McBath to IR

[Crimsoncrew]

49ers Place S Darcel McBath on IR

Wonder what happened. This puts Robinson in good position to make the team.

 

[supreme_clientele81]

49ers Place S Darcel McBath on IR

Wonder what happened. This puts Robinson in good position to make the team.

I read somewhere he hurt his foot in the KC game I'll try to find the link

 

[supreme_clientele81]

49ers Blog and Q&A: McBath goes on injured reserve; 49ers sign Holland

Didn't take long

 

[Dodub]

I thought Robinson was in much better position to make the team than McBath, Robinson was in both races but McBath was buried on the depth chart.

My question is that with McBath done, does Eric Reid finally get a permanent number and take #28? I just don't like the temporary number thing.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

I thought Robinson was in much better position to make the team than McBath, Robinson was in both races but McBath was buried on the depth chart.

My question is that with McBath done, does Eric Reid finally get a permanent number and take #28? I just don't like the temporary number thing.

Yeah, I forgot about Dahl. He's probably Robinson's biggest competition, if we only go with four safeties. McBath probably was outside looking in, anyway.

 

[Dodub]

Yeah, I forgot about Dahl. He's probably Robinson's biggest competition, if we only go with four safeties. McBath probably was outside looking in, anyway.

Yeah McBath was in a terrible position to begin with, he was in a worse position than Robinson who also is in a poor position. Robinson still has to battle Dahl (who can play both positions) and Spillman who also can play both positions and just happens to be one of our special teams leaders. Reid and Whitner are starters, so unless we keep 5 safeties, he is getting cut.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

Yeah McBath was in a terrible position to begin with, he was in a worse position than Robinson who also is in a poor position. Robinson still has to battle Dahl (who can play both positions) and Spillman who also can play both positions and just happens to be one of our special teams leaders. Reid and Whitner are starters, so unless we keep 5 safeties, he is getting cut.

I think there's a decent chance we keep five. Whitner is likely gone next year, and neither Dahl nor Spillman has much long-term starting potential.

 

[Dodub]

I think there's a decent chance we keep five. Whitner is likely gone next year, and neither Dahl nor Spillman has much long-term starting potential.

I honestly don't think any of them have starting potential, they are all back ups and I like Dahl best as a back up followed by Spillman. We will be looking for a new starting SS next year.

But do you think we would keep 5 safeties with the chance of us keeping 6 CB's?

 

[EaseUrStorm]

That worked out for McBath's wallet. For the final number a lot will depend on how many WR's, OLB's, and CB's are kept. Safeties can be very expendable. Spillman has a ST's spot carved out. If we end up keeping 5 safeties, both backups need to be better than Spillman. I don't see a lot of upside in Robinson to factor into the final decision. Whitner's on his last legs though, and you never really know what you have in a rookie until the season. Maybe they go with one less WR to start the season knowing that Manningham's coming back, and then release the extra safety at that point.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

I honestly don't think any of them have starting potential, they are all back ups and I like Dahl best as a back up followed by Spillman. We will be looking for a new starting SS next year.

But do you think we would keep 5 safeties with the chance of us keeping 6 CB's?

I'd think five at each position would be more likely. Though six and four might make the most sense. Robinson does have PS eligibility, though I'd think another team might take a shot at him.

In a perfect world, we might see Robinson take over at FS and move Reid into more of a SS role next year, but I've never heard particularly favorable reviews of Robinson's play.

 

[EaseUrStorm]

I'd love it if we draft a FS earlier next year and can move Reid to SS. Ideally someone with similar versatility who can cover better. Culliver could potentially be moved after this year which is another reason for keeping less safeties around. If he's targeted and struggles again I could easily see that happen.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

This conversation has reminded me of what a disappointment Reggie Smith was. He should have been one of our starting safeties at this point. Ugh.

As for Robinson, I'm not sold on him as a starter by any means, but on paper he's got some ability. He's on the small side, but he's got very long arms, ran in the 4.4s or low 4.5s, and did pretty well on the jumps. His scouting report coming out had him playing pretty well both in coverage and against the run. I like Spillman a lot on STs - his occasional mental lapses aside - but he doesn't seem to have the instincts for safety.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

I'd love it if we draft a FS earlier next year and can move Reid to SS. Ideally someone with similar versatility who can cover better. Culliver could potentially be moved after this year which is another reason for keeping less safeties around. If he's targeted and struggles again I could easily see that happen.

Yeah, that's probably what will happen. I'd just love to avoid using a high pick on safety again. Especially when we're already going to use one or two on CB. Hopefully we'll have two second rounders and three thirds, though.

 

[supreme_clientele81]

This conversation has reminded me of what a disappointment Reggie Smith was. He should have been one of our starting safeties at this point. Ugh.

As for Robinson, I'm not sold on him as a starter by any means, but on paper he's got some ability. He's on the small side, but he's got very long arms, ran in the 4.4s or low 4.5s, and did pretty well on the jumps. His scouting report coming out had him playing pretty well both in coverage and against the run. I like Spillman a lot on STs - his occasional mental lapses aside - but he doesn't seem to have the instincts for safety.

I think if he would have stayed he would have. Not sure why he left but I think if he would have stayed he would be the starter at FS & Reid would start at SS and we would have moved on from Whitner.

 

[h0ckeysk83r]

Spill man always struck me as maybe being a good hard hitting strong safety. I know he is known more for ST work but anybody think spill man has a shot of earning that SS role after Whitner is gone?

 

[Dodub]

This conversation has reminded me of what a disappointment Reggie Smith was. He should have been one of our starting safeties at this point. Ugh.

As for Robinson, I'm not sold on him as a starter by any means, but on paper he's got some ability. He's on the small side, but he's got very long arms, ran in the 4.4s or low 4.5s, and did pretty well on the jumps. His scouting report coming out had him playing pretty well both in coverage and against the run. I like Spillman a lot on STs - his occasional mental lapses aside - but he doesn't seem to have the instincts for safety.

Agreed. He should have been a starter but just struggled to stay healthy. Once Goldson came back it was pretty much over for him.

 

[EaseUrStorm]

Reggie Smith at one point had the starting job locked down in training camp following the Mays debacle when Goldson held out, but then Goldson surprisingly returned and he was relegated to obscurity. If circumstances were different he may have turned into a good player but his chance evaporated. I'm surprised he didn't catch on with the Panthers, and now I'd be surprised if he ever recovers. If we draft another safety early, then it's a very similar situation for Robinson who was also a lower draft pick.

Spillman is an awesome ST player. He scares the heck out of me as a safety even with his physical abilities. If he's forced out on the field for an extended period of time, teams will test him heavily and likely have success when he's out of position. I'd be much more comfortable switching a player like Culliver back to S and let Spillman do his thing on ST's.

 

[Dodub]

Reggie Smith at one point had the starting job locked down in training camp following the Mays debacle when Goldson held out, but then Goldson surprisingly returned and he was relegated to obscurity. If circumstances were different he may have turned into a good player but his chance evaporated. I'm surprised he didn't catch on with the Panthers, and now I'd be surprised if he ever recovers. If we draft another safety early, then it's a very similar situation for Robinson who was also a lower draft pick.

Spillman is an awesome ST player. He scares the heck out of me as a safety even with his physical abilities. If he's forced out on the field for an extended period of time, teams will test him heavily and likely have success when he's out of position. I'd be much more comfortable switching a player like Culliver back to S and let Spillman do his thing on ST's.

He had is locked up but Goldson signed a one year deal with us, he wasn't even holding out, he was looking for a contract for someone. We were his best suitor so he returned. But you are right when he returned, that sort of sealed Smith's fate.