Joe Mixon video might be made public

[fordman84]

Toddlers and young adults. Apples and oranges.

you said you physically and verbally assault someone and to expect the same in return. I guess you DO in fact put qualifiers on that statement when one person is substantially stronger than the other.

 

[KnightAndDay]

you said you physically and verbally assault someone and to expect the same in return. I guess you DO in fact put qualifiers on that statement when one person is substantially stronger than the other.

Again, apples and oranges.

A young adult is capable of considering the consequences and effects of their actions. A toddler cannot.

A young adult can be held accountable for such. A toddler cannot.

The phrase "fucking asinine" doesnt begin to describe the comparison you're trying to make.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

She had family in high places. That video wasn't sealed explicitly to protect Mixon. The DA punked out on this one. At the time leading up to the investigation, Mixon's attorney made a statement that they intended to ask that the DA press charges against her. This of course all coming on the heels of the Rice incident. Dollars to donuts Mixon was plea bargained down to avoid he and his attorney making a big stink about this. You want to know why Mixon didn't receive a heavier punishment? Besides it being his first offense, that's it right there.

I just read a report from a Tulsa paper who broke down the video. It said Mixon initiated the confrontation by calling a guy at the girl's table a homophobic slur. It also said, when the girl confronted Mixon, he faked as if he was going to hit her. I'm guessing this had a lot to do with the girl not being charged.
As far as the video being blocked. It wasn't one person or the other responsible for it. The judge did so, as it was a state law they didn't have enough to release it. It doesn't show an arrest on it, so it wasn't considered public record. They passed a law afterward to change that though.

 

[fordman84]

Again, apples and oranges.

A young adult is capable of considering the consequences and effects of their actions. A toddler cannot.

A young adult can be held accountable for such. A toddler cannot.

The phrase "fucking asinine" doesnt begin to describe the comparison you're trying to make.

No, what is fucking asinine is that you believe it is alright for a football player to punch a woman in the face and break multiple bones because she essentially slapped him.

 

[romeo212000]

you said you physically and verbally assault someone and to expect the same in return. I guess you DO in fact put qualifiers on that statement when one person is substantially stronger than the other.

Stop trying to troll. It's not remotely the same thing.

 

[romeo212000]

No, what is fucking asinine is that you believe it is alright for a football player to punch a woman in the face and break multiple bones because she essentially slapped him.

Nobody has said that. Try again. All that has been said is being female does not absolve her of her role in the altercation or her guilt.

 

[fordman84]

Nobody has said that. Try again.

KnightandDay said exactly that, sir.

 

[romeo212000]

I just read a report from a Tulsa paper who broke down the video. It said Mixon initiated the confrontation by calling a guy at the girl's table a homophobic slur. It also said, when the girl confronted Mixon, he faked as if he was going to hit her. I'm guessing this had a lot to do with the girl not being charged.
As far as the video being blocked. It wasn't one person or the other responsible for it. The judge did so, as it was a state law they didn't have enough to release it. It doesn't show an arrest on it, so it wasn't considered public record. They passed a law afterward to change that though.

Post the link. The report and accounts I have heard and read say the following:

She and her friends were already in the store when Mixon and his friends walked in. They sat down. Some words were exchanged. It is unclear who said what or what was said as there is no audio. Anything that was reported to have been said was done so through statements collected by the investigator. The girl got up and confronted Mixon. She supposed called him a ni**er and pushed him. He feigned like he wanted hit her but held back, and she slapped him. He then hit her with a closed fist.

Those are the facts of what was seen on the video. I have said from the start if this is indeed how it happened both parties are responsible and both parties deserved charges. She did in fact initiate physical assault on not one count, but two.

As for the law that was passed, it was not a law but a ruling by an appeals court and nothing has been decided as a certainty at this point is my understanding. I still think we may never see this tape and frankly I don't have a problem with that.

 

[KnightAndDay]

You're wrong again.

I said if you assault someone, expect some form of retaliation.

 

[romeo212000]

KnightandDay said exactly that, sir.

He did not say Mixon's actions were acceptable. He said they were understandable in response to the fact that the girl physically struck him first and she does not deserve be to absolved of her act of physical assault simply because she is a female and picked a fight she never should have.

He is not wrong. If you are an adult, and you decide to physically assault someone, you shouldn't be surprised when they decide to respond. It doesn't make it right, but it should be expected.

 

[fordman84]

You're wrong again.

I said if you assault someone, expect some form of retaliation.

BULL FUCKING SHIT

She is not a victim. Period. End of discussion.


