MBBRL Suicide League A vs. B Challenge

[Bandit]

Okay guys, so I just went back and did the same challenge for last year so you could see how this will work out. Last year these were the draft number matchups with their head-to-head records against each other for the first 11 weeks included:

#1 spot was OBX vs. Fuzzy, Fuzzy advanced with a 6-5 record
#2 spot was Face vs. Sam, Sam advanced with a 6-5 record
#3 spot was Milk vs. TKO, Milk advanced with a 7-4 record
#4 spot was Trudem vs. Foot, Foot advanced with a 9-2 record
#5 spot was Micro vs. Monkey, Micro advanced with a 6-5 record
#6 spot was Bandit vs. Joe, Joe advanced with a 6-5 record
#7 spot was Shady vs. Barilko, Barilko advanced with a 6-5 record
#8 spot was Stomp vs. Lefty, Lefty advanced with a 10-1 record
#9 spot was Smitty vs. Chef, Chef advanced with a 7-4 record
#10 spot was Harold vs. Tlance, Harold advanced with an 8-3 record
#11 spot was BK vs. Ram, BK advanced with a 6-5 record
#12 spot was Steelers vs. Treff, Treff advanced with a 7-4 record

Overall in the head-to-head portion, the A league won 8 of the 12 battles and the A league also dominated the overall record at 74-58. Half of the head-to-head battles were 6-5 and it's not shocking that Lefty went 10-1, not because of anything Stomp did, but he did score like 200 more points than any other team in either league. With that being said, here is how the playoffs would have set up starting in week 12:

#1 seed Lefty (10-1)
#2 seed Foot (9-2)
#3 seed Harold (8-3)
#4 seed Milk (7-4 most points of the 7-4 teams)
#5 seed Chef (7-4 next most points of the 7-4 teams)
#6 seed Treff (7-4 least points of the 7-4 teams)
#7 seed Micro (6-5 most points of the 6-5 teams)
#8 seed Sam (6-5)
#9 seed Barilko (6-5)
#10 seed BK (6-5)
#11 seed Fuzzy (6-5)
#12 seed Joe (6-5 least points of the 6-5 teams)

Interesting note on the seeds, Treff was the #6 seed even though he finished the actual suicide league 3-11. Best actual record to not make the playoffs belonged to Shady at 10-4 in the B league who lost out to Barilko, and TKO in the A league was 9-5 but lost out to Milk.

Week 12 (1st round of the playoffs)

Byes go to Lefty, Foot, Harold, and Milk

#5 Chef (85) vs. #12 Joe (93.3)
#6 Treff (82.4) vs. #11 Fuzzy (68.7)
#7 Micro (97.3) vs. #10 BK (118.8)
#8 Sam (106.5) vs. #9 Barilko (91.9)

So with that round in the books, that eliminated 3 A leaguers and 1 B leaguer, which leaves 5 A leaguers and 3 B leaguers left for the next round and we go by NFL playoff rules instead of brackets so:

Week 13 (2nd round of the playoffs)

#1 Lefty (138.8) vs. #12 Joe (52.6)
#2 Foot (67) vs. #10 BK (112.7)
#3 Harold (63.2) vs. #8 Sam (84.1)
#4 Milk (86.6) vs. #6 Treff (106.5)

The only bye week team that would have won is Lefty and yes, 3-11 Treff would have made the semi-finals. That round would have eliminated 2 A leaguers and 2 B leaguers which leaves 3 A leaguers and 1 B leaguer in the semi-finals.

Week 14 (3rd round of the playoffs)

#1 Lefty (76.8) vs. #10 BK (63.4)
#6 Treff (64.2) vs. #8 Sam (78.2)

Some pretty pathetic semi-finals games with Sam scoring the most points at 78.2, which would have set up an A league clash between Lefty and Sam for the championship since BK was the last B league hope and Treff's luck finally ran out.

Week 15-16 (Championship round)

#1 Lefty (wk 15 - 97.9 + wk 16 - 146.1 = 244.0 total) vs. #8 Sam (wk 15 - 85.6 + wk 16 - 87.7 = 173.3 total)

So after all of that, it would have ended up exactly how it should have with Lefty winning the championship since he had by far the best team in suicide history last year averaging 112.2 points per week for the season.

And before anybody asks, no I'm not going back and doing previous seasons Now on to the doing the draft grades for this year.

 

[averagejoe]

Wow @Bandit all the work you did just for an explanation....

 

[leftypower]

Damn, wish I had that team in all my leagues. Key to it was no significant injuries for the season. .... Well, that and it was a pretty awesome collection of talent. .....

AWESOME WORK BANDIT !!!!!!!!!

 

[TREFF]

Okay guys, so I just went back and did the same challenge for last year so you could see how this will work out. Last year these were the draft number matchups with their head-to-head records against each other for the first 11 weeks included:

#1 spot was OBX vs. Fuzzy, Fuzzy advanced with a 6-5 record
#2 spot was Face vs. Sam, Sam advanced with a 6-5 record
#3 spot was Milk vs. TKO, Milk advanced with a 7-4 record
#4 spot was Trudem vs. Foot, Foot advanced with a 9-2 record
#5 spot was Micro vs. Monkey, Micro advanced with a 6-5 record
#6 spot was Bandit vs. Joe, Joe advanced with a 6-5 record
#7 spot was Shady vs. Barilko, Barilko advanced with a 6-5 record
#8 spot was Stomp vs. Lefty, Lefty advanced with a 10-1 record
#9 spot was Smitty vs. Chef, Chef advanced with a 7-4 record
#10 spot was Harold vs. Tlance, Harold advanced with an 8-3 record
#11 spot was BK vs. Ram, BK advanced with a 6-5 record
#12 spot was Steelers vs. Treff, Treff advanced with a 7-4 record

Overall in the head-to-head portion, the A league won 8 of the 12 battles and the A league also dominated the overall record at 74-58. Half of the head-to-head battles were 6-5 and it's not shocking that Lefty went 10-1, not because of anything Stomp did, but he did score like 200 more points than any other team in either league. With that being said, here is how the playoffs would have set up starting in week 12:

#1 seed Lefty (10-1)
#2 seed Foot (9-2)
#3 seed Harold (8-3)
#4 seed Milk (7-4 most points of the 7-4 teams)
#5 seed Chef (7-4 next most points of the 7-4 teams)
#6 seed Treff (7-4 least points of the 7-4 teams)
#7 seed Micro (6-5 most points of the 6-5 teams)
#8 seed Sam (6-5)
#9 seed Barilko (6-5)
#10 seed BK (6-5)
#11 seed Fuzzy (6-5)
#12 seed Joe (6-5 least points of the 6-5 teams)

Interesting note on the seeds, Treff was the #6 seed even though he finished the actual suicide league 3-11. Best actual record to not make the playoffs belonged to Shady at 10-4 in the B league who lost out to Barilko, and TKO in the A league was 9-5 but lost out to Milk.

Week 12 (1st round of the playoffs)

Byes go to Lefty, Foot, Harold, and Milk

#5 Chef (85) vs. #12 Joe (93.3)
#6 Treff (82.4) vs. #11 Fuzzy (68.7)
#7 Micro (97.3) vs. #10 BK (118.8)
#8 Sam (106.5) vs. #9 Barilko (91.9)

So with that round in the books, that eliminated 3 A leaguers and 1 B leaguer, which leaves 5 A leaguers and 3 B leaguers left for the next round and we go by NFL playoff rules instead of brackets so:

Week 13 (2nd round of the playoffs)

#1 Lefty (138.8) vs. #12 Joe (52.6)
#2 Foot (67) vs. #10 BK (112.7)
#3 Harold (63.2) vs. #8 Sam (84.1)
#4 Milk (86.6) vs. #6 Treff (106.5)

The only bye week team that would have won is Lefty and yes, 3-11 Treff would have made the semi-finals. That round would have eliminated 2 A leaguers and 2 B leaguers which leaves 3 A leaguers and 1 B leaguer in the semi-finals.

