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If any of you are truly expecting a penalty or fine out of either player... No wonder this league is going to shit. This is hockey, we talk shit on the ice. Intensity makes you say shit. You really think Avery is going to kill Giroux? I think we all know what he means. Use your fucking heads. And as far as racial slurs and the use of the word faggot, grow a pair of fucking balls. I am the least bit offended when a black person calls me a cracker. I expect them to feel the same way when the tables are turned.

The banana incident, that should not be excused because that is not a part of professional sports. Talking shit is.

I think of the banana incident because it wasn't something said that could be taken care of on the ice. If another player said something like that to Simmons, Kane, Byfuglien, whoever, there would be consequences.

As Jeff mentioned, this is hockey, not European football (soccer). These types of things are meant to be settled by the players.

Also, let's not act as if this is the first and only time something like this has been said. It's not right, but it's not a headsmash into the turnbuckle... so don't call the police.
 

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The banana incident, that should not be excused because that is not a part of professional sports. Talking shit is.

And elbow shots to the head were a part of hockey up until recently. Nothing changes until someone makes it change. Bananas, rats, octopi, elbows, fighting, prejudice, threats to Datsyuk about how he's going to "get it"... it's all going to change sometime, Jeff.
 

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If any of you are truly expecting a penalty or fine out of either player... No wonder this league is going to shit. This is hockey, we talk shit on the ice. Intensity makes you say shit. You really think Avery is going to kill Giroux? I think we all know what he means. Use your fucking heads. And as far as racial slurs and the use of the word faggot, grow a pair of fucking balls. I am the least bit offended when a black person calls me a cracker. I expect them to feel the same way when the tables are turned.

The banana incident, that should not be excused because that is not a part of professional sports. Talking shit is.

good one JS.. only reason i say a fine should be applied to both is because it was caught on camera.. part of the game yes, but its not something that hockey should be advocating.. i'm sure they like that its there because the intensity of hockey is what draws fans in.. but, in today's society, with these players looked at as being role models, they need to be scolded when they do something that isn't right..

i dont think its awful and i do talking shit is part of the game.. but i also didnt (still dont) think leaving my room a mess when i was a kid was a big deal, but i still got punished for it
 

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Thank god for the bruiser leagues around here then... I enjoy the sport, but they keep taking the edge out of the NHL, shits gonna get lame. In the FHL, you got players throwing water up into the crowd, talking shit, fights almost breaking out between fans and players, bench clearing brawls. Its pretty awesome.
 

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No, you guys are turning hate speech into hockey, as if prejudicial comments about race and sexual orientation are okay just so long as they're made over frozen water.

Thats right you can say whatever you want on the ice and if the player doesnt like it drop the gloves and do something about it. If things went your way they would be wearing dresses or would that offend women.
 

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I am not overly sensitive, so I am completely fine with racial slurs... I know gay people who tell other straight people to stop being so gay. These are people who are not attention whores. To each their own. Grow a sack.
 

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I am not overly sensitive, so I am completely fine with racial slurs... I know gay people who tell other straight people to stop being so gay. These are people who are not attention whores. To each their own. Grow a sack.

LMBO!!!!!! +1000000 for this post
 

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Thank god for the bruiser leagues around here then... I enjoy the sport, but they keep taking the edge out of the NHL, shits gonna get lame. In the FHL, you got players throwing water up into the crowd, talking shit, fights almost breaking out between fans and players, bench clearing brawls. Its pretty awesome.

Honestly, that's my style of hockey too, man. I've said some pretty nasty things about people's sisters out there, and I've had some pretty nasty things said about my sister too. A few months ago, my left-winger started fighting my right-winger while one of their girlfriends started shouting at them from the crowd! :rofl:

The professional athlete has changed though. Sports icons are like any other high profile figure now. When you're given that much money and influence, you have a responsibility to act up to a certain standard. If a bunch of working class guys want to hit the rink and talk trash with no-holds barred, I'll be the first guy to grab my stick and throw the net on top of the car, but NHL has to be bigger than the niche, rough-and-tumble game.
 

