Las Vegas Raiders

[wazzu31]

Wouldn't it be weird putting a NFL team in Las Vegas? Totally takes away home field advantage since opposing fans would outnumber LV Raiders fans 2 to 1.

 

[Manster7588]

Wouldn't it be weird putting a NFL team in Las Vegas? Totally takes away home field advantage since opposing fans would outnumber LV Raiders fans 2 to 1.

Raider fans are all over Vegas and others make weekly trips up from LA. Raiders are the ONE team that is movable and has a Vegas fan base.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

Wouldn't it be weird putting a NFL team in Las Vegas? Totally takes away home field advantage since opposing fans would outnumber LV Raiders fans 2 to 1.

Like he said, there are plenty of Raiders fans in Vegas. You have to remember, a lot of people that live in Vegas are from LA. Plus, Vegas is only about 4 hours from LA.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

More so, does mine.

Not in this decade

 

[Manster7588]

Not in this decade

Oh' so you're one who likes to chop up history

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Oh' so you're one who likes to chop up history

So you're one who likes to live in the past?

Maybe we can talk about the glory days with the Cowboys since you like to bring up things that are unrelated to the thread topic. Or, we can talk about the Cardinals NFL Championships back in the 50's since you don't like to chop up history.

 

[Manster7588]

So you're one who likes to live in the past?

Maybe we can talk about the glory days with the Cowboys since you like to bring up things that are unrelated to the thread topic. Or, we can talk about the Cardinals NFL Championships back in the 50's since you don't like to chop up history.

You mean your one in 1947?

 

[Scooby-Doo]

You mean your one in 1947?

Wow, you got me there. You are a Super historian. They actually won 2 championships 1925, 1947.

See that... I can use Google as well.

Back to topic?

 

[cdumler7]

Like he said, there are plenty of Raiders fans in Vegas. You have to remember, a lot of people that live in Vegas are from LA. Plus, Vegas is only about 4 hours from LA.

I do still think it opens it up more for opposing fans to want to come to the game. Vegas is one of the cheapest cities in the entire country to fly to for just a quick weekend get away. Heck flew their and back a few months ago for less than $100 round trip. Hotels are cheap as well so really if a fan is to fly to an away game Vegas would be one of the cheapest places they could go. Throw in then just the number of casual football fans that would just want to go to Vegas anyway beyond just the opposing team. So yes I could see that hurting the homefield advantage for the Raiders. Now given they have had trouble selling out their stadium as is so maybe it wouldn't be much different.

 

[Rockinkuwait]

I do still think it opens it up more for opposing fans to want to come to the game.

Maybe, it might end up like Miami divisional games when a huge chunk of the crowd is down from up north cheering on their own team in Miami. It's something to look at, but not something that the NFL doesn't already have.

 

[cdumler7]

Maybe, it might end up like Miami divisional games when a huge chunk of the crowd is down from up north cheering on their own team in Miami. It's something to look at, but not something that the NFL doesn't already have.

I can agree with this. The Chargers have this every year. We call that Mile High West because honestly Bronco fans come close to outnumbering the Chargers fans at the game in San Diego. It is a great place to take a vacation if you want to catch an away game. Of the 3 divisional foes right now at least that is the one place I would rather go if I am going to an away game. Vegas now will jump up for many on that list of a great place to go for a weekend get away and catch your favorite team possibly for cheap compared to any other away game.

 

[HammerDown]

 

[Guywithtoaster]

I believe that the Las Vegas stadium will definitely get the public money.

The one thing nobody has mentioned yet is that Casinos really want the NFL in town because it will bring people in during the slow time of year. Winter is generally a slower time for tourism in Vegas and the potential to fill the hotels/casinos for another 8 weekends during the fall/winter is huge for the LV tourism industry as a whole. If Vegas gets a team, they will definitely lobby the NFL for as many Monday night home games as possible as they hope tourists will extend their stay in town (Fri, Sat, Sun).

Also looking at the stakeholders in this stadium, its hard to see the public money not being made available considering that UNLV, politicians, the Raiders, and the casino owners all want this to happen.

The only big problem facing this stadium deal is that the NFL can't let Adelson be a part owner of this stadium. They're going to have to setup a stadium authority of some sort. I was just in Vegas for business for 6 days and this was the one obstacle that everyone mentioned. I work with people that will be doing consulting work for this stadium and they said this was the biggest obstacle. The NFL isn't going to lets its team play in a stadium partially owned by a casino magnate.

 

[CarlSr]

I'm not convinced the locals can/will support an NFL franchise. It's very much a transient city and I have serious doubts about them doing something like putting 50,000-60,000+ butts in seats every weekend. I think an NBA team makes more sense, but with that said, I'm not sure if they'd be willing to put 17,000+ butts in seats, in an air conditioned building, which would possibly be very close to the strip. The idea is fun, but I just don't think it would work, even if the NFL really wanted to make it happen.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I believe that the Las Vegas stadium will definitely get the public money.