Week 14 (3rd round of the playoffs)

#1 Lefty (76.8) vs. #10 BK (63.4)
#6 Treff (64.2) vs. #8 Sam (78.2)

Some pretty pathetic semi-finals games with Sam scoring the most points at 78.2, which would have set up an A league clash between Lefty and Sam for the championship since BK was the last B league hope and Treff's luck finally ran out.

Week 15-16 (Championship round)

#1 Lefty (wk 15 - 97.9 + wk 16 - 146.1 = 244.0 total) vs. #8 Sam (wk 15 - 85.6 + wk 16 - 87.7 = 173.3 total)

So after all of that, it would have ended up exactly how it should have with Lefty winning the championship since he had by far the best team in suicide history last year averaging 112.2 points per week for the season.

And before anybody asks, no I'm not going back and doing previous seasons Now on to the doing the draft grades for this year.

Ok, first. .amazing work Bandit great stuff, duh


but


How in the F did i do any of that? My suicide squad sucked donkey balls.. Didn't even have a healthy RB for like 9-11 of those weeks

 

[Bandit]

Ok, first. .amazing work Bandit great stuff, duh


but


How in the F did i do any of that? My suicide squad sucked donkey balls.. Didn't even have a healthy RB for like 9-11 of those weeks

Well, fortunately for you, Steelers had a crappy team too. Apparently it came from drafting in the 12th spot!

 

[Bandit]

Wow @Bandit all the work you did just for an explanation....

Says the guy that will write an entire article to answer a question It's just who we are Joe. LOL.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Okay guys, so I just went back and did the same challenge for last year so you could see how this will work out. Last year these were the draft number matchups with their head-to-head records against each other for the first 11 weeks included:

#1 spot was OBX vs. Fuzzy, Fuzzy advanced with a 6-5 record
#2 spot was Face vs. Sam, Sam advanced with a 6-5 record
#3 spot was Milk vs. TKO, Milk advanced with a 7-4 record
#4 spot was Trudem vs. Foot, Foot advanced with a 9-2 record
#5 spot was Micro vs. Monkey, Micro advanced with a 6-5 record
#6 spot was Bandit vs. Joe, Joe advanced with a 6-5 record
#7 spot was Shady vs. Barilko, Barilko advanced with a 6-5 record
#8 spot was Stomp vs. Lefty, Lefty advanced with a 10-1 record
#9 spot was Smitty vs. Chef, Chef advanced with a 7-4 record
#10 spot was Harold vs. Tlance, Harold advanced with an 8-3 record
#11 spot was BK vs. Ram, BK advanced with a 6-5 record
#12 spot was Steelers vs. Treff, Treff advanced with a 7-4 record

Overall in the head-to-head portion, the A league won 8 of the 12 battles and the A league also dominated the overall record at 74-58. Half of the head-to-head battles were 6-5 and it's not shocking that Lefty went 10-1, not because of anything Stomp did, but he did score like 200 more points than any other team in either league. With that being said, here is how the playoffs would have set up starting in week 12:

#1 seed Lefty (10-1)
#2 seed Foot (9-2)
#3 seed Harold (8-3)
#4 seed Milk (7-4 most points of the 7-4 teams)
#5 seed Chef (7-4 next most points of the 7-4 teams)
#6 seed Treff (7-4 least points of the 7-4 teams)
#7 seed Micro (6-5 most points of the 6-5 teams)
#8 seed Sam (6-5)
#9 seed Barilko (6-5)
#10 seed BK (6-5)
#11 seed Fuzzy (6-5)
#12 seed Joe (6-5 least points of the 6-5 teams)

Interesting note on the seeds, Treff was the #6 seed even though he finished the actual suicide league 3-11. Best actual record to not make the playoffs belonged to Shady at 10-4 in the B league who lost out to Barilko, and TKO in the A league was 9-5 but lost out to Milk.

Week 12 (1st round of the playoffs)

Byes go to Lefty, Foot, Harold, and Milk

#5 Chef (85) vs. #12 Joe (93.3)
#6 Treff (82.4) vs. #11 Fuzzy (68.7)
#7 Micro (97.3) vs. #10 BK (118.8)
#8 Sam (106.5) vs. #9 Barilko (91.9)

So with that round in the books, that eliminated 3 A leaguers and 1 B leaguer, which leaves 5 A leaguers and 3 B leaguers left for the next round and we go by NFL playoff rules instead of brackets so:

Week 13 (2nd round of the playoffs)

#1 Lefty (138.8) vs. #12 Joe (52.6)
#2 Foot (67) vs. #10 BK (112.7)
#3 Harold (63.2) vs. #8 Sam (84.1)
#4 Milk (86.6) vs. #6 Treff (106.5)

The only bye week team that would have won is Lefty and yes, 3-11 Treff would have made the semi-finals. That round would have eliminated 2 A leaguers and 2 B leaguers which leaves 3 A leaguers and 1 B leaguer in the semi-finals.

Week 14 (3rd round of the playoffs)

#1 Lefty (76.8) vs. #10 BK (63.4)
#6 Treff (64.2) vs. #8 Sam (78.2)

Some pretty pathetic semi-finals games with Sam scoring the most points at 78.2, which would have set up an A league clash between Lefty and Sam for the championship since BK was the last B league hope and Treff's luck finally ran out.

Week 15-16 (Championship round)

#1 Lefty (wk 15 - 97.9 + wk 16 - 146.1 = 244.0 total) vs. #8 Sam (wk 15 - 85.6 + wk 16 - 87.7 = 173.3 total)

So after all of that, it would have ended up exactly how it should have with Lefty winning the championship since he had by far the best team in suicide history last year averaging 112.2 points per week for the season.

And before anybody asks, no I'm not going back and doing previous seasons Now on to the doing the draft grades for this year.

I lost the finals in B league last year, but couldn't get out of the first round in this. At least if I had to lose, I lost to the team that won it all.

 

[averagejoe]

Says the guy that will write an entire article to answer a question It's just who we are Joe. LOL.

I may research a few players a dig a little into recent history.
I don't recreate an entire league head-to-head, complete with playoffs.
I bow to you, sir. We're not worthy.

 

[averagejoe]

Mike Williams has a disc issue. May linger into preseason?
Eric Decker is rumored to be traded/cut.

Ah, I love the smell of casualties in the morning.

 

[TREFF]

Mike Williams has a disc issue. May linger into preseason?
Eric Decker is rumored to be traded/cut.

Ah, I love the smell of casualties in the morning.

Decker, like Maclin, might be a blessing. Plenty of teams with decent QB play could use stable consistent vets like them, and both still have plenty in the tank

 

[Ritzarmy]

It's awesome seeing ALL my RB's with Q next to their name already.

 

[tlance]

Tlance vs the milkster

Tlance

QB1- Drew Brees
QB2- Carson Wentz
RB1- Christian McCaffrey
RB2- Bilal Powell
RB3- Samaje Perine
RB4- Kenneth Dixon
WR1- Odell Beckham
WR2- Jordy Nelson
WR3- Emanual Sanders
WR4- Devante Parker
WR5- Jordan Matthews
TE- Kyle Rudolph
K- Dan Bailey
D- Texans

MILK

QB1- Drew Brees
QB2- Jameis Winston
RB1- Leonard Fournette
RB2- Joe Mixon
RB3- Kareem Hunt
RB4- Marlon Mack
WR1- TY hilton
WR2- Davonte Adams
WR3- Kelvin Benjamin
WR4- Golden Tate
WR5- Kevin White
TE- David Njoku
K- Dan Bailey
D- Texans

Clearly, I win Defense and Tlance wins kicker... so lets not even analyze that....

