Just a reminder to Ohio fans….

[WiggyRuss]

That's not really true though about the SEC. The top of the SEC is certainly challenging themselves more than the top of the B1G this season. Take a look at PSU and IU's OOC schedule. Also last year OSU played Marshall, Akron and Western Michigan OOC.

last year was a weird year because of the first big 10 conglomeration- year before it was ND for 2 years- home and away. They just about always havea one big non-big ten game on teh schedule.

 

[ericd7633]

last year was a weird year because of the first big 10 conglomeration- year before it was ND for 2 years- home and away. They just about always havea one big non-big ten game on teh schedule.

Yeah, I get they normally do. They didn't last year. Also, the SEC schedules OOC really well. Not sure why you think they don't?

 

[dtgold88]

Jeremiah Smith is prob gonna be the first non qb taken in the draft.

Caleb Downs might be the safety taken highest in the history of the draft. Sean Taylor and Eric Berry were both 5th overall. Downs may beat that. Depends on the QB class. Also- tbh i think - maybe im wrong- that Jeremiah still has 2 years to go....is that right?

Jeremiah Smith is the best receiving prospect since Calvin Johnson.

gotta figure out QB. They will get running backs and corners and wideouts.....

never made sense to me with DAy's game plan vs. Michigan- they had 2 of the best DT in the country, and we kept running Metcalf Up The Middle.

JS does have 2 years left. as good as Harrison was (and thought he was best I ever saw here) amazing we found one better year after he left. No doubt need to figure out QB and hopefully quickly for UT game.

One theory I have heard regarding UM gameplan was Howard had a hit to head and wasn't right. Not sure if true but as bad as he was playing it didn't scream pass more.

 

[dtgold88]

The ohio scandal absolutely helped them on the field. The buying of top players, the bags of cash, the cars, the drugs, the stolen school property, and playing 5 ineligible star players in 2010. Tressel knew about it, he covered it up because he needed his top 5 guys. Without those guys you would have had relatively the same record as you did in 2011. That is a significant affect on the outcome of the games.

These actions didn’t start in 2010, they are the same exact actions Tressel used at Youngstown, and he used every single year. We know he authorized these actions at ohio as early as 2002 as his signature was on the same memorabilia. We know since at least 2002 dozens and dozens of players received illegal contributions from boosters, and more was suspected. Every single player that received an illegal benefit is ineligible. You play an ineligible player for at least 1 snap you will have that game forfeited. Ohio was lucky they only lost the 2010 season.

According to the bylaws, 19.12.9 (g), the only acceptable situation to vacate wins is playing ineligible players. The legal stance of the NCAA over the past 20 years or so has been not to harm the student athletes for actions of staff and coaches. Everything Stallions needed was on game film, it’s shown on TV every weekend. The rules do not bar fans from recording anything, they do prevent athletic department staff from doing so. The rules state the CMU game is a violation. The rules say not cooperating is a violation. The rules have led to a 1 year Show Cause for Minter, and 2 for Clink. I don’t care if Connor and Jim get a life time ban. But giving tickets out to non employees is not a violation.

Zero games will be banned, zero games will be vacated. Doing so harms the innocent players that never cheated, and was never helped on the field. The only way to be helped is if you know the actual play, which Connor did not know. Even the ohio funded Netflix documentary admitted it. If the NCAA attempts to issue a ban, or vacate wins they open themselves up to a lawsuit by the players, and once again the players will win the lawsuit as the NCAA precedent does not allow it.

I'd like to read what you have to say but once someone goes completely off the deep end I stop reading. You did that really early here. Second sentence, in fact.

Be happy to read what you have to say but if you try again please don't start out by lying. Hell, save the lies until the end if you cannot help yourself.

 

[dtgold88]

They likely scheduled Texas before Oregon,USC, etc came over to join

might have but not sure why you think things will change. Other than maybe USC OSU always had been among the most aggressive schedulers in the country.

 

[dtgold88]

I remember hearing about a lot of that… but you pretty much laid it out as game, set, and match. My goodness.

Did his entire rant keep going like the 1st couple sentences where he just made up a narrative (lied)?

Hope he got creative.

 

[dtgold88]

That's not really true though about the SEC. The top of the SEC is certainly challenging themselves more than the top of the B1G this season. Take a look at PSU and IU's OOC schedule. Also last year OSU played Marshall, Akron and Western Michigan OOC.

I'd say top of SEC has definitely gotten better. But to be fair to OSU's schedule they had Washington on the OOC but had to cancel since they joined the BIG.

SEC will also schedule tougher now that TX and OK have joined as seems they challenge themselves often.

 

[blastfromthepast]

I'd like to read what you have to say but once someone goes completely off the deep end I stop reading. You did that really early here. Second sentence, in fact.

Be happy to read what you have to say but if you try again please don't start out by lying. Hell, save the lies until the end if you cannot help yourself.

I am not understanding the arguement from rjshull about punishment.

If innocent players should NOT be punished, then what was the appropriate punishment for Penn St? Some of those players were in diapers possibly when the tragedy occured. Should the NCAA never punish current teams/athletic departments for the transgressions of a former staff/players?

How does that serve as a deterent and curb any rule breaking if the current staff/athletic department simply throws their hands up and says "we weren't there"? In UMs case, the AD is still there and the HC was there as well. It would be a terrible look if the NCAA simply folds and provides a strongly worded letter to UM and threatens them if they do it again.

What annoys me is how UM downplays what happened and what was happening with Stallions. I know posters are tired of me saying this but this is very similar to the Astros scandal. The Astros owner even said that the illegal system "didnt affect" the game. That is a lie and he knew it.
UM fans claiming that the sign stealing was widespread and didn't impact games is a lie as well...they also know it.

The NCAA needs to make the right call here.