Kaepernick's Contract Guaranteed

[Pattersonca65]

Agree. This F.O. is full of crap.

I am willing to give Kelly a pass here but that is about it for me.

 

[Cut My Red I Bleed Gold]

Agree. This F.O. is full of crap.

I get your frustration, but, we hold onto him for that price...not too bad...what it also does is allow us to actually get some sort of trade value. We cut him...nothing...we try to trade him before...we might get worse than the Alex Smith trade. What we've done...is upped the anty (sp) for any team that is pretending they don't want him. I like the play, I also wouldn't mind seeing what Kelly can do with him. If it doesn't work...well then, we still have a commodity that some team might want for what is basically a year to year laden contract. It's 100 mil on paper...but it's below the tag price year to year with a delete clause unless his agent cleans it up.

 

[AU_Fever]

I get your frustration, but, we hold onto him for that price...not too bad...what it also does is allow us to actually get some sort of trade value. We cut him...nothing...we try to trade him before...we might get worse than the Alex Smith trade. What we've done...is upped the anty (sp) for any team that is pretending they don't want him. I like the play, I also wouldn't mind seeing what Kelly can do with him. If it doesn't work...well then, we still have a commodity that some team might want for what is basically a year to year laden contract. It's 100 mil on paper...but it's below the tag price year to year with a delete clause unless his agent cleans it up.

We are all frustrated to how a team could go from three NFC championships (one Super Bowl apperance) to one of the worst teams in two years. If Kap wants to stay (that's a big IF), then I hope Kelly can resurrect his career. I have a feeling that Kap has had it with the front office. I realize the F.O. is doing some sort of posturing in order to get better compensation for Kap should they choose to trade him. I think Kap will be traded before April 1st, unless teams are betting on the Niners to just release him and then other teams can sign him as a FA.

 

[Pattersonca65]

We are all frustrated to how a team could go from three NFC championships (one Super Bowl apperance) to one of the worst teams in two years. If Kap wants to stay (that's a big IF), then I hope Kelly can resurrect his career. I have a feeling that Kap has had it with the front office. I realize the F.O. is doing some sort of posturing in order to get better compensation for Kap should they choose to trade him. I think Kap will be traded before April 1st, unless teams are betting on the Niners to just release him and then other teams can sign him as a FA.

He might still be on the team after April 1st. The 49ers position isn't actually the worst for him. He might actually have a chance to compete for a starting position in SF. There are only a few teams where that might be a possibility; Denver, Rams, Cleveland, Houston. Denver would probably be the best option for him. But I don't think he would choose to go to a team where he would just ride the bench.

 

[Kinzu]

I doubt he can get a 4th for him. Teams might just wait for the Niners to release him.

They're not going to release him and I have no doubts on that. Kaep + Gabbert combined salary is still cheaper than some teams are paying their starter. We also have a ton of cap space to fill up. If anything they will keep Kaep, draft a QB and release Gabbert. Unless a team makes a really good offer Kaep will have no choice but to play at least 1 more year for us.

 

[Ricky Roma]

Besides the obvious freefall of Kaepernick's on-the-field career, you hear grumblings/rumours from the locker room about him not being 'respected' and the Aldon Smith/girlfriend situation. Whatever the truth is, I just see a guy who won't progress much more than the product he is now - and that's with any coaching staff - so I'm in the camp of either get anything you can for him or simply release him. I guess it's all gonna come down to see if he's physically ready by Apr. 1st.

Something stinks about how all of a sudden, Kaepernick's agents are requesting a trade immediately after Baalke/Kelly were welcoming back Kaepper.

 

[MHSL82]

Besides the obvious freefall of Kaepernick's on-the-field career, you hear grumblings/rumours from the locker room about him not being 'respected' and the Aldon Smith/girlfriend situation. Whatever the truth is, I just see a guy who won't progress much more than the product he is now - and that's with any coaching staff - so I'm in the camp of either get anything you can for him or simply release him. I guess it's all gonna come down to see if he's physically ready by Apr. 1st.

Something stinks about how all of a sudden, Kaepernick's agents are requesting a trade immediately after Baalke/Kelly were welcoming back Kaepper.

If he doesn't get traded before April 1st, would Kaepernick all of a sudden not pass the physical to get his guaranteed? And then up his demands (not sure if any good could come from that)? Or will he hoping he's released and healthy?