QB- Best case scenario is a push, Worst case scenario Mllk wins in a landslide... Drew brees has been trending as a home start only, if this is true, then Winston turns this into a lop sided competition.... Milk wins

RB- the all rookie squad by milk is near impossible to analyze, you are either high on them or not... but the thing is Tlance is anchored by a rookie and his bench is anchored by a rookie... so it is hard not to favor Milk since his rookies are just BETTER projected than Tlance's. But the margin is impossible to predict.

WR- Tlance wins this hands down, or hands up... however you want your hands to be... BOTH teams have a high potential bench... Tlance wins...

TE- both teams are counting ONLY on one TE... i wanted to draft Rudolph, but missed badly... Even though Njoku is a rookie, and TE rookies are historically non existent... BUT this Browns team has NOBODY else, and will be playing from behind a lot... I have a hard time believing that Njoku will not be active all season, and productive....
BUT with that said, you have to give the win to the safe Rudolph, who was a top 5 TE last season...

to summarize

QB- Milk
RB- Milk
WR- Tlance
TE- Tlance
D- MILK
K- Tlance

so both owners won 3 of the position categories....

close match, but for the PRESEASON, the favorite has to be @tlance ...

but i think I have the better upside...

Your analysis is pretty spot on.

I think our matchups will be decided by when you choose to start Winston over Brees and whether that is the correct choice, and also by the RBs. I did not invest nearly as much in mine, so I don't need the same level of production, but I am hoping they can keep it close.

 

[Bandit]

@averagejoe @leftypower @TKOSpikes @Ram Tough @tlance @Yellow Fuzzies @Barilko @The Foot @Sam Sportboy @SmokingMonkey @TREFF @femurov @Stomp @ehb5 @SteelersPride @FaCe-LeE-uS @SoShady @MilkSpiller22 @obxyankeefan @bksballer89 @HaroldSeattle @Ritzarmy @Trudem

Okay guys I finally have it done. My goal was to get it done by July 1st when we had to vote and I reached it and since it's not looking like we are even going to have to vote, this will give you guys something to read today. Let me start off by saying that even with all the stuff I do, this is the hardest each year and I have the utmost respect for all of you as fantasy football players and adversaries and I don't pretend that I know more than any of you in regards to fantasy football, it's just strictly my opinion. This year's draft grades are done by pick number in honor of the A vs. B suicide which is why I'm posting it on this thread, so each pick number will get it's own post. Now, I’m grading these based on the information at the time of the draft, not where changes have been made since then like Eric Decker going to the Titans or Jeremy Maclin going to the Ravens. Just so you guys know, this ended up being 20 pages long in Word and just retyping all the rosters in took 5 hours one night. With that being said, here we go with the

#1 spot – Average Joe vs. Femurov:​

A league #1 - Average Joe

QB1 – Russell Wilson (7th round, 73rd overall)
QB2 – Eli Manning (10th round, 120th overall)
RB1 – David Johnson (1st round, 1st overall)
RB2 – Frank Gore (5th round, 49th overall)
RB3 – Duke Johnson (8th round, 96th overall)
RB4 – Danny Woodhead (9th round, 97th overall)
WR1 – Amari Cooper (2nd round, 24th overall)
WR2 – Jarvis Landry (3rd round, 25th overall)
WR3 – Julian Edelman (4th round, 48th overall)
WR4 – Robert Woods (11th round, 121st overall)
TE1 – Delanie Walker (6th round, 72nd overall)
TE2 – Julius Thomas (12th round, 144th overall)
K – Stephen Gostkowski (13th round, 145th overall)
D/ST – Eagles (14th round, 168th overall)


Let me start off by saying that I honestly think this is one of the hardest spots to draft from. You can’t just go with the flow of the draft and if one position starts flying off the board, you are just at the mercy of the rest of the draft as you watch 23 freaking picks go before you get to pick again. With that being said, it’s really hard to gauge whether certain players would have been there when he picked the next time. Yes, in the B league draft Jarvis Landry fell to the 5th round and Frank Gore to the 6th round, but there’s no way to know if they would have in the A league. Yes, Landry at 25 was a reach and I know your argument here Joe is that his numbers say that he could back that value up, but the real question is if you could have let him fall to the 4/5 wrap around and whether he would have still been there. Let’s say that he wasn’t. Let’s say in the 3rd round instead of Landry you took Isaiah Crowell there and Landry gets taken by somebody else. So in the 4th you took Edelman and in the 5th instead of Gore let’s say you take Golden Tate, who was still there with that pick. So would you rather have Crowell and Tate or Gore and Landry. Of course this is a rhetorical question and you don’t have to answer it, and I know that you were probably thinking that one of the 11 running backs that got drafted in rounds 5 and 6 should have fallen to you at the end of that round, but they didn’t. I like what you did with the rest of the draft as Delanie Walker is a great pick at 72 and even Russell Wilson at 73. You got a couple of third down backs that are guaranteed some touches every game and you drafted my favorite backup quarterback this year in Eli. You got Robert Woods who I really like this year and I know you would have liked to get a 5th running back or wide receiver, but I think you did the right thing in backing up Delanie Walker just because of his age.


Overall Grade: B-

Best pick – David Johnson. Yes it was #1, but I don’t care. That guy is a monster.

Worst pick – Jarvis Landry at #25

Record – 6-8


B league #1 - Femurov

QB1 – Derek Carr (8th round, 96th overall)
QB2 – Alex Smith (12th round, 144th overall)
RB1 – David Johnson (1st round, 1st overall)
RB2 – Lamar Miller (2nd round, 24th overall)
RB3 – Frank Gore (6th round, 72nd overall)
RB4 – Jeremy Hill (10th round, 120th overall)
WR1 – Amari Cooper (3rd round, 25th overall)
WR2 – Jarvis Landry (5th round, 49th overall)
WR3 – Larry Fitzgerald (7th round, 73rd overall)
WR4 – Brandon Marshall (9th round, 97th overall)
WR5 – Randall Cobb (11th round, 121st overall)
TE1- Travis Kelce (4th round, 48th overall)
K – Sebastian Janikowski (14th round, 168th overall)
D/ST – Giants (13th round, 145th overall)

I’ll be honest, this was actually the first team I graded and it made things really hard because the grade I gave him held up as the best one of both leagues. I couldn’t find a flaw in it. I might have drafted a backup quarterback before he did just because Carr did get injured at the end of last year, but the value he got in his running backs and wide receivers in rounds 9-11 is pretty good, so it’s hard to make that argument. Getting Lamar Miller as the 2nd running back really makes this team look so much better and the depth at wide receiver is the best in the league. To go along with that, he has (in my opinion at least) the best tight end also. Kudos to you Femurov. Normally when you take a tight end in the first six rounds it is very difficult to not be weak at either wide receiver or running back, but that was no problem here. Jeremy Hill in the 10th round might have been a bit of a reach (he went undrafted in A) but I really don’t think they are just going to hand over the keys to the kingdom to Joe Mixon and at the very least I’m sure Hill will still get the goal line carries. And let’s face it, he’s an RB4 so your hoping not to have to play him anyway.

Overall Grade: A

Best pick – Probably value wise it is Brandon Marshall at 97, or Cobb at 121, or Landry at 49, or Gore at 72, take your pick.

Worst pick – I have to go with Alex Smith because of a lack of other options, but after you took Carr in the 8th, 8 quarterbacks were taken before you picked again, so I get why you didn’t bother until to take your backup until the 12th.

