More KC contract news

[Sharkinva]

Let me guess - because the replacement QB won't be greedy, won't be making that much & likely won't ever fall short in a big game.

Thinking you were asking this question of Dean maybe??

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Thinking you were asking this question of Dean maybe??

Nope - just anticipating the response.

 

[deanpet21]

1. We are the Redskins. The odds that Dan Snyder is going to be OK with a Tyrod Taylor, or some retread are slim and none.

2. The odds of us finding the next Dak Prescott are also slim and none.

We have finally had some success over a more than one year fluke period, and you are more concerned with getting more draft picks and starting over. Its just as much, no scratch that... hugely more speculative that the Redskins can actually improve with switching QBs at this point in time.


But let me asks, what makes you think the Redskins can improve with either a rookie or a retread??

I don't know b/c I cant speculate but average Qb's can guide there teams to 8 or 9 win seasons just like KC did for us. Plus if you factor in the extra money saved and extra draft picks the Redskins can become a better all around team.

For example the Dolphins had a 10 win season which I think Tannenhill is just an average QB. So is can be done. Even the year before that the Jets had a 10 win season with the retread Fitzpatrick. So it can be done. Its not all doom and gloom if we lose KC. That is the biggest myth out there right now.

 

[skinsdad62]

You want KC signed at all costs. Blank check. same thing. Nothing you said is true. A lot of fans don't believe in giving KC what he wants.

find a post that says i wanted him signed at all costs i dare you

 

[deanpet21]

find a post that says i wanted him signed at all costs i dare you

you give that impression like other posters on here. So give me some numbers. What would you sign him back for and what wouldn't you sing him back for.

 

[Sharkinva]

I don't know b/c I cant speculate but average Qb's can guide there teams to 8 or 9 win seasons just like KC did for us. Plus if you factor in the extra money saved and extra draft picks the Redskins can become a better all around team.

For example the Dolphins had a 10 win season which I think Tannenhill is just an average QB. So is can be done. Even the year before that the Jets had a 10 win season with the retread Fitzpatrick. So it can be done. Its not all doom and gloom if we lose KC. That is the biggest myth out there right now.

Tannehill has been in the Dolphins system for five years now. An Average QB coming into a new team and a new system 9 times out of 10 equals a sub .500 record. Sure, teams do occasionally get lucky in these situations.

But seriously do some research.. take out the Dak Prescott factor... how many teams switch QBs and stay level or improve?? Not many.

 

[redskin4209]

Shark think we will sign KC

 

[skinsdad62]

you give that impression like other posters on here. So give me some numbers. What would you sign him back for and what wouldn't you sing him back for.

you are being foolish dean as i have answered that question before

so lets go with 5 years 85 mil guaranteed salary unimportant because after 3 years you can have it voided

 

[Sharkinva]

Shark think we will sign KC

LOgic says we should.

But if the FO thinks like 30-50% of the fan base, we wil leither tag him and trade him, or Tag him and draft a rookie and look forward to our possible 6th round comp pick in 2019.

 

[deanpet21]

you are being foolish dean as i have answered that question before

so lets go with 5 years 85 mil guaranteed salary unimportant because after 3 years you can have it voided

Its the first time I have seen a definite guaranteed money figure from you. Thank You.

 

[Stymietee]

LOgic says we should.

But if the FO thinks like 30-50% of the fan base, we wil leither tag him and trade him, or Tag him and draft a rookie and look forward to our possible 6th round comp pick in 2019.

There are other much better options than the either or being presented here. This thread is fast becoming much like the one that you started titled; "So say we use the non exclusive tag" Maybe we should combine the two? Dad?

 

[SoCalWizFan]

LOgic says we should.

But if the FO thinks like 30-50% of the fan base, we wil leither tag him and trade him, or Tag him and draft a rookie and look forward to our possible 6th round comp pick in 2019.

Cmon - most fans don't think like this - at least not the ones that I know in person. Don't base this off the rants of a couple of over-the-top people here who think that they know how to run an NFL team.

 

[j_y19]

I see that you don't read my posts that is why you are confused. Those three Qbs are all better than KC. You are the blank check kind of guy. I just love how you can predict a record without KC next year. lol. Comparing KC to Rodgers skinsdad? Cmon man you forgot to take your medicine this morning.

