Series Thread: King-less Mariners invade Globe Life 6/3-6-5

[donaldson79]

Are you taking into account that we may sign Yu to a large cntract

And if we do, the payroll was gonna go up regardless.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

IMO it benefits us b/c we can field an improved team and the money spent is damn near the same, with or without Prince.

Yes, from a talent perspective, removing Prince and plugging in a more productive player helps the output on the field. But it does absolutely zero from a financial perspective. Rangers still have to pay Prince. There is no "money saved."

 

[Duane1952]

Profar 4, Desmond 8, Mazara 9, Beltre 5, Fielder DH, Rua 7, Moreland 7, Andrus 6, Wilson 2

Much better lineup.

At least they got Fielder out of the third spot.

 

[jta4437]

Of the 2 lineups below the second one is less costly and it includes Prince's contract. There should be no financial difficulties brought on by dumping Prince's contract.

2016 Lineup

C Chirinos/Holaday/Wilson 500k x 3 = 1.5 million
1B Moreland 5.7 million (7.2 million)
2B Odor 500k (7.7)
3B Beltre 16m (23.7)
SS Andrus 15m (38.7)
LF Choo 20m (58.7)
RF Mazara 500k (59.2)
CF Desmond 8m (67.2)
DH Prince 18m (85.2)


2017 Lineup

C Chirinos/Holaday/Wilson 1.5 million
1B Gallo 500k (2 million)
2B Profar 500k (2.5 million)
3B Beltre 18 million (20.5)
SS Andrus 15 million (35.5)
LF Rua 500k (36)
RF Mazara 500k (36.5)
CF Brinson/Cordell/DeShields 500k (37)
DH Odor 500k (37.5)
Prince's Contract 18m (55.5 million)

I get what you're both saying but point is they could spend less money on a more productive lineup and STILL eat Prince's contract overall

Assuming some potential raises add 5 million and it still comes to only 60 million spent on the lineup and that's including still having to pay Prince's salary in addition to the extra player taking his spot

 

[jta4437]

Are you taking into account that we may sign Yu to a large cntract

No because they are only discussing how much money is being spent on the lineup

 

[saddles]

yes but the Rangers are still paying his salary. So while the "on-field" cost may be reduced, that doesn't really benefit or even affect the Rangers actual payroll in any way. Spending less on the lineup doesn't absolve them of paying Prince. Salaries are guaranteed in MLB, unlike the NFL.

Even with paying his salary their overall expenditure goes down so there is no financial hardship.

 

[jta4437]

Even with paying his salary their overall expenditure goes down so there is no financial hardship.

I did the numbers, look at the quote section above I have your lineups posted with 2016 & 2017 salaries

It's a difference of about 20 million

 

[saddles]

I did the numbers, look at the quote section above I have your lineups posted with 2016 & 2017 salaries

It's a difference of about 20 million

Thank you for doing the math. That is a good sized savings overall which we could use for Darvish or somewhere else.

 

[Bmurph]

I get what you're both saying but point is they could spend less money on a more productive lineup and STILL eat Prince's contract overall

Assuming some potential raises add 5 million and it still comes to only 60 million spent on the lineup and that's including still having to pay Prince's salary in addition to the extra player taking his spot

Cut him now and let the youth movement begin


yeah this aint happening now for sure, but hopefully they will do something in the offseason

 

[jta4437]

Thank you for doing the math. That is a good sized savings overall which we could use for Darvish or somewhere else.

Didn't realize you left off Choo, but even with his salary would basically allow them to eat Fielder's contract and still field an OF of Mazara/Brinson & co./Choo and still have essentially the same money devoted to the lineup this year versus next

It would just require a leap of faith in Gallo & Brinson replacing Moreland (not so big actually) and Desmond ( much bigger leap)

 

[jta4437]

Didn't realize you left off Choo, but even with his salary would basically allow them to eat Fielder's contract and still field an OF of Mazara/Brinson & co./Choo and still have essentially the same money devoted to the lineup this year versus next

It would just require a leap of faith in Gallo & Brinson replacing Moreland (not so big actually) and Desmond ( much bigger leap)

But how sexy would a lineup containing Gallo, Brinson, Profar, Mazara and Odor be? From a youth movement perspective anyway...

 

[romeo212000]

Choo ain't going anywhere.

 

[jta4437]

Choo ain't going anywhere.

For now I agree, I just missed it in the original post

Another mistake was bad info on Cheerios contract, he's making 1.5 million this year not 500k

 

[cezero]

A comeback at 12-2? Cmon man..... It's locked down. Mariners come in here down one game.

lol

 

[WastinSomeTime]

I don't think pitchers "fear" Prince as much as people think. He's not a threat to walk.

He walks on average at least every 10 times he comes to the plate. I would love to see him have something like last year's overall numbers but it just is not happening.

 

[Nightcrawler]

lol

This is so annoying. Now I'm getting shit from Seattle fans.

 

[DT LUNA]

This is so annoying. Now I'm getting shit from Seattle fans.

Everybody loves the Crawler

 

[cezero]

This is so annoying. Now I'm getting shit from Seattle fans.

nobody thought they would come back. don't sweat it.

 

[Bmurph]

This is so annoying. Now I'm getting shit from Seattle fans.

What can I say you put yourself on a tee, everybody's gonna take swing my man

 

[Nightcrawler]

What can I say you put yourself on a tee, everybody's gonna take swing my man

12-2 though! Hell of a come back by Seattle. All I can really say. I hope Seager doesn't rake in Texas like he always does.