Lebron not unanimous MVP

[wildturkey]

1 person voted for Melo. No one knows who just yet.

 

[bksballer89]

Ridiculous

 

[Hambombs]

Well MVP does mean most value to his team not best player

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

if you watched the ceremony, they said it was a NY writer when asking James how he felt about it.

if you didn't watch it live, make sure you watch a replay somewhere.

James gave an unscripted speech from his heart following a surprise video they showed him that featured his friends, family, and teammates.

Anyone who watches and listens to that and then wants to continue on with how self centered and arrogant James is, please report back here after you do and tell me how/why.

 

[MarkOU]

From the attitude of some people at SportsHoopla, Russel Westbrook is the real MVP.

 

[Black Adam]

From the attitude of some people at SportsHoopla, Russel Westbrook is the real MVP.

i WILL say him not being in the line-up is making a helluva difference...

 

[Smart]

If I were a voter, I would have given it to Durant. His shooting percentage was a little lower and he had less assists, but their stats were nearly identical otherwise (KD had the big edge in FT percentage). I also think he is more valuable to his team (ie they aren't as good) and doesn't get the benefit of the refs as much.

Plus, the MVP award shouldn't just go to the best player. It gets old really quickly that way, because unlike a lot of sports, the top basketball player remains relatively static. There have really only been five #1s since 1986:

(Jordan= 86-93, 96-98)
(Hakeem and/or Shaq= The two retirement years)
(Shaq= 1998-2003)
(Kobe= 2004-2007)
(Lebron= 2007-Present)

Where's the fun in just giving out the award to the same guy every year?

 

[piss-tons]

Too bad Duncan was better than Kobe and Shaq some of those seasons. Lebron deserved the unanimous vote, but Shaq got dicked by one voter, so you can't really complain. An MVP is an MVP.

 

[Smart]

Too bad Duncan was better than Kobe and Shaq some of those seasons. Lebron deserved the unanimous vote, but Shaq got dicked by one voter, so you can't really complain. An MVP is an MVP.

Duncan's best years went up against Shaq's best. His prime as actually better than Kobe's, but by the time Kobe reached #1, Duncan was already passed his prime. And Duncan at his best was never that close to prime Shaq.

I like Duncan a lot, but I think time has shown that Popovich has had a lot more to do with the Spurs success than he ever did. If you need proof, the second most wins the Spurs had under Popovich was the year Duncan averaged 13.5 PPG and was completely ineffective.

 

[Shanemansj13]

If I were a voter, I would have given it to Durant. His shooting percentage was a little lower and he had less assists, but their stats were nearly identical otherwise (KD had the big edge in FT percentage). I also think he is more valuable to his team (ie they aren't as good) and doesn't get the benefit of the refs as much.

Plus, the MVP award shouldn't just go to the best player. It gets old really quickly that way, because unlike a lot of sports, the top basketball player remains relatively static. There have really only been five #1s since 1986:

(Jordan= 86-93, 96-98)
(Hakeem and/or Shaq= The two retirement years)
(Shaq= 1998-2003)
(Kobe= 2004-2007)
(Lebron= 2007-Present)

Where's the fun in just giving out the award to the same guy every year?

Well if a player deserves it and is the most valuable player to their time, then they should get it.

They don't just give it to another player bc a plyer has won it so many times. Stupidest thing I have ever heard. It is obvious when a player gets every vote except one.

 

[TexasMan]

Harden didn't even make the Top 5? Fuck east coast bias.

 

[piss-tons]

Duncan's best years went up against Shaq's best. His prime as actually better than Kobe's, but by the time Kobe reached #1, Duncan was already passed his prime. And Duncan at his best was never that close to prime Shaq.

I like Duncan a lot, but I think time has shown that Popovich has had a lot more to do with the Spurs success than he ever did. If you need proof, the second most wins the Spurs had under Popovich was the year Duncan averaged 13.5 PPG and was completely ineffective.

1.) He wasn't ineffective at all.
2.) They didn't even win a championship that season.
3.) 2002-2003 was Duncan's best season ever. Neither Shaq nor Kobe has ever had a season as good as his. He single handedly brought his team the title without a legit #2 or all star #2.

 

[Smart]

1.) He wasn't ineffective at all.
2.) They didn't even win a championship that season.
3.) 2002-2003 was Duncan's best season ever. Neither Shaq nor Kobe has ever had a season as good as his. He single handedly brought his team the title without a legit #2 or all star #2.

I mean, you can't judge the MVP based on the postseason. When I am talking about the best player, I am talking about the regular season.

Shaq in 02-03: 27.5 PPG, 11.1 RPG, 57% FG, 62% FT (his highest), and 2.5 Blocks.
Duncan in 02-03: 23.3 PPG, 12.3 RPG, 51% FG, 71% FT, and 2.9 Blocks.

The numbers favor Shaq, and the only reason he didn't win the MVP Award was that he missed a lot of games. And that Spurs team was very deep with a ton of veterans who were proven winners. Outside of Danny Ferry, all eleven of those guys would have been top 7 players elsewhere.

 

[ckhokie]

Plus, the MVP award shouldn't just go to the best player.

Where's the fun in just giving out the award to the same guy every year?

uhhhh wut?? So you're in favor of dumbing down the award because a guy is 'too good?' The MVP is the MVP, no matter what. If you're best at your trade, you should be recognized for it. This is professional sports, not 7 year old rec league.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I would hate to see what an effective year is...geez

 

[Sman2011]

if you watched the ceremony, they said it was a NY writer when asking James how he felt about it.

if you didn't watch it live, make sure you watch a replay somewhere.

James gave an unscripted speech from his heart following a surprise video they showed him that featured his friends, family, and teammates.

Anyone who watches and listens to that and then wants to continue on with how self centered and arrogant James is, please report back here after you do and tell me how/why.

Turnuptheheat, why don't you just ask Lebron if you lick his ass..You're pathetic. The guy is a piece of shit human being. He gave one guy a 10 dollar tip who served his posse till 4 in the morning, on an 800 tab..

You can lick his ass all you want, but the guy is still a choker, on steroids.

Peace!1

 

[TexasMan]

It was Dan LeBetard (a Miami sports journalist) that voted for Melo.

Way to go all Skip Bayless, Dan.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

Well MVP does mean most value to his team not best player

Thank you! The award should be named the MOP. With all all the help Lebron has, he is not the most vaule player, he is the MOP.

 

[TexasMan]

Plus, the MVP award shouldn't just go to the best player.

Don't forget the orange slices.

 

[Flauge]

(Jordan= 86-93, 96-98)
(Hakeem and/or Shaq= The two retirement years)
(Shaq= 1998-2003)
(Kobe= 2004-2007)
(Lebron= 2007-Present)

Where's the fun in just giving out the award to the same guy every year?[/QUOTE]


Any list of best players from 86 that doesnt have Tim Duncan on it for a few years is bullshit.