Just a reminder to Ohio fans….

[Mr. Friscus]

Why havent you posted these others sources?

Rutgers, Ohio State and Purdue allegedly shared Michigan signs in new twist

The news was the latest turn in the scandal involving Michigan and an alleged sign-stealing scheme that is believed to be one of the most intricate in college sports history.

nypost.com

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Oh no the season of mi cheating was one of my favorites ever. The "we do it right" team was even more dirty than those SEC teams that Harbs liked to call out. It was great. Such hypocrites. Such desperation.
Keep trying to justify their cheating. I love how far mi fans have fallen.

Fact: Michigan didn’t cheat to beat OSU in 2023 and 2024. You can make up an assumption they did the previous 2 years (although the games weren’t close and no sign magic would have mattered)

So… yeah, I’m not bothered by anything you are spinning. I’m quite comfortable. We beat you, you can’t seem to come to grips with it. I admit when I lose.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Jeremiah Smith is prob gonna be the first non qb taken in the draft.

Caleb Downs might be the safety taken highest in the history of the draft. Sean Taylor and Eric Berry were both 5th overall. Downs may beat that. Depends on the QB class. Also- tbh i think - maybe im wrong- that Jeremiah still has 2 years to go....is that right?

Jeremiah Smith is the best receiving prospect since Calvin Johnson.

gotta figure out QB. They will get running backs and corners and wideouts.....

never made sense to me with DAy's game plan vs. Michigan- they had 2 of the best DT in the country, and we kept running Metcalf Up The Middle.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Imagine having a Big Ten schedule- and then you go out and schedule teams like Texas. So rare nowadays. The SEC pussies rarely play anyone decent out of conference.

 

[rjshull]

some good points, but seems you think it warrants little punishment when an OSU tattoo scandal (that did not help OSU on the field)
led to vacated wins AND a year of probation. NCAA was so upset over what the kids did they let them play in the bowl game in which the win was vacated.

Now it's true the wins vacated not such a big deal and those in a title season means a lot more.....but that shouldn't matter.

If the punishment for what OSU did is under the guidelines so be it....but maybe that's the case for what UM did despite you trying to lessen it with the everyone does it defense (which isn't true)?

The ohio scandal absolutely helped them on the field. The buying of top players, the bags of cash, the cars, the drugs, the stolen school property, and playing 5 ineligible star players in 2010. Tressel knew about it, he covered it up because he needed his top 5 guys. Without those guys you would have had relatively the same record as you did in 2011. That is a significant affect on the outcome of the games.

These actions didn’t start in 2010, they are the same exact actions Tressel used at Youngstown, and he used every single year. We know he authorized these actions at ohio as early as 2002 as his signature was on the same memorabilia. We know since at least 2002 dozens and dozens of players received illegal contributions from boosters, and more was suspected. Every single player that received an illegal benefit is ineligible. You play an ineligible player for at least 1 snap you will have that game forfeited. Ohio was lucky they only lost the 2010 season.

According to the bylaws, 19.12.9 (g), the only acceptable situation to vacate wins is playing ineligible players. The legal stance of the NCAA over the past 20 years or so has been not to harm the student athletes for actions of staff and coaches. Everything Stallions needed was on game film, it’s shown on TV every weekend. The rules do not bar fans from recording anything, they do prevent athletic department staff from doing so. The rules state the CMU game is a violation. The rules say not cooperating is a violation. The rules have led to a 1 year Show Cause for Minter, and 2 for Clink. I don’t care if Connor and Jim get a life time ban. But giving tickets out to non employees is not a violation.

Zero games will be banned, zero games will be vacated. Doing so harms the innocent players that never cheated, and was never helped on the field. The only way to be helped is if you know the actual play, which Connor did not know. Even the ohio funded Netflix documentary admitted it. If the NCAA attempts to issue a ban, or vacate wins they open themselves up to a lawsuit by the players, and once again the players will win the lawsuit as the NCAA precedent does not allow it.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

never made sense to me with DAy's game plan vs. Michigan- they had 2 of the best DT in the country, and we kept running Metcalf Up The Middle.

I was shocked at that too, it was like Day wanted to prove he was Harbaugh running the ball down people’s throats or something. OSU opened that game up in the last minute of the 2nd half, Howard started slinging it, and OSU scored easily. I thought that was it, the second half was going to be a massacre. And yet, OSU kept beating themselves.. I loved it LOL

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Imagine having a Big Ten schedule- and then you go out and schedule teams like Texas. So rare nowadays. The SEC pussies rarely play anyone decent out of conference.

They likely scheduled Texas before Oregon,USC, etc came over to join

 

[Mr. Friscus]

The ohio scandal absolutely helped them on the field. The buying of top players, the bags of cash, the cars, the drugs, the stolen school property, and playing 5 ineligible star players in 2010. Tressel knew about it, he covered it up because he needed his top 5 guys. Without those guys you would have had relatively the same record as you did in 2011. That is a significant affect on the outcome of the games.

These actions didn’t start in 2010, they are the same exact actions Tressel used at Youngstown, and he used every single year. We know he authorized these actions at ohio as early as 2002 as his signature was on the same memorabilia. We know since at least 2002 dozens and dozens of players received illegal contributions from boosters, and more was suspected. Every single player that received an illegal benefit is ineligible. You play an ineligible player for at least 1 snap you will have that game forfeited. Ohio was lucky they only lost the 2010 season.

I remember hearing about a lot of that… but you pretty much laid it out as game, set, and match. My goodness.

