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yahoo is famous for using terrible defaults... not just stats, but in position eligibility...

with that said, i like that they use OUTS and not INNINGS.... i may take that...

For comparison...
My home league is a 15 team points league. 300+ is a great week. Low 200's or less is a bad week. We start 13 hitters, 5 starters, 2 relievers (but we do team bullpen rights during the draft).

Hitters
Strike out: -0.5
Walk/HBP: 0.5
Single: 1
Double: 2
Triple: 3
HR: 4
RBI: 1
Run Scored: 1 (solo HR+RBI+R=6 points)
SB: 1.5
CS: -0.5
GDP: -1.5

Pitchers
IP: 0.5 (1st out .17 -->2nd out .33 -->3rd out 0.5)
W: 9
L: -3
QS: 4
Strikeout: 1
ER: -1
CG: 2
SO: 2
S: 6
H: 3
BS: -4
BS/BSW: you don't get the points for the Bull Shit Win, but your blown save is erased

2024 results, top 3
Ohtani: 713.5
Judge: 625
Witt: 622

Skubal: 511
Wheeler: 494
Sale: 492

2023
Acuna 720.5
Freeman 590.5
Olson: 585.5

Strider: 531
Cole: 504.5
Gallen: 460


It might look skewed to bats (let's not forget the ridiculousness of Ohtani, Judges, and Acuna seasons...Freeman to Strider isn't as gaping), but in a weekly game a pitcher can have two starts. A good start with a win is mid-to-high 20's (pending the K's)... which is also a good week for hitters. Great weeks by hitters (30+) are more than great weeks by pitchers, but 2-starters that pay off are usually 40+... so it balances on a weekly basis
 

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The W vs QS debate is tough for me.

6 innings, 8 hits, 3 er, 8 walks, 0 k = QS

5 innings, 10 hits, 10 er, 10 walks, 0 k = W if your team scored 11 before the 6th and stayed ahead

I just find it important to not punish pitchers too often for too little.
 

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The W vs QS debate is tough for me.

6 innings, 8 hits, 3 er, 8 walks, 0 k = QS

5 innings, 10 hits, 10 er, 10 walks, 0 k = W if your team scored 11 before the 6th and stayed ahead

I just find it important to not punish pitchers too often for too little.

I may be leaning towards the win especially after increasing points on either outs or innings.
 

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Really need something out of my relievers this afternoon.

League Average can’t go beating me twice this week.
 

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I may be leaning towards the win especially after increasing points on either outs or innings.

I think we should keep both wins and quality starts, but it sounds like extra points for outs or innings will make up for it if we remove QS. I also think that we should keep the +2 for homeruns. Homeruns are special. Too bad my team can barely hit any. LOL.

And I think holds should be 5 points and saves should be 6 points. I don't think we need to lower hold and save points by 2. Lowering it by 1 point should be enough. If we add more points for outs/innings, we'd already be making an adjustment to increase SP points.
 
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I think we should keep both wins and quality starts, but it sounds like extra points for outs or innings will make up for it if we remove QS. I also think that we should keep the +2 for homeruns. Homeruns are special. Too bad my team can barely hit any. LOL.

And I think holds should be 5 points and saves should be 6 points. I don't think we need to lower hold and save points by 2. Lowering it by 1 point should be enough. If we add more points for outs/innings, we'd already be making an adjustment to increase SP points.
My vote-4 pts for holds, 6 pts for saves.
 

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Apparently the key to being successful is to only draft relievers that pick up holds and power hitters who strike out 10 times a week. Chandler Simpson hits .455 for the week and only puts up 15.75 points, how does that even make sense?
 

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Apparently the key to being successful is to only draft relievers that pick up holds and power hitters who strike out 10 times a week. Chandler Simpson hits .455 for the week and only puts up 15.75 points, how does that even make sense?

all singles and not enough runs/rbis... but i have noticed that the speedster does not get enough love in this league... its one thing i have changed in the NEW RULES league... i think i already increased the points for SB, and decreased the points for CS... if i didnt, then that is a clear change i am planning on doing...
 