 

[MHSL82]

I get your frustration, but, we hold onto him for that price...not too bad...what it also does is allow us to actually get some sort of trade value. We cut him...nothing...we try to trade him before...we might get worse than the Alex Smith trade. What we've done...is upped the anty (sp) for any team that is pretending they don't want him. I like the play, I also wouldn't mind seeing what Kelly can do with him. If it doesn't work...well then, we still have a commodity that some team might want for what is basically a year to year laden contract. It's 100 mil on paper...but it's below the tag price year to year with a delete clause unless his agent cleans it up.

One reason we could get worse than the Smith trade is that some feel we got a lot of picks but not 2 second's worth of players. Then, add on the fact that we might not get two seconds for Kaepernick. Smith's deal was more guaranteed practically speaking (you don't trade two seconds to release in the next year) in terms of years, but 8 mill a piece versus one year at 12-14 for Kaepernick. You wouldn't trade two seconds for one year of Kaepernick either, so that number goes closer to 24-28.

 

[MHSL82]

Kaep wants a trade.

We don't want you, and you don't want us. Sounds good to me. See ya!

Yep. If Kaepernick wants out, even with Chip Kelly here, then I want him out for a good price. If he wants to be here, I wouldn't mind him staying so long as we at least look at QBs in the draft, if not select one.

Clayton is a Seahawk fan, so take it for what it's worth.

Clayton: Trade market for Colin Kaepernick will be limited

 

[deep9er]

Colin Kaepernick, Robert Griffin III don't have bright NFL future | The MMQB with Peter King

Agree with this writer.

On the surface it appeared Kaep fits Kelly's offense due to mobility, but there are things to do BEFORE getting mobile. If you have to state Kaep's mobility first, you've already lost the debate.

 

[darken65]

I wanted to start a new thread about this but didn't want the whole SportsHoopla posters weighing in on this. Kap to the Broncos would be a win-win deal IMO. Manning retires, Brock moves on and Denver needs a QB. Book the deal.

 

[elw4corps]

I wanted to start a new thread about this but didn't want the whole SportsHoopla posters weighing in on this. Kap to the Broncos would be a win-win deal IMO. Manning retires, Brock moves on and Denver needs a QB. Book the deal.

This really needs to happen. No point of trying to fix a demolished situation. Draft goff and start fresh.

 

[darken65]

This really needs to happen. No point of trying to fix a demolished situation. Draft goff and start fresh.

Agreed. No need for the Kap Experiment anymore if he can fit in better there. Denver has the D to cover.

 

[elw4corps]

Agreed. No need for the Kap Experiment anymore if he can fit in better there. Denver has the D to cover.

Exactly, Denver's defense will allow kaep to be terrible but that defense will keep them competitive while our defense can no longer carry his load

 

[HighTopFade]

This I'd like to see

NFL Rumors: Colin Kaepernick Leaving San Francisco 49ers For Los Angeles Rams

 

[MHSL82]

I don't want Kaepernick to be carried if he leaves here. I want him to either stay and do well, leave and earn it, or fail elsewhere (not really). But if he's carried and we get a bunch of "we should have kept him/I told you so's" AND we lose? Ugg. If he earns it and isn't carried, then such is life and we'd have to take it understanding that it wasn't likely here if he didn't want to be here.

 

[elw4corps]

This I'd like to see

NFL Rumors: Colin Kaepernick Leaving San Francisco 49ers For Los Angeles Rams

If that happened we would guarantee us at least third place in the division

 

[darken65]

I don't want Kaepernick to be carried if he leaves here. I want him to either stay and do well, leave and earn it, or fail elsewhere (not really). But if he's carried and we get a bunch of "we should have kept him/I told you so's" AND we lose? Ugg. If he earns it and isn't carried, then such is life and we'd have to take it understanding that it wasn't likely here if he didn't want to be here.

Good point really but the 9ers just need to move on from him IMO. Others might think he can fuction in this new offense. I say no way but again JMO.He would be a better fit in Denver

 

[elw4corps]

I don't want Kaepernick to be carried if he leaves here. I want him to either stay and do well, leave and earn it, or fail elsewhere (not really). But if he's carried and we get a bunch of "we should have kept him/I told you so's" AND we lose? Ugg. If he earns it and isn't carried, then such is life and we'd have to take it understanding that it wasn't likely here if he didn't want to be here.

Kaep's stats are going to speak for themselves. We may get some i told you so's or we should have kept him until he runs into a solid pass defense and just self destructs. I mean seeing what the raiders are building they may not even make the playoffs next year.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Denver would by far be the best situation for Kaepernick. They have a really good defense and a good HC that has coached QBs and he will have good support around him and a good chance to start.