MLB Dynasty Draft III : CHAT

[Ritzarmy]

OK guys so I would normally do a "Best and Worst" in the other forum, so I figured why not do it here. This just my opinion, based on my ranking on where I think drafters got good or bad value. Enjoy!




ROUND 1:



BEST: Barry Bonds - Smitty

- This one was a pretty tough call between Bonds and Randy Johnson for me. I consider Unit the best LHP of all time, so I thought his value would be in the top-10. Getting him at #14 was nice. But getting Bonds at #5, arguably the most dangerous hitter of all time, is a tremendous get for Smitty.



WORST: Jose Altuve - Stoke

- Man, im not going to lie, this pick through me for loop. I am one of Altuve’s biggest fans, and think he is a tremendous player. But 13th overall….. Im sorry I just can’t see that.





ROUND 2:



BEST: Alex Rodriguez - Devil

- This one wasn’t really close. A Rod is crazy value at 2/14, and should have been long gone. I was devastated when he went the pick before me. Mays/ARod is a tremendous start to a team, well done.



WORST: Hack Wilson - Stoke

- I swear I’m not picking on you, but man, Hack Wilson?!? Good ball player, not knocking him. But at 2/4, it just makes no sense. I don’t understand the argument that Hack Wilson is the 20th best player in MLB history.





ROUND 3:



BEST: Nolan Ryan - Ritzy

- Im not the biggest Ryan fan and tend to think he gets overdrafted in most of the drafts I have been a part of. However, I think this was a good spot for him. No other pick really stood out, and this was my best value pick.



WORST: Justin Verlander - Saxy

- Over Ryan, Carlton, Palmer, Glavine, Scherzer? I don’t know, personally I don’t like the value there of Verlander. Think he could have been gotten in the 5th or 6th and the pick could have been used somewhere else.





ROUND 4:



BEST: Joe Morgan - Chomp

- Not to toot my own horn here, but Morgan was great value. Arguably the best 2B of all time at the second to last pick in the 4th, thank you!



WORST: Willie Keeler - Stoke

- At this point I think you’re just kind of trolling and taking the shortest player you can. 5’6” 5’6” 5’7” and 5’4” are the 4 players you have picked thus far…





ROUND 5:



BEST: Tony Gwynn - Nos

- A guy who I always try to get, but just never ends up on my team. I loved his overall approach to the game, and his bat is just a useful thing to have in your lineup.



WORST: Nolan Arenado - Saxy

- So in all fairness, I did draft Arenado in our last MLB draft we just did. However, I took him much later. I just don’t see the argument for Arenado as the 5th best 3B ever.





ROUND 6:



BEST: Cal Ripken - BG

- Man 6/11 for Ripken? Well done sir. Great value, great pick. Big fan of Ripken, and to get him this late is a steal in my opinion.



WORST: Tommy Bond - Stoke

- Surprise! This guy is 5’7” lol





ROUND 7:



BEST: Vladimir Guerrero - 500

- This pick hurt, I was hoping he would fall back to me, and I really wanted his bat in my lineup. I may have Vlad rated higher than most, but I think he is a tremendous player and really good value here.



WORST: Omitting Stoke and his midget team:

- Dont really see a “worst” pick here. Everyone hit good value I think.





ROUND 8:



BEST: None

- Don’t really see a best pick here. Nothing really stands out. I like the Eddie Murray pick, but traded picks are tough for me to evaluate as “best” because of trade value win/loss.



WORST: Sammy Sosa - Bums

- One of my least favorite and in my opinion overrated players to ever play. .252 BA and a .311 OBP…. I get his later years bring down those averages, but he hit over .300 only 3 times and had an OBP over .400 only twice. I try not to let “steroid” use matter in my rankings, because honestly I don’t think its that big of a deal in most cases. But Sosa would have been an average player at best without drugs.





ROUND 9:



BEST: Larry Walker - Shane

- FBAS guys know, I usually end up with Walker in most drafts we do. I think he is an elite left handed bat, that gets under rated due to ball park. His away splits are still excellent and he could just fall out hit the baseball. Good value.



WORST: Satchel Paige - Ritzy

- When doing a strictly MLB only draft, I view Paige as a borderline undraftable player. He just didn’t do enough in his short amount of time. Unfortunately, he was far past his prime, and just wasn’t a “great” player then. In his prime, I consider him a top-10 pitcher of all time. But he wasn’t that player in the MLB.





ROUND 10:



BEST: Carlos Beltran - Shane

- Carlos Beltran ranks in the top-50 in 2B, HR, and RBIs. That shocked me when I was ranking my players. He is a do it all guy, who plays plus defense and was a terrific baserunner. Solid pick here and back to back bests for me.



WORST: George Davis - Smitty

- You pulling a stoke here and just trying to draft the shortest guy you can? Admittedly don’t know a ton about Davis, but a his stats are underwhelming, and with other teams not really dropping the ball this round; Davis got the nod.