Record – 10-4 (#1 seed in the B league)


A vs. B comparison

Well after reading the first part, it should come as no shock that I’m going with Femorov here to go 8-3 and be the #2 seed for the playoff challenge. He just got such better value with his guys. If Joe is going to have a chance, he’s going to need Gore to stay healthy because his backups just aren’t as good as Femurov’s and he’s going to need to get a big advantage out of his quarterbacks. I think as long as Kelce stays healthy for Femurov he is going to be very tough to beat. That’s 1 for the B league if you’re keeping score at home.

 

[Bandit]

#2 spot – Lefty vs. Shady​

A league #2 - Leftypower

QB1 – Derek Carr (9th round, 98th overall)
QB2 – Blake Bortles (10th round, 119th overall)
RB1 – Leveon Bell (1st round, 2nd overall)
RB2 – Lamar Miller (2nd round, 23rd overall)
RB3 – Ty Montgomery (6th round, 71st overall)
RB4 – Matt Forte (11th round, 122nd overall)
WR1 – Dez Bryant (3rd round, 26th overall)
WR2 – Golden Tate (5th round, 50th overall)
WR3 – Larry Fitzgerald (7th round, 74th overall)
WR4 – Stefon Diggs (8th round, 95th overall)
WR5 – Ted Ginn (14th round, 167th overall)
TE1 – Travis Kelce (4th round, 47th overall)
K – Matt Bryant (13th round, 146th overall)
D/ST – Ravens (12th round, 143rd overall)

Lefty always has a solid draft and I really like him getting Lamar Miller at the tail end of the 2nd. He probably has the best balance depth wise at running back and wide receiver in the A league. It normally hurts your depth at those two positions a little bit when you take a tight end early, but by getting Tate in the 5th, Montgomery in the 6th, and then getting Fitzgerald and Diggs in the 7th and 8th, he is solid at both positions. Getting Forte in the 11th round was just icing on the cake of a great draft as I don’t care if Bilal Powell is younger and a better option, getting anybody that will average around 15 touches a game at running back in the 11th round is a flat out steal. Most of his season will rest will the health of Derek Carr. Personally I like Kirk Cousins a little more, but Carr should be solid and has plenty of weapons. A really good overall draft.

Overall Grade: A-

Best pick – Matt Forte in the 11th round and even though I don’t like him, Dez in the 3rd round was great value also

Worst pick – Blake Bortles. I know why he did it, because Bortles has great matchups the weeks that Carr plays Denver and during his bye, but I think I would rather have had Eli or Tyrod Taylor there because they will be better over the course of the whole season and Carr is coming off an injury.

Record – 9-5 (#1 seed in the A league)

B League #2 - SoShady

QB1 – Marcus Mariota (9th round, 98th overall)
QB2 – Carson Wentz (11th round, 122th overall)
RB1 – Ezekiel Elliott (1st round, 2nd overall)
RB2 – Marshawn Lynch (3rd round, 26th overall)
RB3 – Tevin Coleman (5th round, 50th overall)
RB4 – Legarrette Blount (7th round, 74th overall)
WR1 – Brandin Cooks (2nd round, 23rd overall)
WR2 – Tyreek Hill (4th round, 47th overall)
WR3 – Martavis Bryant (6th round, 71st overall)
WR4 – Jamison Crowder (8th round, 95th overall)
TE1 – Martellus Bennett (10th round, 119th overall)
TE2 – Kyle Rudolph (13th round, 146th overall)
K – Adam Vinatieri (12th round, 143rd overall)
D/ST – Raiders (14th round, 167th overall)

This was a solid draft and I absolutely love the value on some of the picks and then some of them were way too early for my taste, but once again, drafting from the 2nd spot, it’s a long way for somebody to get back to you between picks. Love Ezekiel Elliott this year, but who doesn’t? I think the 21st pick was a little too early for Brandin Cooks, but if he really wanted him and didn’t take him at the 2-3 turn, he wasn’t going to be there when it got back to him. I also think that Marshawn Lynch going in the 3rd round is too early. I’m just not convinced that a guy coming out of retirement after having an injury plagued last season is going to get you 26th overall pick value. Now keep in mind that I drafted him in dynasty, so I don’t hate him, but in redraft leagues that just seems too early to me. Tyreek Hill at pick 47 is just too early and it’s not that he’s not capable with that kind of talent, but it’s the offense he plays in and they fact that it was possible he would have still been there at pick 71, even though he did go earlier than that in the A league. The Tevin Coleman pick probably didn’t make the Devonta Freeman owner too happy, but he is already a solid RB2 and he’s one injury to Freeman away from being a top 5 fantasy back. My favorite picks were rounds 7-8 getting Legarrette Blount at #74 and Jamison Crowder at #95 as I think both will have solid seasons for that value. Mariota certainly has the weapons now to be a top 6 or 7 fantasy quarterback this season and while I’m not sold on Wentz and hate 2nd year quarterbacks, he certainly got an upgrade to his offense as well. I’m not crazy about Martellus Bennett or Kyle Rudolph, but hey, they are tight ends, so I’m not crazy about most of them. Overall it was a solid draft.

Overall Grade: B-

Best pick – Jamison Crowder at #95, they lost Garcon and Jackson, Terrelle Pryor isn’t taking all of those targets.

Worst pick – Marshawn Lynch at #26, I just don’t see him being worth that pick number

Record – 7-7


A vs. B comparison

I think Lefty comes through here with his depth at running back and wide receiver, and he has a huge advantage as long as Kelce can stay healthy. I think this one is closer than the experts think (I love when other “experts” say that shit) and Lefty goes 6-5 to advance to the playoffs. These two have absolutely no players in common.

 

[femurov]

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Okay guys I finally have it done. My goal was to get it done by July 1st when we had to vote and I reached it and since it's not looking like we are even going to have to vote, this will give you guys something to read today. Let me start off by saying that even with all the stuff I do, this is the hardest each year and I have the utmost respect for all of you as fantasy football players and adversaries and I don't pretend that I know more than any of you in regards to fantasy football, it's just strictly my opinion. This year's draft grades are done by pick number in honor of the A vs. B suicide which is why I'm posting it on this thread, so each pick number will get it's own post. Now, I’m grading these based on the information at the time of the draft, not where changes have been made since then like Eric Decker going to the Titans or Jeremy Maclin going to the Ravens. Just so you guys know, this ended up being 20 pages long in Word and just retyping all the rosters in took 5 hours one night. With that being said, here we go with the

#1 spot – Average Joe vs. Femurov:​

A league #1 - Average Joe

QB1 – Russell Wilson (7th round, 73rd overall)
QB2 – Eli Manning (10th round, 120th overall)
RB1 – David Johnson (1st round, 1st overall)
RB2 – Frank Gore (5th round, 49th overall)
RB3 – Duke Johnson (8th round, 96th overall)
RB4 – Danny Woodhead (9th round, 97th overall)
WR1 – Amari Cooper (2nd round, 24th overall)
WR2 – Jarvis Landry (3rd round, 25th overall)
WR3 – Julian Edelman (4th round, 48th overall)
WR4 – Robert Woods (11th round, 121st overall)
TE1 – Delanie Walker (6th round, 72nd overall)
TE2 – Julius Thomas (12th round, 144th overall)
K – Stephen Gostkowski (13th round, 145th overall)
D/ST – Eagles (14th round, 168th overall)


Let me start off by saying that I honestly think this is one of the hardest spots to draft from. You can’t just go with the flow of the draft and if one position starts flying off the board, you are just at the mercy of the rest of the draft as you watch 23 freaking picks go before you get to pick again. With that being said, it’s really hard to gauge whether certain players would have been there when he picked the next time. Yes, in the B league draft Jarvis Landry fell to the 5th round and Frank Gore to the 6th round, but there’s no way to know if they would have in the A league. Yes, Landry at 25 was a reach and I know your argument here Joe is that his numbers say that he could back that value up, but the real question is if you could have let him fall to the 4/5 wrap around and whether he would have still been there. Let’s say that he wasn’t. Let’s say in the 3rd round instead of Landry you took Isaiah Crowell there and Landry gets taken by somebody else. So in the 4th you took Edelman and in the 5th instead of Gore let’s say you take Golden Tate, who was still there with that pick. So would you rather have Crowell and Tate or Gore and Landry. Of course this is a rhetorical question and you don’t have to answer it, and I know that you were probably thinking that one of the 11 running backs that got drafted in rounds 5 and 6 should have fallen to you at the end of that round, but they didn’t. I like what you did with the rest of the draft as Delanie Walker is a great pick at 72 and even Russell Wilson at 73. You got a couple of third down backs that are guaranteed some touches every game and you drafted my favorite backup quarterback this year in Eli. You got Robert Woods who I really like this year and I know you would have liked to get a 5th running back or wide receiver, but I think you did the right thing in backing up Delanie Walker just because of his age.