The one thing nobody has mentioned yet is that Casinos really want the NFL in town because it will bring people in during the slow time of year. Winter is generally a slower time for tourism in Vegas and the potential to fill the hotels/casinos for another 8 weekends during the fall/winter is huge for the LV tourism industry as a whole. If Vegas gets a team, they will definitely lobby the NFL for as many Monday night home games as possible as they hope tourists will extend their stay in town (Fri, Sat, Sun).

Also looking at the stakeholders in this stadium, its hard to see the public money not being made available considering that UNLV, politicians, the Raiders, and the casino owners all want this to happen.

The only big problem facing this stadium deal is that the NFL can't let Adelson be a part owner of this stadium. They're going to have to setup a stadium authority of some sort. I was just in Vegas for business for 6 days and this was the one obstacle that everyone mentioned. I work with people that will be doing consulting work for this stadium and they said this was the biggest obstacle. The NFL isn't going to lets its team play in a stadium partially owned by a casino magnate.

Great angle on the MNF games. That could be huge for Vegas.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

I can agree with this. The Chargers have this every year. We call that Mile High West because honestly Bronco fans come close to outnumbering the Chargers fans at the game in San Diego. It is a great place to take a vacation if you want to catch an away game. Of the 3 divisional foes right now at least that is the one place I would rather go if I am going to an away game. Vegas now will jump up for many on that list of a great place to go for a weekend get away and catch your favorite team possibly for cheap compared to any other away game.

The Raiders and Steelers fans came close to outnumbering Chargers fans too.

 

[Rockinkuwait]

I'm not convinced the locals can/will support an NFL franchise. It's very much a transient city and I have serious doubts about them doing something like putting 50,000-60,000+ butts in seats every weekend. I think an NBA team makes more sense, but with that said, I'm not sure if they'd be willing to put 17,000+ butts in seats, in an air conditioned building, which would possibly be very close to the strip. The idea is fun, but I just don't think it would work, even if the NFL really wanted to make it happen.

But I don't think it needs that huge population. And it is a growing area.. unlike Oakland (in 1990, Oak had 160k more people than Vegas, now Vegas has 200k more people than Oak). And an hour flight from LA. When you look at a city that is able to sell more entertainment than it should based on it's population, I think Vegas is tops on that list. I'd want to see the studies to prove it out of course first, but if they can get those to back it up, heck yes.

 

[cdumler7]

But I don't think it needs that huge population. And it is a growing area.. unlike Oakland (in 1990, Oak had 160k more people than Vegas, now Vegas has 200k more people than Oak). And an hour flight from LA. When you look at a city that is able to sell more entertainment than it should based on it's population, I think Vegas is tops on that list. I'd want to see the studies to prove it out of course first, but if they can get those to back it up, heck yes.

Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if a ton of the season tickets that are sold are sold to corporations that are not even in Vegas that will give the tickets to clients. I do think they would get a lot of outside Vegas support. To me the selling tickets side of things is not really much of a concern. To me if I am a Raiders fan I am more worried about homefield advantage being slightly taken away as people view it more as an entertainment opportunity than that of a fan wanting to go cheer on their team.

 

[Rockinkuwait]

Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if a ton of the season tickets that are sold are sold to corporations that are not even in Vegas that will give the tickets to clients. I do think they would get a lot of outside Vegas support. To me the selling tickets side of things is not really much of a concern. To me if I am a Raiders fan I am more worried about homefield advantage being slightly taken away as people view it more as an entertainment opportunity than that of a fan wanting to go cheer on their team.

That's what I was thinking too. That corporate market would be huge you would think. Casino's buying them up like they do tickets to the best shows.

Homefield I get, but meh, like I said, Miami doesn't get that in their divisional games. And there's always working out an overseas deal too for 1-2 games a year elsewhere. Mexico City for example would be an opportunity.

 

[Eugene Baker III]

Vegas stadium plan for Raiders clears big hurdle

An 11-member oversight committee is recommending Nevada put $750 million in public money toward an NFL stadium for the Raiders in Las Vegas.

The approval Thursday from the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee is a major victory for the plan, which still needs approval from Nevada's governor and Legislature.

"We are excited and thanks to the committee," Raiders owner Mark Davis said in a text message to USA TODAY Sports.

Stadium proponents including the Las Vegas Sands want to raise the hotel tax for a venue that's estimated to cost $1.9 billion. They don't want to return any profits to the public because they say they'll make little or no money on the 65,000-seat stadium.

Proponents want state lawmakers to meet and approve the deal as soon as possible so they can pitch it to NFL owners. Three-quarters of owners must approve of any team relocation.

Owners are expected to meet in January.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

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