Kershaw should be the leading NL Cy Young candidate

[calsnowskier]

Its amazing that we have 3 NL pitchers that all deserve it... Unfortunately only one can win... I think it is greinke who has the best numbers... But i can see any defense for the other 2...

If one of them has another start before the post season and gets destroyed, I wonder how that will effect the race.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I am surprised that a dodger fan like villain is trying so hard to convince people that Kershaw is having a better season than Greinke... I just don't see it... All he has done is strike more batters out...

 

[navamind]

I am surprised that a dodger fan like villain is trying so hard to convince people that Kershaw is having a better season than Greinke... I just don't see it... All he has done is strike more batters out...

Something a pitcher actually has control over.

 

[Villain]

Its amazing that we have 3 NL pitchers that all deserve it... Unfortunately only one can win... I think it is greinke who has the best numbers... But i can see any defense for the other 2...

Which ones?

I am surprised that a dodger fan like villain is trying so hard to convince people that Kershaw is having a better season than Greinke... I just don't see it... All he has done is strike more batters out...

Are you serious?

 

[molsaniceman]

If one of them has another start before the post season and gets destroyed, I wonder how that will effect the race.

Greinke could pitch saturday and CK sunday on regular rest arrieta is due to pitch tomorrow

 

[calsnowskier]

Greinke could pitch saturday and CK sunday on regular rest arrieta is due to pitch tomorrow

Sorry, I wasnt very clear about my point.

Any starts these guys get from here on out will be just glorified BP sessions. Them getting blasted is certainly a possibility in that scenario.

 

[molsaniceman]

Sorry, I wasnt very clear about my point.

Any starts these guys get from here on out will be just glorified BP sessions. Them getting blasted is certainly a possibility in that scenario.

Arrietas start actually means something cubs still fighting for HF in WC but both greinke and CK could be skipped but facing padres why not for practice

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Arrietas start actually means something cubs still fighting for HF in WC but both greinke and CK could be skipped but facing padres why not for practice

Dodgers are tied with Mets at the moment, those games are for homefield as well.

 

[Voltaire26]

He saved my ass in Fantasy Baseball ... He's got my vote

 

[molsaniceman]

Dodgers are tied with Mets at the moment, those games are for homefield as well.

My bad but everyone on here says the mets have given up

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Which ones?


Are you serious?

Just picking on you because it is fun... But i do think Greinke is the clear CY, despite the fact the other 2 deserve it too...

I am working on a pitchers stat that i think i like a lot... I call it runs per game.

and the formula is (Runs(not earned runs)+4/27(297-IP))/33

i base it on that every pitcher should pitch 33 games, and the maximum amount of innings for 33 games is 297 innings...

the 4/27 is that there is 27 innings in a game, and i am giving a 4 run average per 27 innings...

Clearly, the more innings you pitch the better, as it should be...

I am including runs and not earned runs because the larger the differential is that actually is not a good thing...

Using this the top 5 NL RPG are

1. Greinke- 2.38
2. Arietta- 2.57
3. Kershaw- 2.79
4. John Lackey- 3.18
5. Jacob Degrom- 3.26

 

[calsnowskier]

Just picking on you because it is fun... But i do think Greinke is the clear CY, despite the fact the other 2 deserve it too...

I am working on a pitchers stat that i think i like a lot... I call it runs per game.

and the formula is (Runs(not earned runs)+4/27(297-IP))/33

i base it on that every pitcher should pitch 33 games, and the maximum amount of innings for 33 games is 297 innings...

the 4/27 is that there is 27 innings in a game, and i am giving a 4 run average per 27 innings...

Clearly, the more innings you pitch the better, as it should be...

I am including runs and not earned runs because the larger the differential is that actually is not a good thing...

Using this the top 5 NL RPG are

1. Greinke- 2.38
2. Arietta- 2.57
3. Kershaw- 2.79
4. John Lackey- 3.18
5. Jacob Degrom- 3.26

So this is a stat that is useless until the end of the year?

I entered in a pitcher who goes 7 IP and gives up 3 runs in his first game. his score is 0.091. I then assumed he threw the exact game 9 more times and his score was 0.909. After 30 games, his score is 2.727.

What this means is that while this is a stat where the lower the number, the better the score, your score gets higher the more you pitch. This does not make sense to me.

Also, what happens if the pitcher ends the season with 297 IP? Your stat breaks. While that is unlikely to happen in todays game, it is possible.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

So this is a stat that is useless until the end of the year?

I entered in a pitcher who goes 7 IP and gives up 3 runs in his first game. his score is 0.091. I then assumed he threw the exact game 9 more times and his score was 0.909. After 30 games, his score is 2.727.

What this means is that while this is a stat where the lower the number, the better the score, your score gets higher the more you pitch. This does not make sense to me.

Also, what happens if the pitcher ends the season with 297 IP? Your stat breaks. While that is unlikely to happen in todays game, it is possible.

So this is a stat that is useless until the end of the year?

I entered in a pitcher who goes 7 IP and gives up 3 runs in his first game. his score is 0.091. I then assumed he threw the exact game 9 more times and his score was 0.909. After 30 games, his score is 2.727.

What this means is that while this is a stat where the lower the number, the better the score, your score gets higher the more you pitch. This does not make sense to me.

Also, what happens if the pitcher ends the season with 297 IP? Your stat breaks. While that is unlikely to happen in todays game, it is possible.

First off, i meant 9 not 27... it should be
(Runs(not earned runs)+4/9(297-IP))/33

and i am not seeing the numbers get higher... Probably because the formula i used was different than the one i posted...

as to the pitcher who pitches more than 297 innings, it doesn't kill the formula... Those pitchers deserve the extra help in their score...

 

[MilkSpiller22]

and no it is not useless until the end of the season... just the scores should decrease as the season goes...

 

[OutlawImmortal]

My bad but everyone on here says the mets have given up

No problem but I don't believe in momentum going into the playoffs so I wouldn't say the Mets are done or have given up. I mean, the Giants got beat for the division last September and went on to win the whole damn thing in the playoffs. This whole idea of "limping" into the playoffs is a fallacy in my opinion.

Once the playoffs start, it's anybody's game.

 

[calsnowskier]

Nope. Still not getting the results you expect. Changing the 27 to 9 made very negligible changes to my final numbers...

(assuming a consistent 7 IP, 3 runs per game)
1 game = 0.091
10 games = 0.909
30 games = 2.727

The score is rising as the season goes on.

 

[calsnowskier]

I think I may have figured out the error...

You have to be careful with your algebra. I think this is what you intended to write...

((R + (4/9)) * 297-IP) / 33

 

[ElTexan]

Arrieta has 20 wins and plays in the historically toughest division for any year in baseball history.

Also, he has had the best 2nd half of a season in baseball history.

And he no hit a Division champ.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I think I may have figured out the error...

You have to be careful with your algebra. I think this is what you intended to write...

((R + (4/9)) * 297-IP) / 33

No it should look like

(R+ (4/9)*(297-IP))/33

or R/33 +(4/9)(297-IP)/33


and yes algebra is important, and i apologize for posting it wrongly, but in my excel sheet i have it correct...

 

[MilkSpiller22]

but thats just too much math for a baseball thread...

But i like this stat... Much better than ERA IMO...