Overall Grade: B-

Best pick – David Johnson. Yes it was #1, but I don’t care. That guy is a monster.

Worst pick – Jarvis Landry at #25

Record – 6-8


B league #1 - Femurov

QB1 – Derek Carr (8th round, 96th overall)
QB2 – Alex Smith (12th round, 144th overall)
RB1 – David Johnson (1st round, 1st overall)
RB2 – Lamar Miller (2nd round, 24th overall)
RB3 – Frank Gore (6th round, 72nd overall)
RB4 – Jeremy Hill (10th round, 120th overall)
WR1 – Amari Cooper (3rd round, 25th overall)
WR2 – Jarvis Landry (5th round, 49th overall)
WR3 – Larry Fitzgerald (7th round, 73rd overall)
WR4 – Brandon Marshall (9th round, 97th overall)
WR5 – Randall Cobb (11th round, 121st overall)
TE1- Travis Kelce (4th round, 48th overall)
K – Sebastian Janikowski (14th round, 168th overall)
D/ST – Giants (13th round, 145th overall)

I’ll be honest, this was actually the first team I graded and it made things really hard because the grade I gave him held up as the best one of both leagues. I couldn’t find a flaw in it. I might have drafted a backup quarterback before he did just because Carr did get injured at the end of last year, but the value he got in his running backs and wide receivers in rounds 9-11 is pretty good, so it’s hard to make that argument. Getting Lamar Miller as the 2nd running back really makes this team look so much better and the depth at wide receiver is the best in the league. To go along with that, he has (in my opinion at least) the best tight end also. Kudos to you Femurov. Normally when you take a tight end in the first six rounds it is very difficult to not be weak at either wide receiver or running back, but that was no problem here. Jeremy Hill in the 10th round might have been a bit of a reach (he went undrafted in A) but I really don’t think they are just going to hand over the keys to the kingdom to Joe Mixon and at the very least I’m sure Hill will still get the goal line carries. And let’s face it, he’s an RB4 so your hoping not to have to play him anyway.

Overall Grade: A

Best pick – Probably value wise it is Brandon Marshall at 97, or Cobb at 121, or Landry at 49, or Gore at 72, take your pick.

Worst pick – I have to go with Alex Smith because of a lack of other options, but after you took Carr in the 8th, 8 quarterbacks were taken before you picked again, so I get why you didn’t bother until to take your backup until the 12th.

Record – 10-4 (#1 seed in the B league)


A vs. B comparison

Well after reading the first part, it should come as no shock that I’m going with Femorov here to go 8-3 and be the #2 seed for the playoff challenge. He just got such better value with his guys. If Joe is going to have a chance, he’s going to need Gore to stay healthy because his backups just aren’t as good as Femurov’s and he’s going to need to get a big advantage out of his quarterbacks. I think as long as Kelce stays healthy for Femurov he is going to be very tough to beat. That’s 1 for the B league if you’re keeping score at home.

I agree with this post...

 

[Bandit]

#3 Spot - TKO vs. EHB5​

A League #3 - TKO

QB1 – Aaron Rodgers (2nd round, 22nd overall)
QB2 – Kirk Cousins (9th round, 99th overall)
RB1 – Ezekiel Elliott (1st round, 3rd overall)
RB2 – Eddie Lacy (6th round, 70th overall)
RB3 – Derrick Henry (7th round, 75th overall)
RB4 – Theo Riddick (10th round, 118th overall)
WR1 – Davante Adams (3rd round, 27th overall)
WR2 – Cameron Meredith (5th round, 51st overall)
WR3 – Desean Jackson (8th round, 94th overall)
WR4 – Mike Wallace (11th round, 123rd overall)
TE1 – Jimmy Graham (4th round, 46th overall)
K – Matt Prater (14th round, 166th overall)
D/ST1 – Giants (12th round, 142nd overall)
D/ST2 – Bucs (13th round, 147th overall)


TKO started off the draft with the no brainer of Zeke in the 1st who will be a monster this year. He was the first to take a quarterback in either league with the 22nd pick which I have no problem with, but what I don’t understand is taking Kirk Cousins in the 9th round which is really early to take a backup that you are only going to play one week when there were still plenty of running back and wide receiver options out there. I like Devante Adams this year, but the Jimmy Graham pick at #46 overall I just don’t understand. Forget that he was the 2nd tight end taken ahead of Travis Kelce, Jordan Reed, and Greg Olsen, but even if you did want Graham, you could have at least waited until the 6-7 turn and taken him with one of those picks (Graham went in the 9th round of the B league). I also think that Cam Meredith going at pick #51 overall was way too high and he could have waited a few rounds to take him as well (he went in the 10th round of the B league). Lacy in the 6th could be great value if he can keep his weight down and I hated him for the Derrick Henry pick in round 7 as that was going to be my next pick to pair with Demarco Murray. I really like the upside of Desean Jackson this year and I thought it was an interesting strategy to go with 2 defenses when I think either a 5th wide receiver or 2nd tight end (with Graham’s injury history) would have made more sense. Overall I think he will have the highest scoring pair of quarterbacks this year, but unfortunately he can’t play both of them at the same time.

Overall Grade: C+

Best pick – Mike Wallace in the 11th round was great value for a guy that had 1000 yards receiving last year.

Worst pick – Jimmy Graham at pick 46 was just way too early

Record – 5-8-1


B League #3 - EHB5

QB1 – Cam Newton (8th round, 94th overall)
QB2 – Tyrod Taylor (10th round, 118th overall)
RB1 – Leveon Bell (1st round, 3rd overall)
RB2 – Dalvin Cook (5th round, 51st overall)
RB3 – Derrick Henry (6th round, 70th overall)
RB4 – Samaje Perine (7th round, 75th overall)
WR1 – Dez Bryant (2nd round, 22nd overall)
WR2 – Deandre Hopkins (3rd round, 27th overall)
WR3 – Terrelle Pryor (4th round, 46th overall)
WR4 – Willie Snead (9th round, 99th overall)
WR5 – Mike Williams (11th round, 123rd overall)
TE1 – Eric Ebron (12th round, 142nd overall)
K – Dustin Hopkins (14th round, 166th overall)
D/ST – Redskins (13th round, 147th overall)


EHB benefited greatly from Shady going with Elliott as Leveon Bell fell in his lap and I really like the receivers that he got in rounds 2-4 with Dez, Deandre Hopkins, and Terrelle Pryor. Actually I like Willie Snead and Mike Williams as well to round out his receiving corps, but so much is going to depend on the playing time of his other running backs with Dalvin Cook in kind of a mess in Minnesota but clearly the most talented, Derrick Henry playing 2nd fiddle to Demarco Murray, and Samaje Perrine could be the man in Washington, but my gut tells me it will be more of a time share there, so there are some big question marks at running back. I think Cam Newton in the 8th round was great value as he will have a bounce back year, but so much of his value hinges on his running ability and he seemed to get a little bit gun shy after getting his bell rung on the goal line last year, although I like backing him up with Tyrod Taylor who is great in fantasy and not so great in leading his team to wins. The big risk was at tight end in only drafting Eric Ebron who should be better this year, but not so much that I’d feel confident in only having him on my team. I normally don’t mention defenses unless there’s a big advantage or disadvantage and I can assure you that this will be the only time I see the Redskins defense selected. I know that you are a Redskins fan, but Dustin Hopkins should have been enough to satisfy that.

