Kaeps or Wilson

[tlance]

Wilson has 52 ptds in 32 starts.

Kaep has 31 ptds in 27 starts.

Last year Wilson threw TDs to 9 different players. Kaep threw TDs to 3.

Wilson reads the field far better. He's the better prospect to be a true volume passer.

I agree.

I think Wilson is the better passer, and therefor the safer bet for long term value. It is close though.

 

[The Foot]

Thanks Sonny and tlance now I have to rethink things, lol. I wish either one of these guys would pass more. I do like Wilson better as a passer but think Kaeps has a stronger arm and a better situation. Its gonna be a tough call.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

To me it could go either way. But right now I would lean towards RW. The only thing that worries me is this fact: Over the past couple seasons no team has run more often or thrown less often than the Seahawks. However, surprisingly that hasn't stopped RW from scoring decent numbers in fantasy points. The takeaway is that typically the first 2 NFL seasons represent a QB's fantasy-points floor. So if that tendency is true and he ranked #10 in FF over the last 2 seasons, then he has nowhere to go but up. I just think Kaep is too inconsistent to keep as a starter on a week to week basis, boom or bust basically. It could obviously change though.

 

[Xponentialchaos]

Kaep didn't have Crabtree for much of last year. The two clearly clicked when they were together the year before.

At this point in their careers, Russell Wilson is the better QB, but I don't trust his receivers. I believe that Kaepernick will be the better fantasy QB.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Kaepernick could be better this year. Last year he missed his favorite receiver last year, Crabtree, for most of the season. Even when Crabtree came back he was not 100%. Reports from camp are saying Crabtree has his burst back from the year before. The 49ers No. 1 receiver last year for most of the season was Boldin who really is a No. 2 at this stage of his career. The other starter was AJ Jenkins and Kyle Williams neither are close to being NFL starters. When Vernon Davis missed games, things got worse. Barring injuries, I think his numbers will improve this year with the WR acquisitions and a healthy Crabtree especially if the coaching staff is serious in their comments of opening the passing game up. Fantasy Football wise I have never drafted either Wilson or Kaepernick and there are quite a few other ones I will pick before I choose either one. Both Wilson and Kaepernick have risks this season.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Wilson = more athletic version of Montana

Nothing against Wlson, but as a Montana fan who watched almost every game he played as a 49er, the statement above is ridiculous

 

[wilwhite]

I'd take Wilson, absolutely. Wilson is ahead of Kaeps in both yards and TDs per attempt, and was throwing to Golden Tate and Doug Baldwin and Zach Miller while Kaeps was throwing to Crabs, Boldin and Vernon Davis. The worst of Kaep's top three receivers is a lot better than anybody Wilson was throwing to, and Wilson still outpassed him.

Kearse will emerge and Harvin will see the field more than last year. This year it's close.

But in the long term it's really about the QB himself. Kaeps plays more like Vick, while Wilson plays more like Steve Young (but has the wrong Rice). Both run a lot, but Kaeps seems happy to get into a cage fight, while Wilson just wants to move the ball.

 

[TREFF]

I guess my entire opinion is based on this:

Both are great, but the things that RW does better right now, seeing the field, making smart decisions, Kaeps can learn..RW can't learn the kind of crazy play making or the big time arm.

I just see my potential for something special in Kaeps than I do RW, even though either is a fine choice.

 

[tlance]

I guess my entire opinion is based on this:

Both are great, but the things that RW does better right now, seeing the field, making smart decisions, Kaeps can learn..RW can't learn the kind of crazy play making or the big time arm.

I just see my potential for something special in Kaeps than I do RW, even though either is a fine choice.

Maybe,

but IMO the most important asset for a QB is his mind and his ability to make decisions. Russel Wilson has that for sure. We don't know if Kaeps will develop that or not.

For the short term, I might lean towards Kaeps because of the weapons, but in the long term Wilson is more likely to be a top 3 QB because of his outstanding efficiency. As he continues to progress, you can bet that the Seahawks will allow him to make more plays.

 

[Pattersonca65]

I'd take Wilson, absolutely. Wilson is ahead of Kaeps in both yards and TDs per attempt, and was throwing to Golden Tate and Doug Baldwin and Zach Miller while Kaeps was throwing to Crabs, Boldin and Vernon Davis. The worst of Kaep's top three receivers is a lot better than anybody Wilson was throwing to, and Wilson still outpassed him.