I don't give a shit if she's a woman or not, or what either person's capable of.


You verbally and physically assault someone, expect it in return.

THAT is what you said. "I don't give a shit if she's a woman or not, OR WHAT EITHER PERSON IS CAPABLE OF. If you assault someone, expect it in return. So because this girl didn't even harm him, he breaks her face and you have stated you are fine with that.

Don't fucking lie if your words are right there for all to see. Fucking lowlife piece of shit.

 

[fordman84]

He did not say Mixon's actions were acceptable. He said they were understandable in response to the fact that the girl physically struck him first and she does not deserve be to absolved of her act of physical assault simply because she is a female and picked a fight she never should have.

She shouldn't be absolved, but he shouldn't break her god damned face because he can and she barely left a mark at worst on him.

 

[romeo212000]

She shouldn't be absolved, but he shouldn't break her god damned face because he can and she barely left a mark at worst on him.

Nobody is excusing Mixon's actions here. Why can you white knights not understand that? Seriously, I have had this conversation on her ten fucking times with ten fucking posters and every one of you thick headed bastards get hung up on this every god damned time. All we are saying is both parties deserved to be charged. She is not a "victim". They both committed crimes.

 

[romeo212000]

BULL FUCKING SHIT



THAT is what you said. "I don't give a shit if she's a woman or not, OR WHAT EITHER PERSON IS CAPABLE OF. If you assault someone, expect it in return. So because this girl didn't even harm him, he breaks her face and you have stated you are fine with that.

Don't fucking lie if your words are right there for all to see. Fucking lowlife piece of shit.

Dude, are you just trolling, or are you really this fucking dense?

HE DID NOT SAY IT WAS OKAY! HE SAID NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE, WHAT YOUR GENDER, OR WHAT YOUR STATURE, IF YOU HIT SOMEBODY YOU SHOULD EXPECT A RESPONSE. THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS ACCEPTABLE OR JUSTIFIED. ITS JUST THE FACT OF THE MATTER. IF YOU HIT SOMEONE, DONT BE SURPRISED WHEN YOU GET HIT BACK.

I can't make it any clearer.

 

[fordman84]

Nobody is excusing Mixon's actions here. Why can you white knights not understand that? Seriously, I have had this conversation on her ten fucking times with ten fucking posters and every one of you thick headed bastards get hung up on this every god damned time. All we are saying is both parties deserved to be harmed. She is not a "victim". They both committed crimes.

Where have I ever defended her actions? I don't care about her actions. She's an idiot for picking a fight she couldn't win.

But he should know better than to do what he did.

 

[fordman84]

Dude, are you just trolling, or are you really this fucking dense?

Not even trolling, 100% serious. You don't reply in kind with deadly force because someone laid a hand on you.

 

[romeo212000]

Where have I ever defended her actions? I don't care about her actions. She's an idiot for picking a fight she couldn't win.

But he should know better than to do what he did.

He reacted on reflex and made a very bad choice. The truth is there were multiple bad choices leading up to that moment. Multiple opportunities to extricate himself from a bad situation. Like I said though, how many here on their high horse can say they would absolutely act with the poise and self restraint they are wanting to lynch this kid for if they were 18 years old and had been drinking, and some mouthy drunk bitch calls you a ni**er and slaps the piss out of you? Not nearly as many of you as you'd like to believe. I pray both learned a valuable life lesson. The kid served his punishment. Let him move on.

 

[romeo212000]

Not even trolling, 100% serious. You don't reply in kind with deadly force because someone laid a hand on you.

You are completely ignoring what I am saying. Seriously, re-read my god damned posts.

 

[fordman84]

He reacted on reflex and made a very bad choice. The truth is there were multiple bad choices leading up to that moment. Multiple opportunities to extricate himself from a bad situation. Like I said though, how many here on their high horse can say they would absolutely act with the poise and self restraint they are wanting to lynch this kid for if they were 18 years old and had been drinking, and some mouthy drunk bitch calls you a ni**er and slaps the piss out of you? Not nearly as many of you as you'd like to believe. I pray both learned a valuable life lesson. The kid served his punishment. Let him move on.

The kid sat out a year of football after breaking the girls face. I'm not saying she was innocent, but he shouldn't be suiting up for your team after that.

 

[fordman84]

You are completely ignoring what I am saying. Seriously, re-read my god damned posts.

Honestly not gonna read 9 pages of your posts. My issue is with the dipshit that unequivocally says that it's ok to crush a womans face if she lays a hand on you.