Overall Grade: C+ (although if he drafted like any other defense I would have raised it to a B-)

Best pick – Cam Newton and Willie Snead in the 8th and 9th rounds, love both picks.

Worst pick – the Redskins defense, seriously, Tlance wouldn’t even do that

Record – 7-7


A vs. B comparison

This was one of the hardest to pick a winner in. I think running back is pretty even and I think EHB has a big advantage at wide receiver, but TKO has a better tight end and a distinct advantage on defense regardless of which one he plays. If Cam can finish as a top 5 quarterback I think EHB wins this, but if he doesn’t, I think the advantage of TKO having Rodgers might make up for the disadvantage at wide receiver, so I’m going with TKO to advance at 6-5 but just barely.

 

[Bandit]

#4 Spot - Ram vs. Bksballer​

A League #4 - Ram

QB1 – Cam Newton (8th round, 93rd overall)
QB2 – Joe Flacco (14th round, 165th overall)
RB1 – Marshawn Lynch (2nd round, 21st overall)
RB2 – Joe Mixon (3rd round, 28th overall)
RB3 – Ameer Abdullah (6th round, 69th overall)
RB4 – Kareem Hunt (7th round, 76th overall)
WR1 – Antonio Brown (1st round, 4th overall)
WR2 – Michael Crabtree (4th round, 45th overall)
WR3 – Kelvin Benjamin (5th round, 52nd overall)
WR4 – Randall Cobb (10th round, 117th overall)
WR5 – Adam Thielen (11th round, 124th overall)
TE1 – Jack Doyle (9th round, 100th overall)
K – Adam Vinatieri (13th round, 148th overall)
D/ST – Vikings (12th round, 141st overall)

Ram got to start the draft with Antonio Brown with the 4th pick, but then taking Lynch with the 21st overall pick was just a bit of a stretch I think. Maybe I’m just not seeing what everybody else is with him since I think he was taken early in both drafts. Joe Mixon in the 3rd round is also interesting because I really think he could have waited until the 4th to take him, but he probably didn’t want to risk it. Crabtree and Benjamin might have been a round early also, but I think Crabtree has another good year this year and Benjamin has to be better than he was last year. I have no idea what to make of Ameer Abdullah or Kareem Hunt in their situations, so it’s really hard to judge the running backs, but I wouldn’t classify them as “safe” in any way. If Mixon takes over the job quickly it will help a lot. Love the Cam Newton pick in the 8th round and I think Jack Doyle is in for a big year in Indy. Hard to argue with the value of Cobb and Thielen at 117 and 124. Overall, I think he overpaid a little bit for his starting wide receivers and that running back situation is certainly volatile at best.

Overall Grade: C+

Best pick – Jack Doyle at 100. Absolutely love his upside this year.

Worst pick – I’m going Kelvin Benjamin at 52 just because he disappeared so often last year it’s hard to justify him that early.

Record – 5-8-1


B League #4 - Bksballer

QB1 – Aaron Rodgers (3rd round, 28th overall)
QB2 – Andy Dalton (11th round, 124th overall)
RB1 – Mark Ingram (2nd round, 20th overall)
RB2 – Spencer Ware (4th round, 45th overall)
RB3 – Thomas Rawls (7th round, 76th overall)
RB4 – Theo Riddick (13th round, 148th overall)
WR1 – Antonio Brown (1st round, 4th overall)
WR2 – Julian Edelman (5th round, 52nd overall)
WR3 – Sterling Shepherd (8th round, 93rd overall)
WR4 – Tyrell Williams (9th round, 100th overall)
WR5 – Rishard Matthews (14th round, 165th overall)
TE1 – Greg Olsen (6th round, 69th overall)
K – Justin Tucker (12th round, 141st overall)
D/ST – Cardinals (10th round, 117th overall)

Bk also started out with Antonio Brown and then the big surprise was jumping all over Mark Ingram at pick #20. Apparently Adrian Peterson, Alvin Kamara, and the fact that he ends up in Sean Payton’s doghouse all the time were no deterrent whatsoever for BK. Love that he got Rodgers in the 3rd round, but I also think that Spencer Ware was early and so was Thomas Rawls at pick 76 with Eddie Lacy there. I’m not saying that Rawls won’t win the job, but both Ware and Rawls could have been had a few rounds later. I think the Edelman and Olsen picks were great value as was the Rishard Matthews pick at 165. Still trying to figure out how Justin Tucker was the 4th kicker taken, but well done there and I like the Cardinals defense because of the division they’re in. I think overall the depth at wide receiver is good, but the running back situation is dicey.

Overall Grade: C+

Best pick – Greg Olsen at 69. Great value no matter who you are. The guy has never missed a game and is the only tight end with 1000 yards in 3 straight seasons, he is the definition of a great suicide pick. (This analysis should come as no surprise to anybody)

Worst pick – Mark Ingram at 20 was just way too early.

Record – 6-8


A vs. B comparison

Here is another one that is really close to call. Same advantage that TKO had over EHB at quarterback and I honestly have no idea who wins this running back battle. Good luck figuring that shit out so we’ll call it a toss up. I think the wide receivers are also a push and BK has a slight advantage at tight end with Olsen and at kicker with Tucker. With that being said, since BK has the advantage at quarterback also I have to go with him to advance at 6-5.

 

[Bandit]

#5 Spot - Tlance vs. Milk​

A League #5 - Tlance

QB1 – Drew Brees (5th round, 53rd overall)
QB2 – Carson Wentz (14th round, 164th overall)
RB1 – Christian McCaffrey (3rd round, 29th overall)
RB2 – Bilal Powell (6th round, 68th overall)
RB3 – Samaje Perine (7th round, 77th overall)
RB4 – Kenneth Dixon (8th round, 92nd overall)
WR1 – Odell Beckham (1st round, 5th overall)
WR2 – Jordy Nelson (2nd round, 20th overall)
WR3 – Emmanuel Sanders (4th round, 44th overall)
WR4 – Devante Parker (10th round, 116th overall)
WR5 – Jordan Matthews (12th round, 140th overall)
TE1 – Kyle Rudolph (9th round, 101st overall)
K – Dan Bailey (13th round, 149th overall)
D/ST – Texans (11th round, 125th overall)


I always hate grading Tlance’s teams. I feel like Keanu Reaves giving Meryl Streep acting advice! With that being said, Tlance has a great set of wide receivers starting with Odell Beckham and Jordy Nelson, but every running back he drafted might not be considered the starter at the beginning of the season. Yes McCaffrey is going to get more touches than Stewart and they will use him in the passing game some too, but it’s always hard to know how quickly a rookie is going to pick up the offense and the blitz packages on defense and he almost certainly won’t get the goal line carries. My biggest problem with him is the offense he is in. Cam Newton is just not that accurate of a passer and he’s getting worse, especially on those intermediate routes that McCaffrey will need to be hit in stride on over the middle. Bilal Powell is certainly more talented than Forte, but all the talk is a pretty even split there, same with Perine although I defer to Tlance here since he is the Redskins fan and he drafted Perine when Robert Kelley was still on the board. Kenneth Dixon should win the job when he comes back from suspension but there is certainly no guarantee of that and Woodhead is going to steal touches from whoever else is running the ball in Baltimore. I’m sure because it’s Tlance that these running backs will all work out, but all I see is a giant question mark to start the season. I think Emmanuel Sanders was taken a bit early and I think he would have at least been there in the next round. Love Drew Brees every year and getting him at 53 is good value. Not a huge Kyle Rudolph fan, but he should get plenty of red zone targets in Minnesota if they ever get into the red zone. I think the Texans defense will finish the year as the #1 scoring defense this year and I like the wide receiver depth he added with Parker and Matthews, but so much is going to be riding on those running backs coming through. It seems like I’m writing that a lot. LOL

Overall Grade: B-

Best pick – Kenneth Dixon at 92. I know I just found reasons that he might not be great, but he is by far the most talented back on the team and with Woodhead’s injury history, he could be a three down back by week 5.

