Mariners Minors

[wazzu31]

Ya, I am with you on that. It is just the natural progression after this offseason he is having. Don't be afraid to challenge these guys.

Definitely not saying rush him to the big leagues but starting off in Everett doesn’t seem like it does him any good. It always just made sense, if a guy is dominant then move him up. But that dudes perspective on not putting pressure on him seems really weird, not sure if that in an industry thing or just him.

 

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[wazzu31]

I really wonder what this guys future is. Listening to “insiders” Rodden and Williamson are two guys who either are really liked or not liked at all. With how the farm system is set up I hope some other team falls in love with for trade value.

 

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[ulmax]

Projecting tacoma.fir 2025..

1locklear..auetin.shenton..
2b.bliss..leo.rivas.
Ss cole.young..leo Rivas.
3b .Leo Rivas..Williamson shenton

LF spenc Packard.
Cf..Marlowe..
Rf.rylan Thomas .
Rf canzone..

 

[ulmax]

We don't know pitchers yet.
So Arkansas..

Cat Aiden miller Harry Ford.
1b.hogan.windash .Ramirez.
2b rodden..blake rambush..
Ss arroyo..
3b.williamson.ramirez..

I don't know if kaden polkavitch is still there or not .2b

Lf..Victor labrada .
Cf.
Rf sundstrom.or montes.

There are a few holes at.arkansas..
In outfield..

 

[ulmax]

Add Kobe kato.to Tacoma 2b

 

[ulmax]

Everett ..
Cat.conner charping.
1b.caleb cali..Hunter fitz Gerald
2b.josh hood.
Ss.colt emmerson.sanchez.
3b..mikar Perez..

LF.carlos Jimenez..
Cf.bill knight..
Rf.montes.sundstom.

 

[ulmax]

Modesto.
Catjosh caron..jose caguana.juniorgonzales
1b.pagliarini..jarrod belbin
2b ty peete..Roberto cova
Ss.celesten..endy.rodrigez..carter doghri
3b.brandon.eike..louis.suesbel.
Austin st Laurent.utility.

LF.carson jones.
Cf.johnny farmelo.
Rf anthony donofrio.
Of.curtis Washington.

 

[wazzu31]

Really shocked with Joyce. People kept bringing him up as a possible call up for relief help much like Taylor

 

[NWinAZ]

Really shocked with Joyce. People kept bringing him up as a possible call up for relief help much like Taylor

Not familiar with him. Hopefully we don't lose him or maybe we can trade him before the draft this coming week.

 

[wazzu31]

Not familiar with him. Hopefully we don't lose him or maybe we can trade him before the draft this coming week.

I’m not familiar at either. I just remember a lot people talking about calling him up at the same time as Taylor then again after Garcia got hurt. No upset with it or anything, just surprised that team that needs bullpen help would leave a cheap one exposed but obviously they know more than I do.

 

[NWinAZ]

but obviously they know more than I do

Don't fool yourself.

 

[NWinAZ]

From BA

Montes’ calling card is his power, and he knows it. He swings hard every time, with a back shoulder tilt and uphill plane that indicates his intent to hit balls to the moon. As a teenager, he already posts exit velocities that dwarf many big leaguers. Montes has trouble at times making contact, and his strikeout rate ballooned after his midseason promotion to High-A Everett in 2024. He is willing to take a walk, and pitchers tend to pitch around him, leaving optimism that he will continue to sport a double-digit walk rate as he climbs levels. Montes is a virtual non-factor on the bases, largely due to his incredibly poor acceleration, though his top end speed on a straight line isn’t terrible. He did make some strides in the outfield in 2024, though his most likely outcome is still as a DH, with some right field and first base outcomes as possibilities. Montes does not track balls well, nor take good routes, and he will always be a clunky play finisher. He charges ground balls extremely well, allowing his average arm to play up when he’s coming in on hits to the outfield.

