MNF...

[futballiscool]

I think his stats are inflated and I don't think he is as good as his rep - That's my only point.

eh, that's fair enough. I think he's a great QB.

 

[cincygrad]

you could cherry pick a handful of games and hold them against any QB.

the guy's career speaks for itself. he's been an elite passer. his offense's score a ton of points... and he has a better career passer rating in games OUTSIDE of his division (not entirely suprsing since Bailey and Asomugha have been in his division before this season)..

he's a great QB. a few guys are better... and there are a couple of other ones you can argue.. but he's unquestionably in the discussion with the topflight QBs

I see your point - I really do. I just don't think he's as good as his numbers suggest. It's an interesting debate.

 

[flamingrey]

It is an interesting debate. But as far as the NFL is concerned, 10 years down the road, the circumstances won't matter. It'll be all about the numbers.

 

[flamingrey]

Let's go for 7 here.

 

[futballiscool]

I see your point - I really do. I just don't think he's as good as his numbers suggest. It's an interesting debate.

Yeah, QB deabtes are always impossible because there are so many factors that contribute to their stats and their team's success..

When I say he's on pace to be a HOFer I don't mean that I consider him a transcedent talent like an Elway or Marino. More like a Jim Kelly- a great player in the right system at the right time

 

[flamingrey]

Right on cue.

 

[Tubbs1518]

So Terry Bradshaw is a great QB cause he won 4 SB's and Marino is terrible cause he never won one? What about Jim Kelly? Rivers has been an great QB. He led the #1 offense last year. It's not his fault his ST routinely lost him games. And as far as never winning the big one does that make LT any less great? Or Gates any less great?

 

[flamingrey]

Coming back....

 

[vancelot23]

Jackie Battle just gave Kramer the win in our fantasy matchup. Fuck you Jackie Battle, I hope you have a career ending injury.

 

[flamingrey]

So Terry Bradshaw is a great QB cause he won 4 SB's and Marino is terrible cause he never won one? What about Jim Kelly? Rivers has been an great QB. He led the #1 offense last year. It's not his fault his ST routinely lost him games. And as far as never winning the big one does that make LT any less great? Or Gates any less great?

That's mostly besides the point since 99% of grad's argument has nothing to do with having won or not having won SB's.

 

[flamingrey]

Jackie Battle just gave Kramer the win in our fantasy matchup. Fuck you Jackie Battle, I hope you have a career ending injury.

It's coming back...not over yet.

 

[vancelot23]

A brief reprieve. I need a TD pass here.

 

[vancelot23]

Nope..There it is.

 

[flamingrey]

If that were Lenoard he would've used his hand as leverage to burst himself into the endzone.

Leonard = GOAT

 

[flamingrey]

I would like to formally apologize to Jackie Battle for calling him worse than Benson. Jackie can actually get into the endzone.

 

[vancelot23]

I actually need the Chargers to score here, prompting KC to need to throw more.

 

[Tubbs1518]

His argument is that he has never won anything and he plays in a weak division. That's all he has. How is 99% of his argument not that he hasn't won anything? And in defense to a weak division I'd say he has had to throw against some of the best CBs in the league. Bailey, Namdi, Flowers.

 

[Tubbs1518]

I need Steve Breaston to score 50 points.

 

[flamingrey]

TD

 

[vancelot23]

And 2.