Worst pick – Emmanuel Sanders at 44 was just a little bit too early for my taste

Record – 7-7 (#3 seed in A league)


B League #5 - Milk

QB1 – Drew Brees (5th round, 53rd overall)
QB2 – Jameis Winston (9th round, 101st overall)
RB1 – Leonard Fournette (1st round, 5th overall)
RB2 – Joe Mixon (4th round, 44th overall)
RB3 – Kareem Hunt (8th round, 92nd overall)
RB4 – Marlon Mack (10th round, 116th overall)
WR1 – T.Y. Hilton (2nd round, 20th overall)
WR2 – Davante Adams (3rd round, 29th overall)
WR3 – Kelvin Benjamin (6th round, 68th overall)
WR4 – Golden Tate (7th round, 77th overall)
WR5 – Kevin White (14th round, 164th overall)
TE1 – David Njoku (13th round, 149th overall)
K – Dan Bailey (13th round, 149th overall)
D/ST – Texans (11th round, 125th overall)


Ah Milk the anti-Joe, the Rookie Whisperer. Milk started off with the first really big surprise of the draft with Leonard Fournette at the 5th pick. And while I do believe that was way too early, he probably wouldn’t have been there when it came back to him, so if he’s a believer he had to take him there. I like the TY Hilton and Devante Adams picks at 20 and 29 and Joe Mixon at pick 44 seems a little early, but once again he probably wouldn’t have been there when it got back to him. Brees in the 5th was just as smart as Tlance and I like Golden Tate in the 7th round as he will get a ton of targets. Both Kareem Hunt and Marlon Mack might not see the field right away, so he better hope that Fournette lives up to expectations and Mixon steals the job immediately from Hill and Bernard or he could be in trouble. He definitely wins the backup quarterback battle if for some reason Brees gets hurt, then Milk is going to win just with quarterback play having Winston. Frightening that the only tight end he took was David Njoku as rookie tight ends are usually terrible and he’s playing for a terrible team. I like the Kevin White pick in the 14th round as eventually the guy has to actually play right. Every running back is a rookie, plus Njoku at tight end for five total. I think with the depth he create d with the first four wide receivers he took, the extra roster spot would have been much better used on either another running back or another tight end.

Overall Grade: C+

Best pick – Golden Tate with the 77th pick and Winston with the 101st pick were both great value picks.

Worst pick – David Njoku as the only tight end. I don’t have a problem with drafting him, but not as the only tight end, I would have backed him up with somebody much safer in suicide. And I’m a Miami Hurricanes fan.

Record – 6-8


A vs B comparison

So Milk gets the advantage at backup quarterback, but is that really an advantage? Running backs are the battle of rookies, with 6 or the 8 on these two teams being rookies, yet none in common, so even though I give the slight advantage to Milk with Fournette as a starter, I like Tlance’s depth with Dixon and Powell. At wide receiver I give a slight advantage to Tlance just because he has Beckham. Even though I’m not a huge Kyle Rudolph fan, I like him more than Njoku, so advantage goes to Tlance there also. Bottom line is as long as Brees stays healthy for both teams I think Tlance wins this thing, but if Brees gets hurt and backup quarterbacks come into play Milk could pull it out. Tlance advances 6-5.

 

[Bandit]

#6 Spot - Fuzzy vs. Obxyankeefan​

A League #6 - Fuzzy

QB1 – Andrew Luck (5th round, 54th overall)
QB2 – Matthew Stafford (10th round, 115th overall)
RB1 – Lesean Mccoy (1st round, 6th overall)
RB2 – Todd Gurley (2nd round, 19th overall)
RB3 – C.J. Anderson (6th round, 67th overall)
RB4 – Marlon Mack (12th round, 139th overall)
WR1 – Brandin Cooks (3rd round, 30th overall)
WR2 – Sammy Watkins (4th round, 43rd overall)
WR3 – Willie Snead (8th round, 91st overall)
WR4 – Pierre Garcon (9th round, 102nd overall)
WR5 – Kenny Britt (14th round, 163rd overall)
TE1 – Tyler Eifert (7th round, 78th overall)
K – Mason Crosby (13th round, 150th overall)
D/ST – Seahawks (11th round, 126th overall)

I really like Fuzzy’s team, but he always drafts well. Started off with too solid running backs with Mccoy and Gurley and was still able to land two really good wide receivers in Cooks and Watkins at 30 and 43. I like the value for Andrew Luck at 54 and I also like that he backed him up earlier than some with Stafford given Luck’s shoulder concerns. Love the C.J. Anderson pick at 67 as that could turn into a steal and so could Tyler Eifert as the 7th tight end taken at #78. Like the Snead and Garcon picks as well. Just a good overall draft although I might have taken Jonathan Williams as my last running back to handcuff Shady instead of Marlon Mack who will only see the field if the all of the sudden indestructible Frank Gore gets hurt. There are some injury concerns with Sammy Watkins, Andrew Luck, and Tyler Eifert, but he has enough depth at wide receiver and quarterback to be fine as long as Eifert can stay healthy. Deciding what to do with that last pick was probably really tough as to whether go wide receiver or backup tight end and we’ll see if that comes back to bite him in the end.

Overall Grade: B+

Best pick – C.J. Anderson at #67. He is going to be the starting running back for a decent team and he’s a homer pick, which I always like.

Worst pick – Sammy Watkins at #43 but only because of this format. His upside is so much, but the guy just can’t stay on the field which is rough in suicide.

Record – 9-5 (#2 seed in A league)


B League # 6 - OBXyankeefan

QB1 – Tom Brady (3rd round, 30th overall)
QB2 – Dak Prescott (9th round, 102nd overall)
RB1 – Melvin Gordon (1st round, 6th overall)
RB2 – Latavius Murray (4th round, 43rd overall)
RB3 – Paul Perkins (5th round, 54th overall)
RB4 – Jonathan Stewart (6th round, 67th overall)
RB5 – Kenneth Dixon (7th round, 78th overall)
WR1 – Zay Jones (11th round, 126th overall)
WR2 – Josh Doctson (12th round, 139th overall)
WR3 – John Ross (13th round, 150th overall)
WR4 – Juju Smith-Schuster (14th round, 163rd overall)
TE1 – Rob Gronkowski (2nd round, 19th overall)
K – Stephen Gostkowski (10th round, 115th overall)
D/ST – Patriots (8th round, 91st overall)

So this one was by far the most interesting strategy I’ve ever seen in a draft. Not that he went into it thinking he wasn’t going to take his first wide receiver until round 11, but it ended up that way. It started off so harmless with Melvin Gordon in round 1, Gronk in round 2 and Brady in round 3, all solid picks, although Gronk is a tough sell for me as the only tight end in a suicide league with his injury history. Latavius Murray at pick 43 was way too early since he’s hurt and the job might not even be his for very long. Murray went in the 8th round of the A league draft which seems about right to me. Even if you don’t think Dalvin Cook will take over the job, at the very least he could have waited a few more rounds for Murray and possibly taken a wide receiver a little earlier. I like the Paul Perkins pick in the 5th round, but Jonathan Stewart at pick 67 is way too early for a guy that might only get 12 touches a game and he went in the 9th round of the A league draft. I’m thinking that OBX is not a big believer in rookies taking over people’s jobs. I like the Kenneth Dixon pick in round 7. Round 8 was way too early to take the Patriots defense who would have been there at least two rounds later and I’m sure once he got to round 10 with no receivers he was just like, “Well hell what does it matter now, I might as well take my kicker” even though round 10 is way too early to draft a kicker. That leads us to the four receivers taken from rounds 11-14 in Zay Jones, Josh Doctson, John Ross, and Juju Smith-Schuster. Even that late, there were better options available that those guys. I get that he was probably trying to go with guys with high upside since he was screwed anyway at that point, but at least throw a couple of safer plays in there. I mean John Brown, Eric Decker, Rishard Matthews were all available. Of those four receivers, it’s possible that none of them are going to be on the field for the majority of their team’s snaps. Crazy draft. I’ve never actually seen the 0 wide receiver strategy since TKO drafted like 9 running backs in the A league draft two years ago.

