LOL @ Minnesota Here

[Wamu]

You really are a simple minded meathead, aren't you? lol

Didn't the University of Minnesota create the forward pass?

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Didn't the University of Minnesota create the forward pass?

I may have read somewhere that Dr. Henry Williams, UMn's first full time paid coach, was the first to propose the forward pass in some sort of rules committee meeting or something? I can look it up.

But for now I'd say no, UMn did not "create" the forward pass.

 

[sonnyblack65]

@ChiefsLakers67 @sonnyblack65

Pretty sure both of you have been on this site longer than me. A question. Have either of you ever seen someone respond to their own comment?

I have a handful of times, usual whackadoos

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Well, this is a football forum, guess I shouldn't be so surprised that there are so many simple minded neanderthals in here

 

[Irish7478]

Well, this is a football forum, guess I shouldn't be so surprised that there are so many simple minded neanderthals in here

Hell, one of them went to six colleges. Nothing says stupider more than that.

 

[Wamu]

Hell, one of them went to six colleges. Nothing says stupider more than that.

Minnesota has a richer CFB tradition than Notre Dame. Don't ask my how or why, only fred has the answer.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Hell, one of them went to six colleges. Nothing says stupider more than that.

Still not understanding your reasoning for thinking going to 6 colleges is a sign of stupidity? Seriously. Explain yourself, if you are even capable of doing such?

 

[Irish7478]

Still not understanding your reasoning for thinking going to 6 colleges is a sign of stupidity? Seriously. Explain yourself, if you are even capable of doing such?

The simple fact that you don’t understand it, is probably the best evidence as to why you needed to attend six colleges. You probably won’t understand that either. But most of the posters here will.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Didn't the University of Minnesota create the forward pass?

I found the book where I had read about that. Quoting directly from the book,

"As a member of the NCAA Rules Committee he was the first to propose legalization of the forward pass." Gopher Sketchbook by Al Papas Jr., Pg 8.

Also mentioned on that same page was how Williams created what came to be known as The Minnesota Shift.


So not only did the Coach of the University of Minnesota Golden Gophers create the 4 man backfield, he was the first to bring the offensive shift just before the snap to throw off the defense into the game as well, and was the first to propose the forward pass.

Other Gopher coaches and former players also went on to drastically transform the game. Fritz Crisler came up with two-platoon football and as a member of the NCAA Rules Committee helped bring about the 2 point conversion. Minnesota was Crisler's first head coaching position and he went on to make it into the cfb Hall of Fame as a coach, as did the aforementioned Henry Williams.

Former Gopher Clark Shaughnessy is the one who recruited Bernie Bierman into cfb coaching, bringing him in as his assistant at Tulane, where Bierman took over and won 2 Natl Titles, or so some declare, before heading home to coach the Gophers. The year Bierman was winning his 4th Natl Title in 7 years, 1940, Shaughnessy did "invent the Man in Motion for the T-Formation. He perfected the use of brush blocks to enhance his invention's speed and deception. A 1700 word vocabulary was devised that only his players could understand for past play calling. The first year he unleashed his man-in-motion, 1940, he won the Natl Title, or more accurately shared it with his former teammate and asst coach Bierman. Between the final season game and victory in the Rose Bowl, Shaughnessy taught his invention to the Chicago Bears who used it to mop up the Washington Redskins in the NFL Title game.

Clark Shaughnessy revolutionized football with his man-in-motion to make it the explosive and exciting game it is today." and for this he was nominated 3 times for the NFL Pro Hall of Fame as a coach/innovator.

He also coached the first winner of the Heisman Award as well.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

The simple fact that you don’t understand it, is probably the best evidence as to why you needed to attend six colleges. You probably won’t understand that either. But most of the posters here will.

Lots of people, very smart people, attend several colleges.

They change majors, maybe, or move, or military service comes into play, etc.?

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Hell, one of them went to six colleges. Nothing says stupider more than that.

Pretty simple, really. 1st college = went to while still in High School. Not sure how that indicates that I'm stupid?

2nd college was a community college. Smart people know it doesn't matter where you take your 1st and 2nd year courses, it matters where you get the degree from, so going to community college first meant I was getting more from the GI Bill than my school cost me. And it was one community college for the fall and another for the spring because I moved. Hardly indicative of being stupid, in fact so far this all tends to point to my being above average in intelligence, and paying for my own college not living off of mommy and daddy like some of you probably did. I finished college owing ZERO in college debt. And got nothing in grants or loans or scholarships or from my parents.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Pretty simple, really. 1st college = went to while still in High School. Not sure how that indicates that I'm stupid?

2nd college was a community college. Smart people know it doesn't matter where you take your 1st and 2nd year courses, it matters where you get the degree from, so going to community college first meant I was getting more from the GI Bill than my school cost me. And it was one community college for the fall and another for the spring because I moved. Hardly indicative of being stupid, in fact so far this all tends to point to my being above average in intelligence, and paying for my own college not living off of mommy and daddy like some of you probably did. I finished college owing ZERO in college debt. And got nothing in grants or loans or scholarships or from my parents.

Yes, all the smart people went to Community College.

 

[Irish7478]

Lots of people, very smart people, attend several colleges.

They change majors, maybe, or move, or military service comes into play, etc.?

name one.

 

[Irish7478]

Pretty simple, really. 1st college = went to while still in High School. Not sure how that indicates that I'm stupid?

2nd college was a community college. Smart people know it doesn't matter where you take your 1st and 2nd year courses, it matters where you get the degree from, so going to community college first meant I was getting more from the GI Bill than my school cost me. And it was one community college for the fall and another for the spring because I moved. Hardly indicative of being stupid, in fact so far this all tends to point to my being above average in intelligence, and paying for my own college not living off of mommy and daddy like some of you probably did. I finished college owing ZERO in college debt. And got nothing in grants or loans or scholarships or from my parents.

It doesn’t indicate that you are smart either. Community college speaks for itself. Second community college doubles the first community college. If you see all this as pointing to the fact that you are smart, we have little else to discuss. I see this as pointing to the fact that you are several things, but smart isn’t one of them.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Yes, all the smart people went to Community College.

Oregon isn't much more than a community college pretending to be a real college, lol.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

name one.

Me.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Oregon isn't much more than a community college pretending to be a real college, lol.

This thread is about Minnesota. Why are you obsessed with Oregon?

 

[Irish7478]

Oregon isn't much more than a community college pretending to be a real college, lol.

at least you seem to acknowledge the worthlessness of a Community College. Probably a good first step.

 

[Irish7478]

Me.

sadly, you might actually be the smartest person to come out of a community college. Which says nothing about you, but much about the value of a Community College.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

at least you seem to acknowledge the worthlessness of a Community College. Probably a good first step.

Oh yeah, wholeheartedly. Community college classes are for the most part just like a step up from the tougher high school classes, and mostly meant to allow people to get all their general classes out of the way, you know, the classes that most will never need going forward in their careers, before moving on to a more legit/recognized school. I went the community college route because I was paying for my own education 100% out of my own pocket basically, as I consider what the GI Bill paid as nothing more than money I earned in my years of service in the Military. I'm NOT trying to brag about the high quality of my education, not while at Community college, or even at the private colleges I went to afterwards. They were a step up from the community colleges, but were no where near the likes of the top private schools in America or even the top public schools. Most of what I learned I learned on my own time. I mean, I learned stuff, but most of the really important stuff I learned on my own time, with the exception of 3-5 classes, half of which were at the unaccredited college I went to.

The most important thing I took away from college was that it did help me to become a critical thinker.