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Honestly, that's my style of hockey too, man. I've said some pretty nasty things about people's sisters out there, and I've had some pretty nasty things said about my sister too. A few months ago, my left-winger started fighting my right-winger while one of their girlfriends started shouting at them from the crowd! :rofl:

The professional athlete has changed though. Sports icons are like any other high profile figure now. When you're given that much money and influence, you have a responsibility to act up to a certain standard. If a bunch of working class guys want to hit the rink and talk trash with no-holds barred, I'll be the first guy to grab my stick and throw the net on top of the car, but NHL has to be bigger than the niche, rough-and-tumble game.

I get what you are saying, but the majority of the fanbase... and the poeple whom are actually paying the crazy prices want to see that side of the game. Why are all leagues catering to fans as if we are all children nowadays. The NFL and NBA are so fucking lame now its not even funny.
 

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I think you're just being an asshole to me at this point, dude.

How could i not your just playing a gay card here when it;s not needed let the players play and talk shit and if they dont like what they hear drop the gloves it's pretty simple and your not understanding thats how hockey is played. so if your getting sarcastic answers at this point your correct in assuming that.
 

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I am not overly sensitive, so I am completely fine with racial slurs... I know gay people who tell other straight people to stop being so gay. These are people who are not attention whores. To each their own. Grow a sack.

wheres Wingedwheel ? ... theres a Misha joke being lobbed up in the air for him to hit out of the park
 

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I forgot the god damn "c" when spelling that name, you fuckers dont forget anything. :L

Mischa, not Misha... It's a sexy name that unfortunately is used for both genders in Russia.

mischa-barton-bio.jpg
 

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How could i not your just playing a gay card here when it;s not needed let the players play and talk shit and if they dont like what they hear drop the gloves it's pretty simple and your not understanding thats how hockey is played. so if your getting sarcastic answers at this point your correct in assuming that.

Easy, don't be a dick. I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but you're going about it in a disrespectful way. Q hasn't said anything derogatory to you (and has put together a pretty good case in a civilized manner), yet you feel the need to insult to get your point across. That's not cool.
 
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Anyone else think that this conversation has gotten out of hand?
 

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I get what you are saying, but the majority of the fanbase... and the poeple whom are actually paying the crazy prices want to see that side of the game. Why are all leagues catering to fans as if we are all children nowadays. The NFL and NBA are so fucking lame now its not even funny.

Because children make up too large a percentage of the fanbase. They may not be the paying customer, but no one idolizes professional athletes as much as children, and while I do not agree that there is a strong correlation between violence on television and dangerous adolescent behavior, any time a product becomes so widely viewed by the country, it gets put under the microscope. Not to be too cynical, but between the pressure from sponsors the desire to break into the mainstream, the NHL wants to become just like the NFL and NBA, because their lameness gets ratings because they're more marketable to casual family sports fans.

In the grand scheme of things, prejudicial trash talk is one of the lesser identifiable traits of hockey that is going to get phased out in the NHL's attempt to be less controversial and subsequently make more money.
 

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Easy, don't be a dick. I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but you're going about it in a disrespectful way. Q hasn't said anything derogatory to you (and has put together a pretty good case in a civilized manner), yet you feel the need to do so to get your point across. That's not cool.

Seems most people on here are echoeing my point which i have presented in a civilized manner for a couple of hours now and now im on to the sarcastic approach to make my point clear since he is not getting it. plus if it's not cool with you that is definately none of my concern.
 

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Because children make up too large a percentage of the fanbase. They may not be the paying customer, but no one idolizes professional athletes as much as children, and while I do not agree that there is a strong correlation between violence on television and dangerous adolescent behavior, any time a product becomes so widely viewed by the country, it gets put under the microscope. Not to be too cynical, but between the pressure from sponsors the desire to break into the mainstream, the NHL wants to become just like the NFL and NBA, because their lameness gets ratings because they're more marketable to casual family sports fans.

In the grand scheme of things, prejudicial trash talk is one of the lesser identifiable traits of hockey that is going to get phased out in the NHL's attempt to be less controversial and subsequently make more money.

Just too much shit going down at once... This is like taking sex and erasing the orgasm.
 
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