 

[NWinAZ]

Baseball America had the following scouting report on Arroyo in their list:

Arroyo stands right on top of the plate, combining quick hands and an on-balance stride to create outstanding plate coverage. He’s both smart and disciplined, with an excellent idea of what the pitcher is trying to do in any given count. Though he likes to turn on inside pitches, Arroyo is willing to use the whole field—and does so with many balls hit at optimal launch angles. He showed a major uptick in power in 2024, even displaying opposite-field home run power. There are few questions with Arroyo’s bat, which combines hit, zone control and power. The rest of his profile is more ordinary. On the bases, Arroyo is a good accelerator, but his short strides and lack of top-end speed limit him to an average overall run tool. He has shown aggression stealing bases in the low minors but may not have the speed to maintain that at higher levels. He’s already moved from shortstop to second base, and though he should stay at the keystone, he projects as fringy at best. His range is fairly limited, and his subpar arm and lack of athleticism prevent him from making plays on the run.

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[wazzu31]

From BA

Montes’ calling card is his power, and he knows it. He swings hard every time, with a back shoulder tilt and uphill plane that indicates his intent to hit balls to the moon. As a teenager, he already posts exit velocities that dwarf many big leaguers. Montes has trouble at times making contact, and his strikeout rate ballooned after his midseason promotion to High-A Everett in 2024. He is willing to take a walk, and pitchers tend to pitch around him, leaving optimism that he will continue to sport a double-digit walk rate as he climbs levels. Montes is a virtual non-factor on the bases, largely due to his incredibly poor acceleration, though his top end speed on a straight line isn’t terrible. He did make some strides in the outfield in 2024, though his most likely outcome is still as a DH, with some right field and first base outcomes as possibilities. Montes does not track balls well, nor take good routes, and he will always be a clunky play finisher. He charges ground balls extremely well, allowing his average arm to play up when he’s coming in on hits to the outfield.

What is good with Montes is he struggled really bad when he got promoted but he turned it around big time at the end of the season. I still don’t get the DH thing. If he doesn’t progress then move him to 1B. Making him a DH IMO will hurt him because there is only one path then to the big leagues and IMO it’s bad mentally for a kid if he is struggling at the plate. At least with Julio when he is struggling he can still contribute to the team.

It’s just so weird with him where everyone seems to be projecting that he is going to add like 50 lbs of just fat like a professional team doesn’t have access to world class nutrition and diet experts.

 

[wazzu31]

Baseball America had the following scouting report on Arroyo in their list:

Arroyo stands right on top of the plate, combining quick hands and an on-balance stride to create outstanding plate coverage. He’s both smart and disciplined, with an excellent idea of what the pitcher is trying to do in any given count. Though he likes to turn on inside pitches, Arroyo is willing to use the whole field—and does so with many balls hit at optimal launch angles. He showed a major uptick in power in 2024, even displaying opposite-field home run power. There are few questions with Arroyo’s bat, which combines hit, zone control and power. The rest of his profile is more ordinary. On the bases, Arroyo is a good accelerator, but his short strides and lack of top-end speed limit him to an average overall run tool. He has shown aggression stealing bases in the low minors but may not have the speed to maintain that at higher levels. He’s already moved from shortstop to second base, and though he should stay at the keystone, he projects as fringy at best. His range is fairly limited, and his subpar arm and lack of athleticism prevent him from making plays on the run.

@wazzu31

Two things.

A. I think they are describing Altuve which is who I comp him to. The knock on him being fringy may end up being correct but his production was better than any other prospect and his improvement from 23 to 24 seems like there isn’t really a glass ceiling on him unless he falls off the cliff next year in AA and most likely AAA

B. It isn’t exactly fair using him moving off of SS as a knock on him. No idea if he can play quality SS but when 3 of the top 6 prospects in the system are SS and he played with the number 1 prospect basically the entire year I think that knock isn’t fair.

 

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Baseball America Gives Huge Praise to Seattle Mariners Top Prospect Felnin Celesten

At the major league-level, the Seattle Mariners are built on pitching. The M's were diligent and intentional about their desires to build a pitching powerhouse when they started rebuilding their minor league system several years ago.

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