Mariners Offseason 2024-25

[NWinAZ]

Damn we are building a winner!

 

[NWinAZ]

The guy I feel kinda bad for is Cal. They are abusing him. He was in 153 games last year. On the open market he would be worth $20 million a year easily. By the time he is free agent eligible, he will be all used up.

Along with everything else they should have done this off season, they should have signed a part time catcher who hits left-handed pitchers well. If they want to get maximum, longterm value out of Cal, they should be catching him about 110 games, DHing about 30 games, and resting about 25 games. But, clearly they don't. They are going to use him up and then let him walk.

Thought the exact same thing. For catchers, you have a short shelf life and they are using the heck out of him. Should he act like an NBA player and ask for several days off for "load management". I wouldn't hold it against him.

 

[ulmax]

The guy I feel kinda bad for is Cal. They are abusing him. He was in 153 games last year. On the open market he would be worth $20 million a year easily. By the time he is free agent eligible, he will be all used up.

Along with everything else they should have done this off season, they should have signed a part time catcher who hits left-handed pitchers well. If they want to get maximum, longterm value out of Cal, they should be catching him about 110 games, DHing about 30 games, and resting about 25 games. But, clearly they don't. They are going to use him up and then let him walk.

It makes ya..puck .....just .
But yeah probably..

 

[PolarVortex]

Thought the exact same thing. For catchers, you have a short shelf life and they are using the heck out of him. Should he act like an NBA player and ask for several days off for "load management". I wouldn't hold it against him.

He absolutely should. And, none of us know Cal, but from what I have seen and can assume, he would never do that. Too bad. He'sprobably screwing himself out of $60-70 million dollars in future earnings by being a team player. Imagine that, penalizing yourself in order to support your team.

 

[ulmax]

1: Robles.
2.crawford..
3.julio..

4..can't afford..
5.cant.trade..for .

6.haniger..
7.raliegh....
8.arosarens.

9.wont..happen..they.calling.....wong.
Hawaii time

 

[NWinAZ]

Imagine that, penalizing yourself in order to support your team.

A lost breed. I have the upmost admiration for Cal. I really wish they would trade him to a winner. He deserves parole.

 

[NWinAZ]

I am waiting on the announcement of a desperate trade by M's. My guess.

Gilbert
Haniger
Locklear

For

Arenado (on the downside of career the way Dipoto likes them)
Gorman
Walker
Quinn Mathews

 

[cezero]

Thought the exact same thing. For catchers, you have a short shelf life and they are using the heck out of him. Should he act like an NBA player and ask for several days off for "load management". I wouldn't hold it against him.

Love Cal and want him here forever, but he's arb1 and not even close to being on the free agent market so that's moot. He's only played 2 complete seasons in the bigs and "only" getting 9 games off in a season isn't that crazy, especially since 6-7 other games were only for an inning or 2. If his shelf life is hurt by anything he's done in Seattle so far then he's made of sugar glass.

I'm betting they offered him something long-term since he canned Boras at the end of Nov. If he didn't accept then that's 100% his choice, and he has several more years of arb to prove that he's worth more. I doubt he'll try to malinger as you suggest lol. That would be pure self-sabotage for a player who's arb1.

Even if they never make him a long-term offer, doing time before FA is part of the game. The arb process is the same for everybody. Any conversation begins and ends there. He'd be the first person to agree based on the way he comports himself, imo.

 

[AceKeptic]

Damn we are building a winner!

That's all good and fine, but need we remind them?

 

[NWinAZ]

Love Cal and want him here forever, but he's arb1 and not even close to being on the free agent market so that's moot. He's only played 2 complete seasons in the bigs and "only" getting 9 games off in a season isn't that crazy, especially since 6-7 other games were only for an inning or 2. If his shelf life is hurt by anything he's done in Seattle so far then he's made of sugar glass.

I'm betting they offered him something long-term since he canned Boras at the end of Nov. If he didn't accept then that's 100% his choice, and he has several more years of arb to prove that he's worth more. I doubt he'll try to malinger as you suggest lol. That would be pure self-sabotage for a player who's arb1.

Even if they never make him a long-term offer, doing time before FA is part of the game. The arb process is the same for everybody. Any conversation begins and ends there. He'd be the first person to agree based on the way he comports himself, imo.

Well somebody got up on the wrong side of the keyboard.

 

[Anointed One]

So from rumors out there the $15M budget isn't a budget but required spending from MLB. The money reportedly isn't even the M's. It is MLB money and they are required to spend it on players. Sheesh.

Thank God, somebody’s forcing them to spend some money

 

[wazzu31]

I said a few years back that players get down when their team doesn't make moves at the deadline that they feel are needed and I assume the same thing goes in the winter. Souza makes a good point about that as well as why did they say out loud what their budget is. In years past when they would actually spend, they would not say their ceiling because they didn't want agents to push for more if they knew they could/would spend more so why do the opposite?

I listened to that podcast. That sure as a crap isn’t going to make him popular with the salary cap talk.

 

[NWinAZ]

 

[NWinAZ]

I listened to that podcast. That sure as a crap isn’t going to make him popular with the salary cap talk.

Good point. Players hate that talk from ex-players I would guess.

 

[wazzu31]

Good point. Players hate that talk from ex-players I would guess.

Just kind of ironic IMO that for all these years fans and players were against a cap, but now owners will be against it. Can’t see the big payroll owners saying nah, we will cap our payrolls nor can I see the Rays being forced to spend $180-200 million on payroll

 

[ulmax]

Just watched .
Brock.and salk with passan..

And agree with.passan..yeah.i.see.
It..
And salk..is the way..ya feel.about it .

Good job.to.both guys.

On concern .on.the.mariners.

 

[ulmax]

And what.pasaan..said.
Is
Maybe in the end..
Mariners get lucky..and are one and.
Done.

Cuz they.cant make.ends.meet..
In this go around .

But they.still.trying.to beat..the buzzer...

So they.not going to.trade..pitching.
Till..the buzzer..

But checking the market.on.castillo.
Was still.good..
We learned a lot right there.

 

[ulmax]

And what.pasaan..said.
Is
Maybe in the end..
Mariners get lucky..and are one and.
Done.

Cuz they.cant make.ends.meet..
In this go around .

But they.still.trying.to beat..the buzzer...

So they.not going to.trade..pitching.
Till..the buzzer..

But checking the market.on.castillo.
Was still.good..
We learned a lot right there.

In this as well..
Is..Cole young....2b/ss
And williamson.3b.
Williamson.make.the buzzer...

Williamson .and young .will.
Make the buzzer...
But will..
They ever .have #4.and#5.hitters.
Cuz
Williamson and young.are not.that..

And you could fudge.#5.with.raliegh.
But .
#4..not really.

 

[ulmax]

Yeah..Locklear or shenton.
Could..#5.
But you would still need.#4..
Or Justin..turner..
Or a dh.

That's if.one of those 2 can fill.1b.

 

[ulmax]

So it may be..
One and done...
And they either. trade..gilbert.and.
Kerby..(not at the same time).
Or they let them..

Free agent..is prob what happens
Getting the comp.picks.
In draft.
And they will .have quall.offers on them.
Both
But there market will be 30 mil.
And they will go where they want.