See I saw Satchel Paige as he was in his overall career and didn’t think he would be judged just on his MLB playing days. I understand it’s a MLB draft but thought the no restrictions allowed me to get a steal of a player that great that late in the draft. Again it’s perception how we read the rules. We can agree he was a outstanding player but it’s up to the voter how they judge him. Fully see your point though.

 

[Ritzarmy]

war is nice but I dont rely on it. He is there due to longevity, othee factors, etc.

.276 .340 .447 .788

His 162 average was .278 23 HR’s 91 RBI’s

There is nothing top 50 player about those stat lines imo. Not sure if you are counting his iron man ability or something

Now I agree Cal Ripken is underrated in these drafts but I have no say because I loved watching Ripken play and was a huge Orioles fan for 20yrs.

 

[Mookie]

OK guys so I would normally do a "Best and Worst" in the other forum, so I figured why not do it here. This just my opinion, based on my ranking on where I think drafters got good or bad value. Enjoy!




ROUND 1:



BEST: Barry Bonds - Smitty

- This one was a pretty tough call between Bonds and Randy Johnson for me. I consider Unit the best LHP of all time, so I thought his value would be in the top-10. Getting him at #14 was nice. But getting Bonds at #5, arguably the most dangerous hitter of all time, is a tremendous get for Smitty.



WORST: Jose Altuve - Stoke

- Man, im not going to lie, this pick through me for loop. I am one of Altuve’s biggest fans, and think he is a tremendous player. But 13th overall….. Im sorry I just can’t see that.





ROUND 2:



BEST: Alex Rodriguez - Devil

- This one wasn’t really close. A Rod is crazy value at 2/14, and should have been long gone. I was devastated when he went the pick before me. Mays/ARod is a tremendous start to a team, well done.



WORST: Hack Wilson - Stoke

- I swear I’m not picking on you, but man, Hack Wilson?!? Good ball player, not knocking him. But at 2/4, it just makes no sense. I don’t understand the argument that Hack Wilson is the 20th best player in MLB history.





ROUND 3:



BEST: Nolan Ryan - Ritzy

- Im not the biggest Ryan fan and tend to think he gets overdrafted in most of the drafts I have been a part of. However, I think this was a good spot for him. No other pick really stood out, and this was my best value pick.



WORST: Justin Verlander - Saxy

- Over Ryan, Carlton, Palmer, Glavine, Scherzer? I don’t know, personally I don’t like the value there of Verlander. Think he could have been gotten in the 5th or 6th and the pick could have been used somewhere else.





ROUND 4:



BEST: Joe Morgan - Chomp

- Not to toot my own horn here, but Morgan was great value. Arguably the best 2B of all time at the second to last pick in the 4th, thank you!



WORST: Willie Keeler - Stoke

- At this point I think you’re just kind of trolling and taking the shortest player you can. 5’6” 5’6” 5’7” and 5’4” are the 4 players you have picked thus far…





ROUND 5:



BEST: Tony Gwynn - Nos

- A guy who I always try to get, but just never ends up on my team. I loved his overall approach to the game, and his bat is just a useful thing to have in your lineup.



WORST: Nolan Arenado - Saxy

- So in all fairness, I did draft Arenado in our last MLB draft we just did. However, I took him much later. I just don’t see the argument for Arenado as the 5th best 3B ever.





ROUND 6:



BEST: Cal Ripken - BG

- Man 6/11 for Ripken? Well done sir. Great value, great pick. Big fan of Ripken, and to get him this late is a steal in my opinion.



WORST: Tommy Bond - Stoke

- Surprise! This guy is 5’7” lol





ROUND 7:



BEST: Vladimir Guerrero - 500

- This pick hurt, I was hoping he would fall back to me, and I really wanted his bat in my lineup. I may have Vlad rated higher than most, but I think he is a tremendous player and really good value here.



WORST: Omitting Stoke and his midget team:

- Dont really see a “worst” pick here. Everyone hit good value I think.





ROUND 8:



BEST: None

- Don’t really see a best pick here. Nothing really stands out. I like the Eddie Murray pick, but traded picks are tough for me to evaluate as “best” because of trade value win/loss.



WORST: Sammy Sosa - Bums

- One of my least favorite and in my opinion overrated players to ever play. .252 BA and a .311 OBP…. I get his later years bring down those averages, but he hit over .300 only 3 times and had an OBP over .400 only twice. I try not to let “steroid” use matter in my rankings, because honestly I don’t think its that big of a deal in most cases. But Sosa would have been an average player at best without drugs.





ROUND 9:



BEST: Larry Walker - Shane

- FBAS guys know, I usually end up with Walker in most drafts we do. I think he is an elite left handed bat, that gets under rated due to ball park. His away splits are still excellent and he could just fall out hit the baseball. Good value.



WORST: Satchel Paige - Ritzy

- When doing a strictly MLB only draft, I view Paige as a borderline undraftable player. He just didn’t do enough in his short amount of time. Unfortunately, he was far past his prime, and just wasn’t a “great” player then. In his prime, I consider him a top-10 pitcher of all time. But he wasn’t that player in the MLB.





