loose when he has an open guy

Pretty much spot on, IMO. KC is improving. As for his accuracy, while he is in the top 10 in accuracy YTD, many of his passes do not allow for much YAC. And as dad pointed out, he does struggle when the play breaks down. Improvisation is not his strong suit. He has come a long way in pre reading the defense and either audible out or change the protection scheme. As for some of the other negatives sty pointed, we must be watching 2 different players. As chris baker said, KC is becoming the leader on this team. I'll take his opinion over any of ours as he is in the locker room and sees much more than us. I see dalton level of production for KC if he continues his growth projection. I agree that he will never be franchise level but I believe he may give us the opportunity to draft a project and develop him over the course of a couple seasons. As for his on field demeanor, he has made huge strides from last year. Don't get the lights out reference. He appears to feel very comfortable and confident even after a mistake.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Very good breakdown Dad. He's no Romo but few are. But he does a good job of feeling and avoiding pressure. As I've said I still question his accuracy on mid length and long throws. He misses way too many opportunities down field and you gotta have more of those. But the clutch gene that has shown up 2 weeks in a row is very very encouraging.

 

[skinsdad62]

Kirk Cousins Equals Andy Dalton

cali posted this as a new thread but what i want you guys to focus on are some of the qbs he compares to

 

[skinsdad62]

A closer look at mechanical faults in Kirk Cousins’s performance against the Falcons

here is the mechanical issue i was alluding too

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Kirk Cousins Equals Andy Dalton

cali posted this as a new thread but what i want you guys to focus on are some of the qbs he compares to

i really like the way that was mapped out. Good for thinking points.

 

[redskin4209]

KC needs to take it to the next level, he needs to be more precise with his passes. KC had Garcon open on several occasions. The Off had many opportunities to take over the game this pass Sunday.

 

[Stymietee]

Maybe the issue is how people define progression or stepping up. Let me get this out of the way before the "Sty hates KC" chorus chirps in.......KIRK COUSINS HAS IMPROVED! It is however possible to improve upon doing the same basic things.....For me progression and or stepping up requires not only mastering basic NFL throws, but going beyond that to a point where 15 to 20 yard passes turn into extended gains after the catch, or making throws where the receiver adjusts to them by design (back shoulder throw for example) No one can honestly say that Kirk is there yet. In fact an honest appraisal tells us that he still has some work to do towards mastering the basic throws.

 

[skinsdad62]

Maybe the issue is how people define progression or stepping up. Let me get this out of the way before the "Sty hates KC" chorus chirps in.......KIRK COUSINS HAS IMPROVED! It is however possible to improve upon doing the same basic things.....For me progression and or stepping up requires not only mastering basic NFL throws, but going beyond that to a point where 15 to 20 yard passes turn into extended gains after the catch, or making throws where the receiver adjusts to them by design (back shoulder throw for example) No one can honestly say that Kirk is there yet. In fact an honest appraisal tells us that he still has some work to do towards mastering the basic throws.

a look above at my post on mechanics addresses that issue and backs up what you are saying

he has work to do but he is learning and that is a good thing

 

[j_y19]

Maybe the issue is how people define progression or stepping up. Let me get this out of the way before the "Sty hates KC" chorus chirps in.......KIRK COUSINS HAS IMPROVED! It is however possible to improve upon doing the same basic things.....For me progression and or stepping up requires not only mastering basic NFL throws, but going beyond that to a point where 15 to 20 yard passes turn into extended gains after the catch, or making throws where the receiver adjusts to them by design (back shoulder throw for example) No one can honestly say that Kirk is there yet. In fact an honest appraisal tells us that he still has some work to do towards mastering the basic throws.

Sty, I agree with you on this point. The question is can he take the next step. Honestly, we don't know. But it would seem to me that it would be prudent to give him a chance so we can find out. Wouldn't you agree?

 

[Sportster 72]

All the things they say he isn't doing well are coachable. After 5 games as a starter too many want him to be more than he should be at this point. Mechanics can be improved. Happens all the time in the league, read about Aaron Rogers in year one versus year two. (No I am not calling him the next Aaron Rogers) Donovan McNabb never improved his accuracy.

I think he has tools to work with. We can all play armchair QB all we want but I am sure SM and Gruden will figure it out.

 

[skinsdad62]

All the things they say he isn't doing well are coachable. After 5 games as a starter too many want him to be more than he should be at this point. Mechanics can be improved. Happens all the time in the league, read about Aaron Rogers in year one versus year two. (No I am not calling him the next Aaron Rogers) Donovan McNabb never improved his accuracy.

I think he has tools to work with. We can all play armchair QB all we want but I am sure SM and Gruden will figure it out.

i agree . i mean the things he gets dinged on are what experienced good qbs can do . he has to get there but the expectation here on this board by some people are he should have that experienced "miracled " in for him

 

[Stymietee]

Sty, I agree with you on this point. The question is can he take the next step. Honestly, we don't know. But it would seem to me that it would be prudent to give him a chance so we can find out. Wouldn't you agree?

Absolutely!!!!! There is no other choice. Wonder where the idea came from that he wasn't getting that chance?

 

[Stymietee]

All the things they say he isn't doing well are coachable. After 5 games as a starter too many want him to be more than he should be at this point. Mechanics can be improved. Happens all the time in the league, read about Aaron Rogers in year one versus year two. (No I am not calling him the next Aaron Rogers) Donovan McNabb never improved his accuracy.

I think he has tools to work with. We can all play armchair QB all we want but I am sure SM and Gruden will figure it out.

Did you mean Aaron Rogers as a starter, dude sat for 4 years before he became the starter, attended QB school and ran the scout team.

 

[j_y19]

Absolutely!!!!! There is no other choice. Wonder where the idea came from that he wasn't getting that chance?

Probably fron the numerous posters on here that say he should be gone?

 

[Stymietee]

i agree . i mean the things he gets dinged on are what experienced good qbs can do . he has to get there but the expectation here on this board by some people are he should have that experienced "miracled " in for him

Again and again and again until those blinders come off for some. This is the first year that the organization deemed it necessary to hire a professional level QB coach. Had they done so earlier during the Dan Snyder tenure, maybe those coachable things would have been handled by now. I don't think that remarks about Kirk's weaknesses are aimed at him per-se, but rather at the failing of those in charge.....he's just the subject.

 

[Stymietee]

Probably fron the numerous posters on here that say he should be gone?

Don'tcha think that they have a right to their opinions? Besides, it's possible that they are more insightful than hopeful vs others.

 

[Sportster 72]

Rogers first year playing before he went into McCarthy QB school. Look it up if you wish.

 

[j_y19]

Don'tcha think that they have a right to their opinions? Besides, it's possible that they are more insightful than hopeful vs others.

Is That what I said?

 

[Stymietee]

Rogers first year playing before he went into McCarthy QB school. Look it up if you wish.

Don't know where you're getting your info from but Brett Favre was the starting QB for the first three years of Rogers career. He was the backup and only came into games in mop up roles. Maybe that start you're referring to was the preseason game his rookie season. There was no first year starting prior to going to McCarthy's QB school.