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Apparently the key to being successful is to only draft relievers that pick up holds and power hitters who strike out 10 times a week. Chandler Simpson hits .455 for the week and only puts up 15.75 points, how does that even make sense?

I looked at his stats for the week. I guess it's because he had no extra base hits. Extra base hits also tend to drive in more runs and put your hitter in better position to score runs. Heck, maybe categories is the way to go and that way, we don't need to argue about how many points something should be worth. Have 6 hitter categories (OBP, BA, R, HR, RBI, SB) and 6 pitcher categories (W's, QS's, ERA, WHIP, K's, Saves). Holds seem to be really unpopular, so we can just get rid of it, but those high quality non-closer relievers would still help with WHIP and an supplement K's.
 

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I do wish that fantasy baseball stats translated into points as easily as fantasy football. LOL. Fantasy football stats make so much sense. You get a point for every 10 yards and you get 6 points for a TD.
 

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I looked at his stats for the week. I guess it's because he had no extra base hits. Extra base hits also tend to drive in more runs and put your hitter in better position to score runs. Heck, maybe categories is the way to go and that way, we don't need to argue about how many points something should be worth. Have 6 hitter categories (OBP, BA, R, HR, RBI, SB) and 6 pitcher categories (W's, QS's, ERA, WHIP, K's, Saves). Holds seem to be really unpopular, so we can just get rid of it, but those high quality non-closer relievers would still help with WHIP and an supplement K's.

nah, not getting rid of holds... i really think it is important... but by correcting all the points for W,QS, H, S there wont be a crazy differential or advantage that shouldnt be...
 

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I do wish that fantasy baseball stats translated into points as easily as fantasy football. LOL. Fantasy football stats make so much sense. You get a point for every 10 yards and you get 6 points for a TD.


H2H points is the most difficult league to set up... even when all decided, things will be wrong...

what is nice about H2H points is that you can include everything that you want to... problem is finding a balance is almost impossible... you basically have to just get to the point where things LOOK good... or just keep it so simple that you ignore some stats...
 

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H2H points is the most difficult league to set up... even when all decided, things will be wrong...

what is nice about H2H points is that you can include everything that you want to... problem is finding a balance is almost impossible... you basically have to just get to the point where things LOOK good... or just keep it so simple that you ignore some stats...

Yeah, it seems like baseball is really tough to translate into points compared to other sports.
 

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nah, not getting rid of holds... i really think it is important... but by correcting all the points for W,QS, H, S there wont be a crazy differential or advantage that shouldnt be...

Yeah, we should definitely keep holds in a points league. I was only recommending dropping holds if we went with categories, but I'm sure everyone wants to stay with points.
 

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Yeah, we should definitely keep holds in a points league. I was only recommending dropping holds if we went with categories, but I'm sure everyone wants to stay with points.

i hate H2H categories... i like the setup becuase it is easy... but hate it for dynasty leagues... it promotes punting categories...
 

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all singles and not enough runs/rbis... but i have noticed that the speedster does not get enough love in this league... its one thing i have changed in the NEW RULES league... i think i already increased the points for SB, and decreased the points for CS... if i didnt, then that is a clear change i am planning on doing...

2 points for a steal and only 0.5 penalty for CS seems a little too much. How about 1.75 for SB and -0.75 for CS?
 

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2 points for a steal and only 0.5 penalty for CS seems a little too much. How about 1.75 for SB and -0.75 for CS?

currently is it 1.5 for SB and 1 for CS... that is way too much

2 and .5 makes a lot more sense... and is what i think i already changed it to in the NEW RULES LEAGUE....

but i may increase SB from 2 to 2.5...
 

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currently is it 1.5 for SB and 1 for CS... that is way too much

2 and .5 makes a lot more sense... and is what i think i already changed it to in the NEW RULES LEAGUE....

but i may increase SB from 2 to 2.5...

I don't think you should go above 2. That seems like too much credit for a stolen base. Maybe the CS penalty doesn't matter much. The best base stealers hardly get caught anyway.

Also, should we give an extra point for a triple? Currently, I think a triple is the same number of points as a double.
 
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