ROUND 10:



BEST: Carlos Beltran - Shane

- Carlos Beltran ranks in the top-50 in 2B, HR, and RBIs. That shocked me when I was ranking my players. He is a do it all guy, who plays plus defense and was a terrific baserunner. Solid pick here and back to back bests for me.



WORST: George Davis - Smitty

- You pulling a stoke here and just trying to draft the shortest guy you can? Admittedly don’t know a ton about Davis, but a his stats are underwhelming, and with other teams not really dropping the ball this round; Davis got the nod.

Agree with most of Chomps B/W.. I'll chime in with a few of my "bests"

1 & 2: same
3: I like us getting Frank Rob at 46 better than Nolan Ryan at 41. Johnny Bench at 42 my other fave there
4: same - love the Morgan pick there we debated taking him over Miggy near top of round
5: I'll give the edge to Devil taking Yaz over Gwynn there...slightly. Yaz was a beast and we had dreams of having the last 3 triple crown winners in the heart of our lineup
6: love Ripken at 91 but I like Wagner by Nos for this round better...locking down the best lefty closer ever (lefties an early theme for Nos)
7: Love me some Vladdy but tough to pin down a best for me for this round. Several I like, none really clear cut...Thome, McCovey, Clemente, Eckersley, Hoffman. If I had to choose 1 it's probably Clemente here
8: tough round....I'll go Goose Gossage because I always Target that guy and wanted to add him to our roster. Works as both a closer and inning eater - and he's a meanie which would have fit oh so nicely with our staff
9: I like Fergie Jenkins here. The run on middle infielders this round kinda sucked for us
10: beltran was a good get here for sure. Quisenberry (underrated af usually) and Sutter were very high on our board at that point too - love both

 

[Nosferatu]

I did text Meebs

 

[Mookie]

Trout a tad gone @Ritzarmy - you def woulda had my vote for best pick in the 14th tho!

 

[Shanemansj13]

Now I agree Cal Ripken is underrated in these drafts but I have no say because I loved watching Ripken play and was a huge Orioles fan for 20yrs.

I don't have anything against the guy and loved to watch him play. But the eye test can play tricks on us sometimes and imo this is one of those times. All I am saying, he isn't a top 50 player

 

[Nosferatu]

Best pick of round 1 was Lou Gehrig
Best pick of round 2 was Tris Speaker
Best pick of round 3 was Mel Ott
Best pick of round 4 was Eddie Matthews
Best pick of round 5 was Shoeless Joe Jackson
Best pick of round 6 was Harmon Killebrew
Best pick of round 7 was Roberto Clemente
Best pick of round 8 was Hoyt Wilhelm
Best pick of round 9 was Charlie Gehringer
Best pick of round 10 was Tom Henke
Best pick of round 11 was Luke Appling
Best pick of round 12 was Paul Waner
Best pick of round 13 was Jim Bunning

 

[Nosferatu]

he isn't a top 50 player

I think I could keep him out of the top 100

 

[Shanemansj13]

Best pick of round 1 was Lou Gehrig
Best pick of round 2 was Tris Speaker
Best pick of round 3 was Mel Ott
Best pick of round 4 was Eddie Matthews
Best pick of round 5 was Shoeless Joe Jackson
Best pick of round 6 was Harmon Killebrew
Best pick of round 7 was Roberto Clemente
Best pick of round 8 was Hoyt Wilhelm
Best pick of round 9 was Charlie Gehringer
Best pick of round 10 was Tom Henke
Best pick of round 11 was Luke Appling
Best pick of round 12 was Paul Waner
Best pick of round 13 was Jim Bunning

Crazy Shoeless Joe went in the 5th in this draft. I was about to take him then @UK Cowboy had to pull a dick move

 

[Ritzarmy]

Trout a tad gone @Ritzarmy - you def woulda had my vote for best pick in the 14th tho!

I seriously looked 6xs and was like how the hell is Trout still available. Oh well at least I got the best defensive player in the draft in Gary Payton.

 

[Shanemansj13]

@da55bums is up

 

[Nosferatu]

I did text Bums

 

[CitySushi]

Are you guys finished yet? I'm bored AF over here.

Lots of good value guys and then there's Stoke's team.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Are you guys finished yet? I'm bored AF over here.

Lots of good value guys and then there's Stoke's team.

Your in next draft, right? We are doing bowling...

 

[Mookie]

I think I could keep him out of the top 100

Wow. Surprising to me that you both have him so low. Where do you have him among SS?

 

[Nosferatu]

Wow. Surprising to me that you both have him so low. Where do you have him among SS?

120. Freddie Patek
121. Denny Hocking
122. Cal Ripken

 

[Mookie]

Are you guys finished yet? I'm bored AF over here.

Lots of good value guys and then there's Stoke's team.

We're starting an NFL draft tonight in our FB group...like to have a couple drafts going at once

 

[Shanemansj13]

Wow. Surprising to me that you both have him so low. Where do you have him among SS?

I could probably name 25 I like better including Omar...but I'm sure there are more

 

[Mookie]

Yeah that's pretty nuts to me but w/e to each his own

 

[Ritzarmy]

I think I could keep him out of the top 100

You shut your whore mouth.