Let the Off Season Begin

[Stokes1931]

Doggies have lost Seager and Scherzer so far. We have lost Posey and Gausman.

Neither team has added any big names yet.

Both teams, to date, are worse than they were at the end of the season.

Giants now down to an expected 103 wins.

 

[LHG]

Doggies have lost Seager and Scherzer so far. We have lost Posey and Gausman.

Neither team has added any big names yet.

Both teams, to date, are worse than they were at the end of the season.

 

[LHG]

Some surprising nontenders from other teams worth considering:

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[calsnowskier]

Cobb is official. 2 years with team option for ‘24. 9/9/10 with a 2m buy out on the option.

 

[LHG]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the off season has just stopped. At least, to my understanding, minor league deals can still be signed, so we may get some trickles of baseball news here and there.

 

[tzill]

Its three months before pitchers and catchers report. I don't expect anything to happen soon.

 

[LHG]

Its three months before pitchers and catchers report. I don't expect anything to happen soon.

Two years after a disruption to the start of the baseball season we may well see another disruption to the start of the baseball season.

 

[calsnowskier]

Giants signed 2 minor leaguers today…

Jon Duplantier…

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While teams can sign players to minor league contracts, they cannot offer ST invites at this time. However, it is expected that Duplantier will receive an invite.

Gray Fenter…

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He seems to be a true minor leaguer.

 

[LHG]

Giants signed 2 minor leaguers today…

Jon Duplantier…

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While teams can sign players to minor league contracts, they cannot offer ST invites at this time. However, it is expected that Duplantier will receive an invite.

Gray Fenter…

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He seems to be a true minor leaguer.

Duplantier hasn't looked good at the AAA or MLB levels. I expect him to be a reliever at Sacramento to start 2022.

I have no idea why Fenter was even signed. He hasn't shown anything above the low A level and would have been the worst starter at Richmond. He'll probably start the season in the rotation (maybe bullpen) at Sacramento.

 

[calsnowskier]

Duplantier hasn't looked good at the AAA or MLB levels. I expect him to be a reliever at Sacramento to start 2022.

I have no idea why Fenter was even signed. He hasn't shown anything above the low A level and would have been the worst starter at Richmond. He'll probably start the season in the rotation (maybe bullpen) at Sacramento.

You always need depth.

Duplantier has pedigree, and FZ loves him his rough gems he can polish up all nice like.

 

[LHG]

Another minor league signing:

Giants Sign Mauricio Llovera To Minor League Deal

The Giants have signed reliever Mauricio Llovera to a minor league contract, according to his transactions log at MLB.com. The right-hander …

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[MarcoPolo]

Sure seems longer than 14yrs... hardly remember the GIants b4 Panda

I do. Pedro Feliz.

 

[calsnowskier]

I do. Pedro Feliz.

You do Pedro Felix? I hope the two of you are happy.

 

[LHG]

Giants To Sign Alex Blandino To Minor League Deal

The Giants are signing infielder Alex Blandino to a minor league contract with an invitation to big league Spring Training, reports …

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[tzill]

Another one of those "they must see something they can work with" signings.

Hope it works out, but no risk if it doesn't.

 

[calsnowskier]

I don’t understand how they can give a ST invite. When they signed Duplantier, the news story said that teams could not extend invites while the lockout is in effect.

 

[LHG]

I don’t understand how they can give a ST invite. When they signed Duplantier, the news story said that teams could not extend invites while the lockout is in effect.

Good question. Either MLBTR was guessing on that one or the press release made an oops.

 

[LHG]

Why the Giants Are Unlikely to Re-Sign Kris Bryant

The Giants aren't likely to sign a free agent for $100 million-plus. A Kris Bryant reunion seems doubtful. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors.

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[calsnowskier]

Why the Giants Are Unlikely to Re-Sign Kris Bryant

The Giants aren't likely to sign a free agent for $100 million-plus. A Kris Bryant reunion seems doubtful. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors.

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When you look at the remaining crop of FAs, I don’t argue against the strategy. But when you look at the stance as a whole, it is a bit worrisome.

But I think FZ is right and my ‘worrisome” gut is wrong. By not locking in on a Gausman or a Bryant, the Giants will be better positioned to make a Will Wilson-type trade instead (even though the result of that trade is still pending), or to take some IFA flyers (Suzuki, anyone?).

All that said, the Giants are NOT a small market organization. And coming off a 107-win season, where pitching ended up being a real issue, doesn’t it make sense to try to keep Gas or go after a guy like Stroman (assuming the Giants didn’t legit try to sign him)? The argument can be made that the Giants can afford an additional 60-70m in ‘22. That is a lot of scratch. The Giants currently sit on a 2022 salary # of approx 107m. That is good for 14th in the MLB (and approx 7m below average).

 

[LHG]

When you look at the remaining crop of FAs, I don’t argue against the strategy. But when you look at the stance as a whole, it is a bit worrisome.

But I think FZ is right and my ‘worrisome” gut is wrong. By not locking in on a Gausman or a Bryant, the Giants will be better positioned to make a Will Wilson-type trade instead (even though the result of that trade is still pending), or to take some IFA flyers (Suzuki, anyone?).

All that said, the Giants are NOT a small market organization. And coming off a 107-win season, where pitching ended up being a real issue, doesn’t it make sense to try to keep Gas or go after a guy like Stroman (assuming the Giants didn’t legit try to sign him)? The argument can be made that the Giants can afford an additional 60-70m in ‘22. That is a lot of scratch. The Giants currently sit on a 2022 salary # of approx 107m. That is good for 14th in the MLB (and approx 7m below average).

I would mostly agree. Don't spend money just to spend it. Only splurge if the value is there. Maybe they saw red flags on committing money to someone like Gausman or Stroman (or, more likely, the years associated with the cost). Or maybe this is just a stance that came as a result of all the top shelf pitchers flying off the shelf. Who knows. And we don't know how serious they were in looking at some of those guys.
As for Will Wilson, 2021 wasn't a good year for him. Granted, he spent half the minor league season in the former known as Eastern League, where bats go to die (after he had a good 50 game look at Eugene). But he still looked worse than 19 other batters on that Richmond team, and the lack of production of 3 of them earned them a release from the organization. I assume he returns to Richmond to start 2022 and hope he does much better this time around.