Kearse will emerge and Harvin will see the field more than last year. This year it's close.

But in the long term it's really about the QB himself. Kaeps plays more like Vick, while Wilson plays more like Steve Young (but has the wrong Rice). Both run a lot, but Kaeps seems happy to get into a cage fight, while Wilson just wants to move the ball.

Your first quote is a bit misleading. Crabtree didn't come back until late in the season and was nowhere close to being 100% during the regular season when he did come back and Crabtree was the no. one guy. Davis did miss sometime also. Definately affected his FF numbers.

 

[wilwhite]

Boldin started 16 games, and Davis started 15 - both of those guys are much better than any Seahawks receiver (except Harvin). Leaving Crabtree aside, would you rather be throwing to Boldin, Davis and Kyle Williams or Tate, Miller and Doug Baldwin?

 

[Pattersonca65]

Boldin started 16 games, and Davis started 15 - both of those guys are much better than any Seahawks receiver (except Harvin). Leaving Crabtree aside, would you rather be throwing to Boldin, Davis and Kyle Williams or Tate, Miller and Doug Baldwin?

Davis is a great threat, but I would argue Boldin is not much better at this stage in his career and is not a true no. 1. And when opposite Boldin you have Kyle Williams or AJ Jenkins, you are not in good shape

 

[Pattersonca65]

But in the long term it's really about the QB himself. Kaeps plays more like Vick, while Wilson plays more like Steve Young

There are some similarities between Vick and Kaepernick, although Kaepernick has been better at avoiding some of the hits Vick does. I see very little in common between Steve Young and Wilson. Wilson is really good at scrambling behind the line to buy time and hit receivers downfield. That was never really a part of Young's game. Young was more like Kaepernick where once he put the ball down and started moving he was committed to running down the field. Early in Young's career he was alot more like Kaepernick. He was impatient in the pocket, failed to let plays develop downfleld, and quick to run and drove the coaching staff nuts. The difference between them is Young was always an accurate short to intermedate passer whereas Kaepernick is not. It was later in his career that he became a real good pocket passer and Joe Montana like in his abilities to read defenses and find receivers. Wilson is not nearly that good at reading defenses and playing from the pocket at this stage in his career as Young was in his prime.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Davis is a great threat, but I would argue Boldin is not much better at this stage in his career and is not a true no. 1. And when opposite Boldin you have Kyle Williams or AJ Jenkins, you are not in good shape

Boldin has never been a true #1. He is more of a possession WR, nothing more.

Davis...I don't care if he is labeled as a TE, he was still more of a WR threat than a blocking/flat-route type TE that Zack Miller is. True they didn't have a decent WR2 after Boldin while Crabs was hurt, but Vernon should have more than made up for that.

I'm with Wilwhite here... Boldin & Davis are a better combination than anything Seattle had to offer.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Boldin has never been a true #1. He is more of a possession WR, nothing more.

Davis...I don't care if he is labeled as a TE, he was still more of a WR threat than a blocking/flat-route type TE that Zack Miller is. True they didn't have a decent WR2 after Boldin while Crabs was hurt, but Vernon should have more than made up for that.

I'm with Wilwhite here... Boldin & Davis are a better combination than anything Seattle had to offer.

Fair enough. I watched all the 49er games. When Boldin was the number 1 and after having that monster day against Green Bay, he drew other team's best coverage and was neutralized pretty well. Davis did pretty good and the rest of the receivers were useless. Having a healthy preinjury Crabtree, if he can stay healthly, will make a big difference.

 

[Berkeley_Blues]

Kaepernick because he has far talent and athletic ability.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Fair enough. I watched all the 49er games. When Boldin was the number 1 and after having that monster day against Green Bay, he drew other team's best coverage and was neutralized pretty well. Davis did pretty good and the rest of the receivers were useless. Having a healthy preinjury Crabtree, if he can stay healthly, will make a big difference.

I agree. With Crabtree there will be no more excuses for Kaep. Time to show he's worth the absurd contract he signed.

 

[Pattersonca65]

I agree. With Crabtree there will be no more excuses for Kaep. Time to show he's worth the absurd contract he signed.

I dont think the contract is absurd, especially the way its structured. It will also look more reasonable if reports are true about the upcoming extensions are true