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KC's defense is money or it blows. Very little in between.

Despite sucking last week, Oakland moved the ball on them all night. Same story tonight.
 

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And just as I say that, they go from garbage to money in a pinch.
 

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I don't think Rivers is that good.... Yes, he has put up really good numbers in his career. But if you look close, he's never been in a division where there has been a lot of competition. By the time he took over the starting job the Raiders were miserable, the Broncos were in transition and the Chiefs were spotty. He's had a great tight end (Gates), he's had good backs, and he has played in a proven offensive system (Turner).

Don't get me wrong - I think Rivers is a better than average qb - One of the top 15 in the league. But he's not a top 5 guy..... And unfortunately, that's how some people rated him.
 

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I don't think Rivers is that good.... Yes, he has put up really good numbers in his career. But if you look close, he's never been in a division where there has been a lot of competition. By the time he took over the starting job the Raiders were miserable, the Broncos were in transition and the Chiefs were spotty. He's had a great tight end (Gates), he's had good backs, and he has played in a proven offensive system (Turner).

Don't get me wrong - I think Rivers is a better than average qb - One of the top 15 in the league. But he's not a top 5 guy..... And unfortunately, that's how some people rated him.

wow...

I think the guy's having a HOF caliber career. couldn't disagree more
 

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I don't think Rivers is that good.... Yes, he has put up really good numbers in his career. But if you look close, he's never been in a division where there has been a lot of competition. By the time he took over the starting job the Raiders were miserable, the Broncos were in transition and the Chiefs were spotty. He's had a great tight end (Gates), he's had good backs, and he has played in a proven offensive system (Turner).

Don't get me wrong - I think Rivers is a better than average qb - One of the top 15 in the league. But he's not a top 5 guy..... And unfortunately, that's how some people rated him.

Excellent analysis. I've never thought of it as such. However, I could still fit him in the top 10.
 

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Ryan Mathews hits the turf when the wind picks up. :L So frustrating watching this offense struggle. They shouldn't be.
 

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Ryan Mathews hits the turf when the wind picks up. :L So frustrating watching this offense struggle. They shouldn't be.

Go Huskers!

(I really think I'm becoming a Huskers fan...must be a psychological thing...)
 

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Excellent analysis. I've never thought of it as such. However,I could still fit him in the top 10.



He's third alltime in career passer rating (behind Steve Young and Aaron Rodgers). He's never had a losing season.


this is a tough crowd
 

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Rivers has been a top 5 or 6 QB up to this year. This year..not so much. Bad call on the OPI on Gates.
 

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wow...

I think the guy's having a HOF caliber career. couldn't disagree more

I can see both sides of this argument.....I think Rivers needs to have greater playoff success before he's HOF though......
 

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The refs are controlling the game at this point. The players can't even play between penalties and replays.
 

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I can see both sides of this argument.....I think Rivers needs to have greater playoff success before he's HOF though......

He's definatley not in if he retires tommorow. But he's on pace to have that type of career (imo)
 

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Cable just lost his team 40 seconds in GREAT field position. He had NOTHING to lose taking the TO. He still could've ran the clock taking a knee all 3 downs. What a moron.

Marvin-esque.
 
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