Alot of fans thought it was a good idea to over invest in a bad QB, and now they think its a good idea to NOT pay a good QB. As these tend to be the same lot of fans with both these opinions.

Alot of fans are stupid apparently.

Well, I know of at least one that appears to be very ignorant.

 

[deanpet21]

Well, I know of at least one that appears to be very ignorant.

Not ignorant at all. Just want to see all options available. How is that ignorant? You guys are the ignorant ones.

 

[j_y19]

Not ignorant at all. Just want to see all options available. How is that ignorant? You guys are the ignorant ones.

Dean, listen, you aren't fooling anyone. You have soured on KC and don't want him here. You would trade him for a ham sandwich. And that's OK, but be honest about it. We can have an intelligent debate about the merits of KC. But there is no intelligent debate to be had with someone who takes a false position and then can't defend it (because it is a ruse).

 

[SoCalWizFan]

It looks like we have at least one poster here who believes that most Redskins fans don't really value Cousins & won't mind moving on w/o him. Doesn't shock me in the least since his friends are probably as biased & as ignorant as him. I stand by my stance that IMO most Redskins fans want Cousins on the Redskins for the long term.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

BTW - that reply is not directed at Dean. The know-it-all poster knows who he is.

 

[deanpet21]

Dean, listen, you aren't fooling anyone. You have soured on KC and don't want him here. You would trade him for a ham sandwich. And that's OK, but be honest about it. We can have an intelligent debate about the merits of KC. But there is no intelligent debate to be had with someone who takes a false position and then can't defend it (because it is a ruse).

Fooling anyone? I have explained my stance multiple times on KC. Two first round picks are a ham sandwich? How is it a false position that some people value the saved money and the 2 first round picks? I finally got a number out of skinsdad on what his top number would be to pay KC. Shark gave a 50-60m number. So give me a number on how much you would go to keep KC. You never give details in your statements.

How is it an intelligent debate to just give KC whatever he wants and have no idea what we could get in a trade for him. talk about being narrow minded.

 

[j_y19]

Fooling anyone? I have explained my stance multiple times on KC. Two first round picks are a ham sandwich? How is it a false position that some people value the saved money and the 2 first round picks? I finally got a number out of skinsdad on what his top number would be to pay KC. Shark gave a 50-60m number. So give me a number on how much you would go to keep KC. You never give details in your statements.

How is it an intelligent debate to just give KC whatever he wants and have no idea what we could get in a trade for him. talk about being narrow minded.

Here is your false position. You want to keep KC, unless he gets a contract that makes him the highest paid QB, even if for a brief period of time. SO its all about optics. Which is BS. You either are sold KC is your guy or you are not. IF you are, you treat him fair and recognize that the dollar amount is not the issue. This has been explained to you adnaseum. If he isn't, then trade him now and get what ever you can get. But you take this nebulous position that as long as he isn't the highest paid, then you are ok. That is just, well, ignorant. But that's not your real issue. Your real issue is that he fucked up in the Giants game. It all boils down for you to one play. Just like your judgement of Kyle S. One play or one series. That, too, is just ignorant.

 

[deanpet21]

Here is your false position. You want to keep KC, unless he gets a contract that makes him the highest paid QB, even if for a brief period of time. SO its all about optics. Which is BS. You either are sold KC is your guy or you are not. IF you are, you treat him fair and recognize that the dollar amount is not the issue. This has been explained to you adnaseum. If he isn't, then trade him now and get what ever you can get. But you take this nebulous position that as long as he isn't the highest paid, then you are ok. That is just, well, ignorant. But that's not your real issue. Your real issue is that he fucked up in the Giants game. It all boils down for you to one play. Just like your judgement of Kyle S. One play or one series. That, too, is just ignorant.

Not ignorant just smart. There is a big difference from 50mg and 90mg. I think his asking price is way too high for his talent. A lot of other people do as well. So we are ignorant for thinking so? If he signed a deal like shark said in the 50-60 range then yes that is a fair deal for his talent a yes I would want him back. Even if I do like him as a Qb why do I have to pay top dollar? Doesn't make sense to me. matter for fact is what just said on NFL network last night that KC hasn't proved anything to warrant the contract that he expects to get. I think it was Garfollo from NFL network.

Kyle S. are you serious? This guy is undefendable right now. Not one play one serious. Try the whole frigin 4th qtr. The guy blew the Super Bowl. He should be judged very harshly.