Overall Grade: D+

Best pick – Paul Perkins at 54 was really good value for a starting running back on a great offense. Maybe this will be the year they learn how to actually run the ball.

Worst pick – Latavius Murray at #43 was just way too early, but I have to give a shout out to taking a kicker in round 10 here also.

Record – 4-10


A vs. B comparison

On paper this should be an annihilation, which probably means that OBX will win the head-to-head. Obx does have the advantage at quarterback and tight end, but unless Brady throws 4 touchdowns every game to Gronk, I don’t think it will be enough to make up the difference in the running backs and wide receivers in this matchup. Fuzzy advances at 9-2 and will be the #1 overall seed in the A vs. B playoff.

 

[Bandit]

#7 Spot - Barilko vs. Ritzarmy​

A League #7 - Barilko

QB1 – Marcus Mariota (8th round, 90th overall)
QB2 – Phillip Rivers (9th round, 103rd overall)
RB1 – Leonard Fournette (2nd round, 18th overall)
RB2 – Paul Perkins (4th round, 42nd overall)
RB3 – Doug Martin (7th round, 79th overall)
RB4 – Jamaal Williams (12th round, 138th overall)
WR1 – Julio Jones (1st round, 7th overall)
WR2 – Deandre Hopkins (3rd round, 31st overall)
WR3 – Corey Davis (6th round, 66th overall)
WR4 – Corey Coleman (10th round, 114th overall)
TE1 – Jordan Reed (5th round, 55th overall)
TE2 – Evan Engram (14th round, 162nd overall)
K – Will Lutz (13th round, 151st overall)
D/ST – Chiefs (11th round, 127th overall)

Barilko started off the draft with Julio Jones at 7 and Leonard Fournette at 18 and although I’m not a fan of Fournette, obviously that is where his value lies, but I would much rather have seen Barilko go with say Melvin Gordan, Jordan Howard, Devante Freeman, or Jay Ajayi in the first round and then come back with say Jordy Nelson in the 2nd round, but he could end up proving me wrong, most people do. I like Hopkins to bounce back this year and Perkins in the 4th seems early to me, but he went in the 5th of the B league, so that’s pretty close, I just don’t see the Giants ever fully committing to the run. Jordan Reed with the 55th pick is great value, especially since he backed him up with another tight end later and with his injury history that was a great idea. Corey Davis at pick 66 was also a little early for me with a rookie wide receiver in a run first offense. Love the Doug Martin pick at 79 as they are giving every indication that he will be the man once he’s back from suspension, let’s just hope that Perkins does something for those first couple of weeks. I like the pairing of Marcus Mariota and Philip Rivers at quarterback and even though the value for Corey Coleman is there, I just don’t see the value in Cleveland wide receivers. Love the Chiefs defense this year and Jamaal Williams could end up being the starter in Green Bay so it was worth a late round pick. By drafting Jordan Reed, he really painted himself into a corner because he really had to draft a backup tight end which leaves him with only 4 running backs and 4 wide receivers. Overall , if Fournette can be a 20 touch guy from the start and Jacksonville can actually block this year this could be a really good team.

Overall Grade: B

Best pick – Even with the injury history I think Jordan Reed at pick 55 is great value and Doug Martin at pick 79 could prove to be a steal.

Worst pick – Julio Jones at 7. I know it’s Julio Jones, but in suicide he does bring some risk with the injury history last year and the schizophrenic games (40 points, then 2 points) he puts up. He will probably prove me wrong this year, but he drove me freaking crazy owning him last year.

Record – 7-7


B League #7 - Ritzarmy

QB1 – Ben Roethlisberger (5th round, 55th overall)
QB2 – Carson Palmer (14th round, 162nd overall)
RB1 – Lesean Mccoy (1st round, 7th overall)
RB2 – Eddie Lacy (4th round, 42nd overall)
RB3 – Darren Sproles (8th round, 90th overall)
RB4 – James Connor (13th round, 151st overall)
WR1 – Jordy Nelson (2nd round, 18th overall)
WR2 – Alshon Jeffery (3rd round, 31st overall)
WR3 – Desean Jackson (6th round, 66th overall)
WR4 – Pierre Garcon (9th round, 103rd overall)
TE1 – Delanie Walker (10th round, 114th overall)
K – Matt Bryant (12th round, 138th overall)
D/ST1 – Broncos (7th round, 79th overall)
D/ST2- Chiefs (11th round, 127th overall)


Ritz started with Lesean Mccoy, Jordy Nelson, and Alshon Jeffery which is a solid start even though I think that’s a little bit early for Alshon, he probably wouldn’t have been there when it came back in the 4th round. I think Eddie Lacy with the 42nd pick was too early for a guy that has shown absolutely nothing the last two years and it’s not like Seattle’s offensive line was something to write home about. I just don’t think he has the first steps to get to the hole any more. Ben Roethlisberger in the 5th round as the 5th quarterback taken was also too early as I’m pretty sure he would have been there a few rounds later and I really don’t like him much this year as his away from home stats are just freaking terrible. I like Desean Jackson this year as well, but 66 seems a little early for him as well. The Broncos defense at pick 79 was way too early as I just don’t see them being that much better than any of the top 5 defenses, so waiting a few rounds, even if you don’t get them you can snag a defense that is going to be within a few points of them and draft some more depth. Speaking of which, you snagged another one of those defenses in round 11 by getting the Chiefs. I understand getting two defenses in this league if you have to take one of the last ones on the board, but that 11th round pick could have given you some extra depth at running back or wide receiver or even tight end since Walker is like 50 years old. Darren Sproles at pick 90 I just don’t get. Yes he’s going to get touches in the passing game, but even before Legarrette Blount signed there it was going to be a crowded backfield and as a pass catching back Danny Woodhead would have been a much better option. I love the Delanie Walker pick in the 10th round at pick 114. Pick 114 are you freaking kidding me, the guy just never gets the kind of respect he should. Overall Eddie Lacy better stay the lead back in Seattle because Sproles and Connor just aren’t going to get enough touches to make a difference consistenly.

Overall Grade: C

Best pick – Delanie Walker at pick 114. Still can’t believe he was there.

Worst pick – Chiefs defense, not because I don’t love them this year, but just because you could have used more running back depth instead of another defense.

Record – 5-9


A vs B comparison

I think Barilko wins this one, but it ends up pretty close. I think the quarterbacks are actually close to a push and the running backs I give a slight edge to Barilko just because I like his depth more. At wide receiver I actually think that is a push because I like Ritz’s #3 and #4 receivers a lot more than Barilko’s. Tight end the edge goes to Barilko and I think those advantages will be enough to overcome the advantage at kicker and defense that Ritz has although I think those two positions actually make this pretty close. Barilko advances 6-5.