 

[ellupo]

Rutgers, Ohio State and Purdue allegedly shared Michigan signs in new twist

The news was the latest turn in the scandal involving Michigan and an alleged sign-stealing scheme that is believed to be one of the most intricate in college sports history.

nypost.com

Did you even read? It has one "source" and that is little brother. Try again...

 

[ellupo]

Fact: Michigan didn’t cheat to beat OSU in 2023 and 2024. You can make up an assumption they did the previous 2 years (although the games weren’t close and no sign magic would have mattered)

So… yeah, I’m not bothered by anything you are spinning. I’m quite comfortable. We beat you, you can’t seem to come to grips with it. I admit when I lose.

Prove that statement. I can prove they cheated for at least 3 years, you know since they admitted to the cheating.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Did you even read? It has one "source" and that is little brother. Try again...

I actually did, I’m wondering if you did:

Tuesday’s revelations come a day after the Associated Press published a report quoting an unnamed former Big Ten football employee who said it was his job to steal Michigan’s signs and was “given details from multiple conference schools.”

The former staffer said that he had given the information to Michigan last week in order to help the program and head coach Jim Harbaugh, who the person felt was being unfairly held accountable for the actions of former Michigan football staffer Connor Stalions.

The Big Ten has passed along the information it received to the NCAA, according to Tuesday’s ESPN report.

This was a non-Michigan Big 10 team employee who admitted their school and other schools were stealing Michigan signals and had a network of spreading them to each other.. it appears Rutgers, Purdue, and OSU all were in it

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Prove that statement.

Easy, by merely looking at a teams vested interests.
1. With allegations out of illegal forms of scouting, OSU would have made sure to tighten their ship before they played the team supposedly doing it.
2. Meanwhile, Teams change signals throughout the year anyways, that’s something that really makes all of this look less and less consequential on game outcomes. It seems many passionate OSU advocates with big claims pretend signals are etched in stone once a year.

I can prove they cheated for at least 3 years,

Ha! Go ahead.

 

[ellupo]

I actually did, I’m wondering if you did:

Tuesday’s revelations come a day after the Associated Press published a report quoting an unnamed former Big Ten football employee who said it was his job to steal Michigan’s signs and was “given details from multiple conference schools.”

The former staffer said that he had given the information to Michigan last week in order to help the program and head coach Jim Harbaugh, who the person felt was being unfairly held accountable for the actions of former Michigan football staffer Connor Stalions.

The Big Ten has passed along the information it received to the NCAA, according to Tuesday’s ESPN report.

This was a non-Michigan Big 10 team employee who admitted their school and other schools were stealing Michigan signals and had a network of spreading them to each other.. it appears Rutgers, Purdue, and OSU all were in it

Right I see 1 source. Just 1. As you know stealing signs is not against the rules. So 1 person, of couse "unnamed" and it came from mi. So that 1 source is still mi. 1

 

[ellupo]

Easy, by merely looking at a teams vested interests.
1. With allegations out of illegal forms of scouting, OSU would have made sure to tighten their ship before they played the team supposedly doing it.
2. Meanwhile, Teams change signals throughout the year anyways, that’s something that really makes all of this look less and less consequential on game outcomes. It seems many passionate OSU advocates with big claims pretend signals are etched in stone once a year.

Ha! Go ahead.

You "proof" is feels not fact.

I already did with the mi reply to the NCAA. The admitted the cheating. Cheaters gonna cheat. Desperate.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Right I see 1 source. Just 1. As you know stealing signs is not against the rules. So 1 person, of couse "unnamed" and it came from mi. So that 1 source is still mi. 1

No, the unnamed was from a different team who confessed

 

[blastfromthepast]

Imagine having a Big Ten schedule- and then you go out and schedule teams like Texas. So rare nowadays. The SEC pussies rarely play anyone decent out of conference.

So why did Nebraska cancel the Tennessee series then? Food for thought...

 

[blastfromthepast]

Fact: Michigan didn’t cheat to beat OSU in 2023 and 2024. You can make up an assumption they did the previous 2 years (although the games weren’t close and no sign magic would have mattered)

So… yeah, I’m not bothered by anything you are spinning. I’m quite comfortable. We beat you, you can’t seem to come to grips with it. I admit when I lose.

So you admit you lost your debate with me.

Got it...thanks!

 

[blastfromthepast]

Dude was way too hyperbolic IMO.. connected point A to point F… constantly saying I said things I didn’t.. I can’t keep up with that lol. I’ll move on

That is all incorrect and you know it.

I said very plainly that:

Michigan broke the rules by utilizing in person advance scouting.
Connor Stallions was deployed to the CMU sideline in a disguise.

These are major violations and should be dealt with accordingly, including and not limited to, a vacated title.

You can't refute those statements so you exagerate my position.

 

[blastfromthepast]

Fact: Michigan didn’t cheat to beat OSU in 2023 and 2024. You can make up an assumption they did the previous 2 years (although the games weren’t close and no sign magic would have mattered)

So… yeah, I’m not bothered by anything you are spinning. I’m quite comfortable. We beat you, you can’t seem to come to grips with it. I admit when I lose.

You are honestly terrible at this message board thing. I am being completely honest here.

 

[ericd7633]

Imagine having a Big Ten schedule- and then you go out and schedule teams like Texas. So rare nowadays. The SEC pussies rarely play anyone decent out of conference.

That's not really true though about the SEC. The top of the SEC is certainly challenging themselves more than the top of the B1G this season. Take a look at PSU and IU's OOC schedule. Also last year OSU played Marshall, Akron and Western Michigan OOC.