Mike Mayock give Gilbert the back seat.

[lionstop1]

Some people like Mayock, some don't, but surely he knows more than we do. Going through some stuff, I came across Mayock's updated rankings of all the positions. The biggest moves were Manziel to #1 and Justin Gilbert to #3 on the CB list. Kyle Fuller takes over at #2 on the list with Dennard at one.

I like Gilbert the best, but I have to wonder what brought this on. Some of us would like Gilbert at ten. What do we think about this?

 

[Naughtymax]

I would agree that there is no clear #1CB in the draft, and nobody that comes without flaws. Dennard and Gilbert both look like they COULD be serviceable #1 CBs, but I'd put them at 50-50 at best. Not to say we shouldn't do it if Barr, Mack, Clowney, Watkins, Matthews, and Robinson are all gone and nobody wants to trade up for a QB.

 

[RobBase]

Almost nothing changes from the time the college season ends and the draft. Dennard has always been the top CB in this draft.

The Mayock's, the endless mock drafts, the experts, the articles, 24/7 NFL Network, moving guys up, moving guys down etc...etc...all that is just a business. Keep guys like us interested all year long. In the business world, we call this analysis paralysis.

Last year, some fans went back and forth for months trying to figure out what the Lions would do at 5. The Lions knew what they were doing at 5 the minute the Senior Bowl ended.

 

[Old Lion]

Actually, I was touting Fuller earlier in the year too. I think he has some serious upside. Not sure he is #2 though, but if he is there in the second round he would be worth a look for sure.


I think he is more potential then talent right now.


Surprised he made no mention of Jason Verrett. I know he is small but he looks like a potential Revis clone.

 

[lionstop1]

Maybe its yet to come, but I haven't heard any real praise for Dennard. I've seen more on Gilbert.

 

[tpaulus_2]

Maybe its yet to come, but I haven't heard any real praise for Dennard. I've seen more on Gilbert.

Agreed. Mayock is pretty much the only one with Dennard as the top CB in this class. I know we have a few State homers who probably think he is, too, but I think the consensus seems to be that his playing style won't translate well to the NFL...

 

[RobBase]

Do you guys remember last year when guys like Mayock had the Lions taking Damontre Moore or Bjorn Werner at 5, then both slipped out of the 1st round...

Think about that and ask yourself, is that the NFL scouts and teams dropping these guys from potential top 5 picks to 2nd/3rd rounders or is it just clueless journalists?

I admit I got WAY swept away by the TMZ media with Wisenhunt. I bit that hook, line, and sinker because I wanted to believe it. Then reality hit and Wis never even looked in the Lions direction.

You can't fault the media for moving guys up, down, throwing out 18 versions of mocks etc...it's a business. But rarely does anything these guys say have any real correlation to what NFL teams are actually doing.

 

[RobBase]

Agreed. Mayock is pretty much the only one with Dennard as the top CB in this class. I know we have a few State homers who probably think he is, too, but I think the consensus seems to be that his playing style won't translate well to the NFL...

Can someone ask TP if he can link this? I couldn't find the Dennard pro day stuff either. I have not heard this yet and would like to read more about it.

 

[Rollingthndr]

Same guy who said he liked Sanchez better than Stafford and Mccoy better than Suh.

Wrong and wrong.

 

[RobBase]

Same guy who said he liked Sanchez better than Stafford and Mccoy better than Suh.

Wrong and wrong.

Todd McShay's Mock Drafts Have Beaten Mike Mayock's And Mel Kiper's Four Years In A Row

Mayock is a great salesman, and a great on-air actor, but he is not a great football scout.

 

[RobBase]

More Mayock irregularities -

2014 NFL Draft: Taking a look at where Mike Mayock hit and missed over the years - SBNation.com

Remember, it was Mayock that had Lions fans (and other fan bases) all licking their chops for Aaron Curry the year Stafford came out. He also had Sanchez rated higher than Stafford that year.

 

[LPinSLC]

Todd McShay's Mock Drafts Have Beaten Mike Mayock's And Mel Kiper's Four Years In A Row

Mayock is a great salesman, and a great on-air actor, but he is not a great football scout.

Have they done this again? That article was from 2012. Curious about his 2013 accuracy compared to the hair and the mouth.


Kipers hair looks like a helmet. He should grow some facial hair so it looks like his helmet is equipped with a slobber guard.
I can't stand that clown.

 

[LPinSLC]

Can someone ask TP if he can link this? I couldn't find the Dennard pro day stuff either. I have not heard this yet and would like to read more about it.

TP, this is in reference to his Skill set not translating to the NFL.