Let the fun begin, CA Gov signs college athlete likeness pay bill

[wazzu31]

Democrats hate women's sports because they hate female athletes. In fact they flat out hate the female sex.

Democrats Denied Transgender Athletes Have Advantages In Women’s Sports. Science Says They’re Wrong

Well that’s already obvious but they haven’t had to argue it in front of the Supreme Court which is where this lawsuit will end up. Same thing will happen when the IOC allows their first chick with a dick to compete for a gold medal.

 

[BoiseMike19]

The NCAA is going to have to make a huge stand here. This will be impossible to manage with any degree of fairness if paying student athletes is allowed. Part of me says ya, let the kids sell shirts or generate income from a youtube site, but that is not going to be the problem here. It is going to be kids getting paid $250K by boosters to wash their car. This is going to be a bidding war for these kids. This will change the entire landscape of the game as we know it now. Hell with their endowments Harvard and Yale would soon be in the Natty conversation.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Just curious what people think is already happening with these kids. The AAU circuit is dirty as hell just for starters.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Make it against the law for benefits to be tied to recruiting. Yes there are end around to that but just an example

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

UC Santa Barbara

Go Gauchos!!!

 

[The Crimson King]

I bet Oklahoma State has a lot of money to spend right about now

 

[Innermind]

This is the dumbest fucking thing ever.

I'm a wealthy booster and I own multiple car dealerships. I find the top recruits and I sign them to a sponsorship deal worth 50k each plus a brand new car to do 1 commerical for me.

This ruins college football. Creates a bidding war for top players.

I'll be done with cfb then and it sucks. Just have to watch nfl. Bummed about it. Fuck you California. May the big one wreck your fucking state.

Things will be fine.

The law does not take effect til 2023. The reason for this is to allow the NCAA to change their rules... and they will change the rules because more states will follow California. I've read that Washington and Colorado lawmakers have already started the process.

To address your concern about recruit bidding wars: probably one of the new rules the NCAA will enact will be to allow players to make money off their own name & likeness and sign endorsement deals only after they are enrolled as students (with Olympic medal winners being the exception, as they are already allowed to earn endorsement money prior to college). Remember, 15 year old multiple Gold medal swimmer Katy Ledecky was earning money off her own name and likeness prior to accepting a scholarship as a Stanford swimmer.... she swam in both the 2012 & 2016 Olympics and was earning money off her name for 5 years prior to becoming a Stanford swimmer beginning with the 2016-17 school year.

Folks are panicking at this California law... no need to panic. Companies are tight with their money and will not be throwing it at high school kids or even Freshmen. Companies will only part with their $ for kids who are on the field/court as starters/have already proven themselves during their Freshman year. Proven Sophomores, Juniors, and Seniors will get the endorsement deals.

Most athletes most likely will not see a lot of money... only a handful of superstars will get the big national endorsement deals....the other athletes will probably only get minor local endorsement deals. Most likely the majority of the athletes will be earning money by finally being able to monetize their own social media accounts (YouTube, Instagram, Twitter). Athletes with a lot of followers on social media will make decent money from their sponsored accounts.... more followers = more clicks = more money.

Consider this: UCLA gymnast Katelyn Ohashi's YouTube perfect 10 floor exercise routine video received 60 million views on YouTube worldwide... yikes, that's A LOT... too bad she couldn't earn money off all those clicks.... but in the future, other athletes will be able to earn money off social media clicks. Of course football players will not receive that type/level of social media following because football is only popular in the USA whereas many Olympic sports are incredibly popular worldwide... the best a college football player would hope to get on YouTube would be several hundred thousand views, with perhaps one or two college football superstars possibly getting over a million views, but 60 million worldwide views like Katelyn Ohashi, no way.

I welcome and applaud this change... let capitalism thrive in a capitalist society.

 

[Innermind]

Make it against the law for benefits to be tied to recruiting. Yes there are end around to that but just an example

Yup... check my post immediately above this post... endorsement deals only after a kid is enrolled in college, with no agreements tied to recruiting allowed. Of course there will always be dirty/illegal booster deals done under the table like there has always been.

 

[gob]

“The monopoly in a billion dollar industry says they are amateurs.” Laughable.

Blame the NFL

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

The principals (college athletes) not getting a chance to profit off of nor to negotiate their compensation in a multi billion dollar industry is an asinine proposition.
It is laughable on its face. It would be sued to smoldering rubble in any other field. But because it’s the status quo, you fools argue in favor of it. Fucking asinine.

@PACZADA

Since the principals should be able negotiate compensation — are you saying the institutions should be able to bill the principals for using their brand to profit? Should the institution be able to bill the principal for using state of the art facilities and coaching?
Should the institution be able to bill principals for equipment and apparel? Should the institution be able to bill the principal for travel expenses? Should the institution be able to bill the principal for tutoring, nutritionists, strength/condition coaches?

 

[DeafOranguntan]

I think I read South Carolina proposed something similar. But, that might be because there’s a lot of Gamecock lawmakers that know the only teams in the state competing for championships are from Clemson

That's actually exactly what it is. There are two irrelevant Dem, Gamecock state senators from the Columbia area that have introduced it in the past and gotten shot down and now are raising it again. They're just trying to make a name for themselves.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Since the principals should be able negotiate compensation — are you saying the institutions should be able to bill the principals for using their brand to profit? Should the institution be able to bill the principal for using state of the art facilities and coaching?
Should the institution be able to bill principals for equipment and apparel? Should the institution be able to bill the principal for travel expenses? Should the institution be able to bill the principal for tutoring, nutritionists, strength/condition coaches?

Do NFL teams do this?

Regardless it seems apparent it's about allowing the kids to profit off their own likeness which costs the university nothing.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Since the principals should be able negotiate compensation — are you saying the institutions should be able to bill the principals for using their brand to profit? Should the institution be able to bill the principal for using state of the art facilities and coaching?
Should the institution be able to bill principals for equipment and apparel? Should the institution be able to bill the principal for travel expenses? Should the institution be able to bill the principal for tutoring, nutritionists, strength/condition coaches?

Of course they could do all those things .. but in an era of a transfer portal, why would a school want to?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Having read the initial tweet it's amazing how someone can read the bill and completely misinterpret/misrepresent what it states.

 

[thunderc]

CA can allow it all they want, they can’t stop the NCAA from punishing the schools.

 

[ElTexan]

Since the principals should be able negotiate compensation — are you saying the institutions should be able to bill the principals for using their brand to profit? Should the institution be able to bill the principal for using state of the art facilities and coaching?
Should the institution be able to bill principals for equipment and apparel? Should the institution be able to bill the principal for travel expenses? Should the institution be able to bill the principal for tutoring, nutritionists, strength/condition coaches?

It’s a negotiation. Like anything else. They can charge or provide from the profits: Just like your supervisor provides you with the shovel to move the piles of feces at your job.
You really can’t be so dumb as to think you made some intelligent retort there, can you?
@PACZADA

 

[TigerBait1971]

This would create some really interesting team dynamics.

The QB could be making bank, while the big uglies on the o-line are eating hot pockets.

Maybe the QB can take some of his bank and pay his o-line?

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

It’s a negotiation. Like anything else. They can charge or provide from the profits: Just like your supervisor provides you with the shovel to move the piles of feces at your job.
You really can’t be so dumb as to think you made some intelligent retort there, can you?
@PACZADA

Here is what you don’t get. Making money off their likeness means — a select few will make money.
Schools can literally say — here is your choice. A scholarship or you can pay for the services we provide, including school, coaching, room and board, etc.

If a school pays 10 million for a coaching staff — each kid who chooses against the scholarship can pay their part of the salary. 10 million divided by 85 scholarship players. Each player would be responsible for $117,000 a year for coaching. Then the away games, they can pay for their flight and hotel, food, transportation, etc. strength and conditioning coach will cost scholarship athletes about 10k a year at big schools.

The list is never ending. And the worst part of all of it. Schools can go back to 1 and done scholarships. You aren’t performing, your scholarship is pulled and you are off the team.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Here is what you don’t get. Making money off their likeness means — a select few will make money.
Schools can literally say — here is your choice. A scholarship or you can pay for the services we provide, including school, coaching, room and board, etc.

If a school pays 10 million for a coaching staff — each kid who chooses against the scholarship can pay their part of the salary. 10 million divided by 85 scholarship players. Each player would be responsible for $117,000 a year for coaching. Then the away games, they can pay for their flight and hotel, food, transportation, etc. strength and conditioning coach will cost scholarship athletes about 10k a year at big schools.

The list is never ending. And the worst part of all of it. Schools can go back to 1 and done scholarships. You aren’t performing, your scholarship is pulled and you are off the team.

You do realize the bill specifically states the schools aren't paying them right?

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

This would create some really interesting team dynamics.

The QB could be making bank, while the big uglies on the o-line are eating hot pockets.

Maybe the QB can take some of his bank and pay his o-line?

It would be an absolute disaster if they opened this up. Boosters would be buying recruits, schools would be recruiting boosters as much as they do athletes. Every top player will have imaginary jobs where they get paid to do nothing.

It would turn into who has the deepest pockets and whose alumni is willing to buy the most players.